Re: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-06 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 02:01:51AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
  
  On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:49:31AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:

On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:10:42PM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
 Hi,
 
   I've noticed that recent version(s?) of portupgrade seem to 
 update
 the +CONTENTS of *EVERY* package on my system, not just the ones it 
 used to
 actually make a difference to. Is there a way to revert to the old 
 behaviour?
 With 915 ports (WAS only around 600 before the recent Xorg upgrade) 
 its a
 killer. On my Soekris with a CF drive, and only 57 ports, its still 
 killing
 that CF chip.

Please show us how you came to this conclusion.

Kris
   
 script output from a recent update :
   
   ---  Upgrade of sysutils/bsdstats started at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:00 
   -0400
   ---  Upgrading 'bsdstats-5.3' to 'bsdstats-5.3_4' (sysutils/bsdstats)
   OK? [yes] 
   ---  Build of sysutils/bsdstats started at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:09 
   -0400
   ---  Building '/usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats'
   ===  Cleaning for bsdstats-5.3_4
   ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
   ===  Extracting for bsdstats-5.3_4
   ===  Patching for bsdstats-5.3_4
   ===  Configuring for bsdstats-5.3_4
   ---  Build of sysutils/bsdstats ended at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:10 
   -0400 (cons
   umed 00:00:00)
   ---  Updating dependency info
   ---  Modifying /var/db/pkg/Hermes-1.3.3_2/+CONTENTS
  
  Is it actually writing to these files, or just examining them to see
  whether they need to be updated?
  
  Kris
  
   I was truthfully only going by what I believed it was saying, that
 it was really modifying them.
 
   I upgraded fetchyahoo tonite after I emailed this, and if I do an
 ls -lt in /var/db/pkg I see :
 
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  15891456 Aug  6 00:59 pkgdb.db
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 fetchyahoo-2.10.9
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Compress-Zlib-2.005
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Crypt-SSLeay-0.56
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.005
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-libwww-5.805
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 openssl-0.9.8e_1
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Authen-SASL-2.10_1
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Digest-MD5-2.36
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-MIME-Tools-5.420_1,2
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Net-1.21,1
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.005
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-GSSAPI-0.24
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-HTML-Parser-3.56
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-HTML-Tagset-3.10
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-IO-Compress-Base-2.005
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Convert-BinHex-1.119
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Digest-1.15
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-IO-stringy-2.110
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-MIME-Base64-3.07
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Mail-Tools-1.74
 
   (etc)
 
 
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 bsdstats-5.3_4
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 Hermes-1.3.3_2
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 ImageMagick-6.3.3.5_1
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 ORBit-0.5.17_3
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 ORBit2-2.14.8
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 OpenEXR-1.4.0
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 OpenSP-1.5.2
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 Xaw3d-1.5E_2
 drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 aalib-1.4.r5_3
 
   I thought the timestamp of a directory only changes if a
 file was added or modified in the directory. 
 
   If I do the ls -lt */\+CONTENTS, I see :
 
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel2386 Aug  6 00:59 fetchyahoo-2.10.9/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1113 Aug  6 00:59 xset-1.0.2/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 976 Aug  6 00:59 xsetmode-1.0.0/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1003 Aug  6 00:59 xsetpointer-1.0.0/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1204 Aug  6 00:59 xsetroot-1.0.1/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1597 Aug  6 00:59 xsm-1.0.1/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1149 Aug  6 00:59 xstdcmap-1.0.1/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel5124 Aug  6 00:59 xterm-228/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1157 Aug  6 00:59 xtrans-1.0.3/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel3097 Aug  6 00:59 xtrap-1.0.2/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel6643 Aug  6 00:59 xv-3.10a_7/+CONTENTS
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel4629 Aug  6 00:59 

Re: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-06 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
 
 On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 02:01:51AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
   
   On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:49:31AM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
 
 On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:10:42PM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I've noticed that recent version(s?) of portupgrade seem to 
  update
  the +CONTENTS of *EVERY* package on my system, not just the ones it 
  used to
  actually make a difference to. Is there a way to revert to the old 
  behaviour?
  With 915 ports (WAS only around 600 before the recent Xorg upgrade) 
  its a
  killer. On my Soekris with a CF drive, and only 57 ports, its still 
  killing
  that CF chip.
 
 Please show us how you came to this conclusion.
 
 Kris

script output from a recent update :

---  Upgrade of sysutils/bsdstats started at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 
10:52:00 -0400
---  Upgrading 'bsdstats-5.3' to 'bsdstats-5.3_4' (sysutils/bsdstats)
OK? [yes] 
---  Build of sysutils/bsdstats started at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:09 
-0400
---  Building '/usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats'
===  Cleaning for bsdstats-5.3_4
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===  Extracting for bsdstats-5.3_4
===  Patching for bsdstats-5.3_4
===  Configuring for bsdstats-5.3_4
---  Build of sysutils/bsdstats ended at: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:10 
-0400 (cons
umed 00:00:00)
---  Updating dependency info
---  Modifying /var/db/pkg/Hermes-1.3.3_2/+CONTENTS
   
   Is it actually writing to these files, or just examining them to see
   whether they need to be updated?
   
