Re: Xorg failed to run on old PC.
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:21:20 +0200
David Marec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi
Hi David,
[ originally sent to ports@ - this should really go in questions@, not really
to do with the ports systems. therefore,i've moved it.]
I am trying to configure an old cirix166-48Mo RAM workstation.
you mean 48 Mb ?
But, FreeBSD 6.2 installed, Xorg crashes on
« Caught signal 11»
segfault 11 is, if memory serves me well, usually caused by dodgy hardware.
(RAM / L1 cache usually)
I tried three drivers, mga, vesa and vga.
ok, from your Xorg log file, you have a
Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA 1064SG [Mystique]
card. mga 'should' be the right one, but i wonder whether it would try too hard
to get all the bells and whistles running, which may not be such a good idea in
an old machine.
The driver mga failed to load DRI module, which was not requested.
you can disable DRI in your xorg.conf by commenting out the
Load dri
I am not sure how to do it with a blank xorg.conf though. there should be some
parameter for xorgcfg (you are using it to generate a valid xorg file , right? )
The log file, created with no xorg.conf, can be uploaded here:
http://david.marec.free.fr/public/Xorg.0.log
It seems that i had the same problem when i tried to launch XUbuntu on it.
i imagine xubuntu is assuming newer hardware, and therefore more 'features'
enabled, which will definitely cause some problem for you.
The only linux distribution that works is Damn Small Linux.
for (the same reasons)^(-1) as above.
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Re: New IDE drive in old PC
On Thursday 29 December 2005 17:57, Chris Whitehouse wrote: I presume you mean GB for size. I just plugged a 250GB drive into a PIII 500 Supermicro board. The bios thinks it is 8GB. I get No Rom Basic if I try to boot. I also tried it as an external USB drive and fdisk'd and bsdlabelled it as 250GB without problem using FBSD6. I think if I could have booted there would have been no problem with the disk on the IDE chain as FBSD sees disks directly not through the BIOS (or so I understand). FWIW my file/print server is old too. CPU is an AMD K6/2-350. It boots from a 20GB drive and then FreeBSD sees the 160GB and 40GB drives. The BIOS sees the 40GB drive as 8GB and doesn't see the 160GB drive at all. I set all but the primary master BIOS drive settings to NONE. I also learned to my cost when experimenting with installing FreeBSD that setting the BIOS to NONE for an HDD which is actually plugged in doesn't stop FreeBSD from seeing it or formatting it when I slected the first drive as the one to slice up ;-) -- Dave ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New IDE drive in old PC
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 07:14, Robert Slade wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:12, Robert Ames wrote: I have an old (very old) ASUS P5 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.4. The boot disk is a 40MB Western Digital WD400 IDE drive jumpered to only use 32MB so it can be booted from since the BIOS in this PC (the latest and greatest) can't deal with anything larger than 32MB. This PC is working well for me and I don't want to upgrade it. However I would like to add a lot of disk space. So my question is, can I go out and buy a new 300 GB (or whatever) IDE disk and attach it to the secondary IDE controller and hope to use all 300 GB? I will still use the old disk for booting and to hold the OS. The new disk will be just for data. If this will just work how do I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed? Robert, If you had to jumper the boot disk for it to work with the BIOS of the motherboard, then the chances are that you would have to do the same with the 2nd hard drive. ISTR that ASUS produced updated BIOS' for most of their motherboards to get around this. Have a look at their website to see if there is and upgrade. There is also a area on the site for questions such as yours. I would have thought the main issue is support for 48-bit LBA. The limit for 32-bit LBA is 137GB (128 GiB). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New IDE drive in old PC
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:12, Robert Ames wrote: I have an old (very old) ASUS P5 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.4. The boot disk is a 40MB Western Digital WD400 IDE drive jumpered to only use 32MB so it can be booted from since the BIOS in this PC (the latest and greatest) can't deal with anything larger than 32MB. This PC is working well for me and I don't want to upgrade it. However I would like to add a lot of disk space. So my question is, can I go out and buy a new 300 GB (or whatever) IDE disk and attach it to the secondary IDE controller and hope to use all 300 GB? I will still use the old disk for booting and to hold the OS. The new disk will be just for data. If this will just work how do I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed? I presume you mean GB for size. I just plugged a 250GB drive into a PIII 500 Supermicro board. The bios thinks it is 8GB. I get No Rom Basic if I try to boot. I also tried it as an external USB drive and fdisk'd and bsdlabelled it as 250GB without problem using FBSD6. I think if I could have booted there would have been no problem with the disk on the IDE chain as FBSD sees disks directly not through the BIOS (or so I understand). I can test on a P5AB if you want but it will take a day or two. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New IDE drive in old PC
Chris Whitehouse wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:12, Robert Ames wrote: [ ... ] The new disk will be just for data. If this will just work how do I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed? I presume you mean GB for size. I just plugged a 250GB drive into a PIII 500 Supermicro board. The bios thinks it is 8GB. I get No Rom Basic if I try to boot. I also tried it as an external USB drive and fdisk'd and bsdlabelled it as 250GB without problem using FBSD6. [ ... ] FreeBSD will use LBA addressing modes, even if your BIOS does not support it. However, to access a drive above 137GB, your hardware needs to support 48-bit LBA. However, you can get a PCI ATA controller to do the job which is cheap and convenient, or simply update your MB to something newer... -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New IDE drive in old PC
