RE: relay through gmail
you are definitely not right. No, he IS right. The issue is that while the mail RFC's don't require rDNS, there are a -few- rather stupid anti-spam filters out there that do. As long as you (or one of your users) is not e-mailing to someone on one of these mailservers your fine. there are few serwers using rather stupid anti-spams. and they treat it as spam. then user complain that mail doesn't get to the receiver. then i look at logs and paste a fragment about when and why mail wasn't received, or (more often) was received by target server. the next question is for target server's administrator. that are normal rules. not that someone use crap as anti-spam, and i (or you or else) then needs to avoid being treated as spam. this is normal procedure and normal rules, and not reverse. what mail server admin should do is to receive incoming mail and make sure it will go where is should. not install some stupid program and be happy. even more - quite often mail from my servers, these having reverse DNS mappings etc.. are treated as spams. most often by large sh..s like gmail, hotmail, lit of polish similar things, etc... which has spam policy as below: - everything that comes from us or our friends are mail - everything else is probably spam, if it not, don't care. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: relay through gmail
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:40 AM To: Zbigniew Szalbot Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; cuongvt Subject: Re: relay through gmail With dyndns he won't be able to deliver to many mailservers out there. while not RFC-mandatory, a static IP address and rDNS are a must now in most cases. rDNS is a must? strange but i don't have this in lot of places, and 2 places with dyndns-like solution (exactly like dyndns.com but done by my other machine) - both works without problems. you are definitely not right. No, he IS right. The issue is that while the mail RFC's don't require rDNS, there are a -few- rather stupid anti-spam filters out there that do. As long as you (or one of your users) is not e-mailing to someone on one of these mailservers your fine. But if you are, your screwed. We often get this kind of complaint call from customers who have setup this kind of deal and -1- person in their organization has -1- coorespondent they keep getting their mail rejected from. When we tell them they have to pay their ISP more money for a static IP address, whether they do it or not is usually dependent on how important the particular employee is, who is being screwed over. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
relay through gmail
I have 1 dynamic IP address at dyndns.com (xxx.dyndns.com) and 1 gmail account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) And I successfully setup my postfix so that when I send mail to outside, my postfix will relay through [EMAIL PROTECTED] When recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way to do that? Regard, -- Below is my config related to above content: relayhost = smtp.gmail.com smtp_use_tls = yes smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/ThawtePremiumServerCA.pem -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/relay-through-gmail-tp15731983p15731983.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
relay through gmail
I have 1 dynamic IP address at dyndns.com (xxx.dyndns.com) and 1 gmail account (us... http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@gmail.com) And I successfully setup my postfix so that when I send mail to outside, my postfix will relay through us... http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@gmail.com. When recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is us... http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@gmail.com, not us... http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@xxx.dyndns.com. So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is us... http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@xxx.dyndns.com, not us... http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?msg=bb475e48f8724b3f_done=/group/list.postfix.users/browse_thread/thread/4c122b90b1e5b59a@gmail.com. Is there a way to do that? Regard, -- Below is my config related to above content: relayhost = smtp.gmail.com smtp_use_tls = yes smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/ThawtePremiumServerCA.pem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
relay through gmail
I have 1 dynamic IP address at dyndns.com (xxx.dyndns.com) and 1 gmail account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) And I successfully setup my postfix so that when I send mail to outside, my postfix will relay through [EMAIL PROTECTED] When recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way to do that? Regard, -- Below is my config related to above content: relayhost = smtp.gmail.com smtp_use_tls = yes smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtp_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/ssl/ThawtePremiumServerCA.pem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relay through gmail
incredibly strange - you have your own DNS name, whhy simply you can't make your own mail server and use mail in your domain instead of gmail? much safer, much simpler ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relay through gmail
hi, 2008/2/28, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: incredibly strange - you have your own DNS name, whhy simply you can't make your own mail server and use mail in your domain instead of gmail? much safer, much simpler With dyndns he won't be able to deliver to many mailservers out there. while not RFC-mandatory, a static IP address and rDNS are a must now in most cases. -- Zbigniew Szalbot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: relay through gmail
Здравствуйте, Wojciech. Вы писали 28 февраля 2008 г., 13:06:38: incredibly strange - you have your own DNS name, whhy simply you can't make your own mail server and use mail in your domain instead of gmail? much safer, much simpler Who do you trust more? Google or mail server w/o correct PTR record (or at least other than xxx.dyndns.com)? -- С уважением, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relay through gmail
cuongvt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way to do that? First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional account in the Gmail interface. Second, configure postfix to send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] through gmail smtp server. In /etc/postfix/main.cf: smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay_auth /etc/postfix/sender_relay: [EMAIL PROTECTED][smtp.gmail.com]:587 /etc/postfix/sender_relay_auth: [EMAIL PROTECTED]userA:password_of_userA_on_gmail -- Nicolas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relay through gmail
With dyndns he won't be able to deliver to many mailservers out there. while not RFC-mandatory, a static IP address and rDNS are a must now in most cases. rDNS is a must? strange but i don't have this in lot of places, and 2 places with dyndns-like solution (exactly like dyndns.com but done by my other machine) - both works without problems. you are definitely not right. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relay through gmail
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Nicolas KOWALSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cuongvt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So I want to change so that when recipients received my mails and open them, the mail address in from of theses mails is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a way to do that? First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional account in the Gmail interface. Second, configure postfix to send mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] through gmail smtp server. In /etc/postfix/main.cf: smtp_sender_dependent_authentication = yes smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous sender_dependent_relayhost_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sender_relay_auth /etc/postfix/sender_relay: [EMAIL PROTECTED][smtp.gmail.com]:587 /etc/postfix/sender_relay_auth: [EMAIL PROTECTED]userA:password_of_userA_on_gmail -- Nicolas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional account in the Gmail interface. How do I declare my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional account in the Gmail interface. I don't quite understand what you mean. Could you be more specific? I think it is not able to create in Gmail with different domain something like dyndns.com etc Thank you ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relay through gmail
Vu The Cuong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional account in the Gmail interface. How do I declare my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional account in the Gmail interface. You have not searched in the interface before asking this, have you ? Settings - Account - Add another email address. I think it is not able to create in Gmail with different domain something like dyndns.com etc Yes, it can. Just check the headers of my original reply (not this one) if you do not believe me. -- Nicolas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relay through gmail
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Nicolas KOWALSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vu The Cuong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First declare your [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional account in the Gmail interface. How do I declare my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account as an additional account in the Gmail interface. You have not searched in the interface before asking this, have you ? Settings - Account - Add another email address. I think it is not able to create in Gmail with different domain something like dyndns.com etc Yes, it can. Just check the headers of my original reply (not this one) if you do not believe me. -- Nicolas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Nicolas KOWALSKI, I got it. in fact I already searched around but not reading char by char in the interface. I will take this into account. Thank you very much ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