   Kris
   
  I was truthfully only going by what I believed it was saying, that
  it was really modifying them.
  
  I upgraded fetchyahoo tonite after I emailed this, and if I do an
  ls -lt in /var/db/pkg I see :
  
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  15891456 Aug  6 00:59 pkgdb.db
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 fetchyahoo-2.10.9
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Compress-Zlib-2.005
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Crypt-SSLeay-0.56
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.005
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-libwww-5.805
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 openssl-0.9.8e_1
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Authen-SASL-2.10_1
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Digest-MD5-2.36
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-MIME-Tools-5.420_1,2
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Net-1.21,1
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.005
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Digest-HMAC-1.01
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-GSSAPI-0.24
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-HTML-Parser-3.56
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-HTML-Tagset-3.10
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-IO-Compress-Base-2.005
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Convert-BinHex-1.119
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Digest-1.15
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-IO-stringy-2.110
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-MIME-Base64-3.07
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:59 p5-Mail-Tools-1.74
  
  (etc)
  
  
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 bsdstats-5.3_4
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 Hermes-1.3.3_2
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 ImageMagick-6.3.3.5_1
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 ORBit-0.5.17_3
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 ORBit2-2.14.8
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 OpenEXR-1.4.0
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 OpenSP-1.5.2
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 Xaw3d-1.5E_2
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 00:58 aalib-1.4.r5_3
  
  I thought the timestamp of a directory only changes if a
  file was added or modified in the directory. 
  
  If I do the ls -lt */\+CONTENTS, I see :
  
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel2386 Aug  6 00:59 fetchyahoo-2.10.9/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1113 Aug  6 00:59 xset-1.0.2/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 976 Aug  6 00:59 xsetmode-1.0.0/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1003 Aug  6 00:59 xsetpointer-1.0.0/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1204 Aug  6 00:59 xsetroot-1.0.1/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1597 Aug  6 00:59 xsm-1.0.1/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1149 Aug  6 00:59 xstdcmap-1.0.1/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel5124 Aug  6 00:59 xterm-228/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1157 Aug  6 00:59 xtrans-1.0.3/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel3097 Aug  6 00:59 xtrap-1.0.2/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 

Re: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-06 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
   Ok. But I part of my question to people , and reason for posting it
 here, is the old Is anyone else seeing this. When/if you use portupgrade, 
 does
 it do the same for you? Or is it just something that I happened some how to 
 inherit
 on atleast 2 of my machines?

2 machines (7.0-CURRENT and 6.2-RELEASE, i386), same behaviour:

$ cd /var/db/pkg
$ ls -l */\+CONTENTS | wc -l
 556
$ ls -lt */\+CONTENTS
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   15736 Aug  6 10:38 mplayer-0.99.10_13/+CONTENTS
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 571 Aug  6 10:38 xf86dgaproto-2.0.2/+CONTENTS
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 544 Aug  6 10:38 xf86driproto-2.0.3/+CONTENTS
[...]
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1232 Aug  6 10:37 adns-1.4/+CONTENTS
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   61306 Aug  6 10:37 
apache+mod_ssl-1.3.37+2.8.28/+CONTENTS
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1154 Aug  6 10:37 apg-2.3.0b_1/+CONTENTS

$ pkg_info -Ix portupgrade
portupgrade-2.3.1,2 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and management tool s
$ portupgrade
portupgrade 2.3.0 (2007/07/03)

HTH,

Karol

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Re[2]: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-06 Thread Gerard
On August 06, 2007 at 02:55AM Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:


[snip}

   Ok. But I part of my question to people , and reason for posting it
 here, is the old Is anyone else seeing this. When/if you use portupgrade, 
 does
 it do the same for you? Or is it just something that I happened some how to 
 inherit
 on atleast 2 of my machines?

I have noticed the same behavior. I have some 815 ports installed;
however, I had not noticed any significant deterioration in
performance.


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Re: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-06 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 02:55:34 -0400 (EDT)
Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]
   Ok. But I part of my question to people , and reason for
 posting it here, is the old Is anyone else seeing this. When/if you
 use portupgrade, does it do the same for you? Or is it just something
 that I happened some how to inherit on atleast 2 of my machines?