On Behalf Of RW Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:18 AM On Wednesday 28 December 2005 07:14, Robert Slade wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:12, Robert Ames wrote: I have an old (very old) ASUS P5 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.4. The boot disk is a 40MB Western Digital WD400 IDE drive jumpered to only use 32MB so it can be booted from since the BIOS in this PC (the latest and greatest) can't deal with anything larger than 32MB. This PC is working well for me and I don't want to upgrade it. However I would like to add a lot of disk space. So my question is, can I go out and buy a new 300 GB (or whatever) IDE disk and attach it to the secondary IDE controller and hope to use all 300 GB? I will still use the old disk for booting and to hold the OS. The new disk will be just for data. If this will just work how do I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed? Robert, If you had to jumper the boot disk for it to work with the BIOS of the motherboard, then the chances are that you would have to do the same with the 2nd hard drive. ISTR that ASUS produced updated BIOS' for most of their motherboards to get around this. Have a look at their website to see if there is and upgrade. There is also a area on the site for questions such as yours. I would have thought the main issue is support for 48-bit LBA. The limit for 32-bit LBA is 137GB (128 GiB). Since the OP wants more disk space and somehow can't upgrade this old BIOS (the preferred option), separate the issue into two: 1. How to boot 2. How to access the large disk. I haven't tried it, but if you installed the large drive as a second disk, then you could boot off the older (jumpered even) hard drive. Even if the BIOS doesn't see the second hard drive, it probably won't go belly up. I would think FreeBSD would then see the second drive when it booted and handle it correctly (since FreeBSD doesn't use the BIOS for access.) Map the second drive as /data and enjoy. I recommend putting the old drive as primary (master) on the first IDE channel and putting the new drive as slave or as master on the second IDE channel. I don't think trying this risks data on your old drive, but back it up anyway! Good luck, -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New IDE drive in old PC
On Behalf Of Gayn Winters Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:04 AM On Behalf Of RW Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:18 AM On Wednesday 28 December 2005 07:14, Robert Slade wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:12, Robert Ames wrote: I have an old (very old) ASUS P5 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.4. The boot disk is a 40MB Western Digital WD400 IDE drive jumpered to only use 32MB so it can be booted from since the BIOS in this PC (the latest and greatest) can't deal with anything larger than 32MB. This PC is working well for me and I don't want to upgrade it. However I would like to add a lot of disk space. So my question is, can I go out and buy a new 300 GB (or whatever) IDE disk and attach it to the secondary IDE controller and hope to use all 300 GB? I will still use the old disk for booting and to hold the OS. The new disk will be just for data. If this will just work how do I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed? Robert, If you had to jumper the boot disk for it to work with the BIOS of the motherboard, then the chances are that you would have to do the same with the 2nd hard drive. ISTR that ASUS produced updated BIOS' for most of their motherboards to get around this. Have a look at their website to see if there is and upgrade. There is also a area on the site for questions such as yours. I would have thought the main issue is support for 48-bit LBA. The limit for 32-bit LBA is 137GB (128 GiB). Since the OP wants more disk space and somehow can't upgrade this old BIOS (the preferred option), separate the issue into two: 1. How to boot 2. How to access the large disk. I haven't tried it, but if you installed the large drive as a second disk, then you could boot off the older (jumpered even) hard drive. Even if the BIOS doesn't see the second hard drive, it probably won't go belly up. I would think FreeBSD would then see the second drive when it booted and handle it correctly (since FreeBSD doesn't use the BIOS for access.) Map the second drive as /data and enjoy. I recommend putting the old drive as primary (master) on the first IDE channel and putting the new drive as slave or as master on the second IDE channel. I don't think trying this risks data on your old drive, but back it up anyway! Chuck Swinger's caveat will apply to the above: FreeBSD will use LBA addressing modes, even if your BIOS does not support it. However, to access a drive above 137GB, your hardware needs to support 48-bit LBA. However, you can get a PCI ATA controller to do the job which is cheap and convenient, or simply update your MB to something newer... -- -Chuck -gayn Bristol Systems Inc. 714/532-6776 www.bristolsystems.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New IDE drive in old PC
I have an old (very old) ASUS P5 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.4. The boot disk is a 40MB Western Digital WD400 IDE drive jumpered to only use 32MB so it can be booted from since the BIOS in this PC (the latest and greatest) can't deal with anything larger than 32MB. This PC is working well for me and I don't want to upgrade it. However I would like to add a lot of disk space. So my question is, can I go out and buy a new 300 GB (or whatever) IDE disk and attach it to the secondary IDE controller and hope to use all 300 GB? I will still use the old disk for booting and to hold the OS. The new disk will be just for data. If this will just work how do I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed? _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New IDE drive in old PC
On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 22:12, Robert Ames wrote: I have an old (very old) ASUS P5 motherboard running FreeBSD 5.4. The boot disk is a 40MB Western Digital WD400 IDE drive jumpered to only use 32MB so it can be booted from since the BIOS in this PC (the latest and greatest) can't deal with anything larger than 32MB. This PC is working well for me and I don't want to upgrade it. However I would like to add a lot of disk space. So my question is, can I go out and buy a new 300 GB (or whatever) IDE disk and attach it to the secondary IDE controller and hope to use all 300 GB? I will still use the old disk for booting and to hold the OS. The new disk will be just for data. If this will just work how do I configure the BIOS so the PC will boot with the large drive installed? Robert, If you had to jumper the boot disk for it to work with the BIOS of the motherboard, then the chances are that you would have to do the same with the 2nd hard drive. ISTR that ASUS produced updated BIOS' for most of their motherboards to get around this. Have a look at their website to see if there is and upgrade. There is also a area on the site for questions such as yours. Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FBSD 5.4 and old PC
Hi! I have an old Compaq Deskpro 2000 (P166) with 64M RAM and HDD 1.5G. I was thinking to make it as router with FBSD 5.4. Did anyone had any kind of problems with setup on that kind of machine? Regards, Sasa pgpyxZSX8QkjH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FBSD 5.4 and old PC
On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 08:58:23AM +0200, Sasa Stupar wrote: Hi! I have an old Compaq Deskpro 2000 (P166) with 64M RAM and HDD 1.5G. I was thinking to make it as router with FBSD 5.4. Did anyone had any kind of problems with setup on that kind of machine? Try it and see! Kris pgpuQ4nDmYWtf.pgp Description: PGP signature
old pc
I have a Pentium-S with 133Mhz , 8MB RAM and 1,7 GB Hard Disk Can i install freebsd 5.4 on such a machine or i need an older freebsd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old pc
On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 01:19:50PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Pentium-S with 133Mhz , 8MB RAM and 1,7 GB Hard Disk Can i install freebsd 5.4 on such a machine or i need an older freebsd You need more memory to install FreeBSD 5.4. I think 32MB RAM is the minimum needed to install. I think the newest version of FreeBSD that could be installed in only 8MB RAM was 3.3. You can run 4.x (and probably 5.x) with 8MB RAM but not install it, but it will be slow. I strongly recommend getting more memory. The CPU and harddisk should be adequate though. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old pc
On 7/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Pentium-S with 133Mhz , 8MB RAM and 1,7 GB Hard Disk Can i install freebsd 5.4 on such a machine or i need an older freebsd According to FreeBSD/i386 5.4-RELEASE Installation Instructions, http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/installation-i386.html, no, you can't. -- Dmitry Mityugov, St. Petersburg, Russia I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements We live less by imagination than despite it - Rockwell Kent, N by E ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: old pc
You need to increase the memory, otherwise you are fine. I have three 133-166 pentiums w/ 64 MB each, running 5.4 doing various jobs (i.e. DNS, DHCP server, etc.) and they have just been tooting along. Mind you, I have not installed X windows on any of these machines --Andy On Fri, 2005-07-22 at 13:19 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Pentium-S with 133Mhz , 8MB RAM and 1,7 GB Hard Disk Can i install freebsd 5.4 on such a machine or i need an older freebsd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpt on old PC
I have compiled a kernel (based on 4.10) on a newer PC with several options to get my dpt scsi controller for my older PC to work. The size of the kernel is bigger than an 1.44MB floppy disk. How can I make a kern.flp ready floppy with my new kernel ? How much bigger is it? Can you eliminate all other devices for which you don't need support? You could put the floppy onto a CD, however, this is something I've not had the need to do so perhaps someone on the list could point you in the right direction. Steve ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel support for old PC
Dear FreeBSD users I would like to boot and use the latest freebsd distribution available on an old i386 Pentium PC with no ATAPI nor IDE disk controller. My configuration is DPT smartcache III SCSI controller on ISA bus SCSI CD-ROM and disks Ethernet 3com 3C509 on ISA bus The 5.2.1 distribution officially support all these stuffs, unfortunately I cannot configure any kernel because I cannot install any disk ! Could you please help me ? Is there a site where one can download pre-configured kernels on standard 1.44Mb floppy disk ? Thank you for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel support for old PC
Is there a site where one can download pre-configured kernels on standard 1.44Mb floppy disk ? Sure. You can start the install from floppy, then do the actual installation of the system over FTP. You can find the info you need to do this here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-pre.html Down near the bottom of the page explains how to aquire the floppies, and how to properly get the images over to the disks themselves. Cheers, Steve Thank you for your help. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Steve Bertrand Senior Systems/Network Manager eagle.ca Internet www.eagle.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: 905.373.9313 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