Interestingly, I see this behaviour only _partially_ with

  %ls -d /var/db/pkg/portupgrade*
  /var/db/pkg/portupgrade-devel-2.3.1

I've just upgraded the following ports (extract from build script):

  ===   Registering installation for sudo-1.6.9.3_1
  ===   Registering installation for jasper-1.900.1_6
  ===   Registering installation for intltool-0.36.0
  ===   Registering installation for cups-base-1.2.11_3
  ===   Registering installation for libglade2-2.6.2
  ===   Registering installation for ffmpeg-2007.07.12_1
  ===   Registering installation for libgnomeprint-2.18.0_3
  ===   Registering installation for py25-tkinter-2.5.1_2
  ===   Registering installation for xpdf-3.02_2
  ===   Registering installation for gstreamer-0.10.14
  ===   Registering installation for gstreamer-plugins-0.10.14,3

However:

  %ls -lt /var/db/pkg/*/*CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   50114 Aug  6 11:28 
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-common-2.8.4/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel9772 Aug  6 11:28 
/var/db/pkg/wxgtk2-unicode-2.8.4/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   35998 Aug  6 11:27 
/var/db/pkg/aMule-2.1.3_4/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   20786 Aug  6 11:26 
/var/db/pkg/gstreamer-plugins-0.10.14,3/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 992 Aug  6 11:13 
/var/db/pkg/xwud-1.0.1/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   21020 Aug  6 11:13 
/var/db/pkg/yelp-2.18.1_1/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   28133 Aug  6 11:13 
/var/db/pkg/zenity-2.18.2/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 441 Aug  6 11:13 /var/db/pkg/zip-2.32/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 440 Aug  6 11:13 
/var/db/pkg/zoo-2.10.1_2/+CONTENTS
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel1765 Aug  6 11:13 /var/db/pkg/xsm-1.0.1/+CONTENTS
  [...]
  [all other +CONTENTS files are in 11:13 and 11:12]

This means that upgrading of gstreamer-plugins affected only ports
depending on it (aMule and wxgtk2*). But this is obviously not the case
with some other ports.

However[2]:

  %ls -lt /var/db/pkg | head
  total 23198
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 11:28 gstreamer-plugins-0.10.14,3
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 11:28 wxgtk2-common-2.8.4
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 11:28 wxgtk2-unicode-2.8.4
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 11:27 aMule-2.1.3_4
  -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  21974016 Aug  6 11:26 pkgdb.db
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 11:16 gstreamer-0.10.14
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 11:16 libXft-2.1.12
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 11:16 xorg-libraries-7.2_2
  drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel   512 Aug  6 11:16 libXcomposite-0.3.2,1

I haven't recently noticed any significant change in performance. (The
times in the above lists are not relevant since couple of demanding
things were running at the same time.)

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Re[2]: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-06 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
 
 On August 06, 2007 at 02:55AM Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
 
 
 [snip}
 
  Ok. But I part of my question to people , and reason for posting it
  here, is the old Is anyone else seeing this. When/if you use portupgrade, 
  does
  it do the same for you? Or is it just something that I happened some how to 
  inherit
  on atleast 2 of my machines?
 
 I have noticed the same behavior. I have some 815 ports installed;
 however, I had not noticed any significant deterioration in
 performance.
 
Ok, so someone else is seeing it... 

Its not performance I'm worried about though. For the laptop, its
just sitting and watching it go through 915 files for an update to a small
program that doesn't rely on anything but perl.

For my Soekris, it IS bothersome. CF cards have a limited life, and
all those rewrites decrease it.

So I guess its the new way it does it then.

Tuc
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Re: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-06 Thread Garance A Drosehn

At 2:55 AM -0400 8/6/07, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:


Ok. But I part of my question to people , and reason for
posting it here, is the old Is anyone else seeing this. When/if
you use portupgrade, does it do the same for you? Or is it just
something that I happened some how to inherit on at least 2 of
my machines?


I've noticed it, but I've also noticed that it does not happen
every time.  I had one case were I did a portupgrade of a specific
set of components, and later I noticed that all the directories
under /var/db/pkg had been modified.  I did a 'portupgrade -f' of
the exact same components, and this time the only directories
which changed were the ones which were upgraded.

While the behavior seems odd, it has not caused any problems for me,
so I haven't done much investigation of it.  (the above paragraph
describes almost all of the investigation that I have done...)

Warner Losh also stumbled into this, in a recent case where he
ended up losing all subdirectories of /var/db/pkg due to a system
crash during a portupgrade.

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portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-05 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
Hi,

I've noticed that recent version(s?) of portupgrade seem to update
the +CONTENTS of *EVERY* package on my system, not just the ones it used to
actually make a difference to. Is there a way to revert to the old behaviour?
With 915 ports (WAS only around 600 before the recent Xorg upgrade) its a
killer. On my Soekris with a CF drive, and only 57 ports, its still killing
that CF chip.

Thanks, Tuc
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Re: portupgrade modifys EVERY +CONTENTS now?

2007-08-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:10:42PM -0400, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote:
 Hi,
 
   I've noticed that recent version(s?) of portupgrade seem to update
 the +CONTENTS of *EVERY* package on my system, not just the ones it used to
 actually make a difference to. Is there a way to revert to the old behaviour?
 With 915 ports (WAS only around 600 before the recent Xorg upgrade) its a
 killer. On my Soekris with a CF drive, and only 57 ports, its still killing
 that CF chip.

Please show us how you came to this conclusion.

Kris
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