sendmail aliases not worked as expected
I am having trouble getting /etc/mail/aliases to properly forward system messages such as cron or periodic events. Actually this problem affects even mail input using the mail command or any other method. Although the cron/periodic is what I require the most. When a cron or periodic task creates an email to say root...it gets mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which results in an error message Jan 7 03:03:01 butters sm-mta[1511]: i07331me001498: SYSERR(root): butters.kibserv.org. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) A bounce message is generated and sends cleanly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The original message is removed from the queue...apparently this error is fatal to the original message. my alias file contains the following root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] seti: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kib:[EMAIL PROTECTED] virtualuser:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and many other entries...most are the defaults in the original file enabled and almost all eventually point to root anyhow. And yes I have run newaliases and received successful and positive response. 10:17am butters:/etc/mail # newaliases /etc/mail/aliases: 38 aliases, longest 22 bytes, 504 bytes total This problem seemed to start about the time I upgrades from 4.7 to 5.2. Presently I am loosely tracking current...usually up to a month behind with a 1 week run on a test box. I plan to track 5-stable as soon as I see it since I am too deep into 5.x features to go back to 4.x now. Current is not really all I bargained for :) 10:25am butters:/etc/mail # uname -a FreeBSD butters 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #3: Tue Dec 16 19:32:35 UTC 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 in my rc.conf file I thought maybe my sendmail options were wrong. historically I have used: sendmail_enable=YES but after reading the defaults and the rc.sendmail file I find that this option is exclusive of two other sendmail options sendmail_submit_enable and sendmail_outbound_enable So I tried each in turn with no change in result. But since I can't find much documentation on these other than what I can make from the rc.sendmail I might still just be using the wrong rc.conf the wrong way. It seems to me that sendmail is completely ignoring the /etc/mail/aliases file Even when I try to send mail to kib (a real user) or the virtualuser the mail always tries to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] eventually bounces and gets attached to a message to the postmaster. I suppose the aliases are not completely ignored because no mail ever gets to the local user mail accounts. Also note that the kibserv.org is an old domain no longer registered...but we still use it for testing purposes. To prove this is not a dns related issue here is a few digs. Our local dns server has all the correct records. 10:29am butters:/etc/mail # dig kibserv.org mx ; DiG 8.3 kibserv.org mx ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 64231 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; kibserv.org, type = MX, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: kibserv.org.1H IN MX10 mail.kibserv.org. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: kibserv.org.1H IN NS10.0.0.5. ;; Total query time: 2 msec ;; FROM: butters to SERVER: 10.0.0.5 ;; WHEN: Sun Jan 11 10:36:51 2004 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 29 rcvd: 72 10:36am butters:/etc/mail # dig mail.kibserv.org ; DiG 8.3 mail.kibserv.org ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63182 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; mail.kibserv.org, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: mail.kibserv.org. 1H IN CNAME stan.kibserv.org. stan.kibserv.org. 1H IN A 10.0.0.8 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: kibserv.org.1H IN NS10.0.0.5. ;; Total query time: 3 msec ;; FROM: butters to SERVER: 10.0.0.5 ;; WHEN: Sun Jan 11 10:37:15 2004 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 34 rcvd: 91 10:37am butters:/etc/mail # Well I can't think of anything else that might apply here. I hope I didn't go into too much detail making this unreadbale. But I suppose too much is better than not enough. As soon as I can get the mail server to accept these messages I will be allowed to roll our domains to this new mail server and I can finally get off hotmail and have a real pop3 account for a change. And please reply to or cc me as my hotmail account is not on the list anymore. It fills up so fast that the mailing list gets bounded messages and drops me every couple days if I don't keep deleting mail. Its become too much of a hassle. Thanks Jason Cribbins _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: sendmail aliases not worked as expected
On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 03:50:03PM +, mgmcomm @hotmail.com wrote: When a cron or periodic task creates an email to say root...it gets mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which results in an error message That's by design, believe it or not. 'root' is a member of class E -- Exposed Users -- whoese e-mail addresses won't be rewritten by genericstable processing or the like. Jan 7 03:03:01 butters sm-mta[1511]: i07331me001498: SYSERR(root): butters.kibserv.org. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) On your mail host, you need to add the names of all of the hosts you provide mail service for to the /etc/mail/local-host-names file, one per line. ;; ANSWER SECTION: kibserv.org. 1H IN MX10 mail.kibserv.org. ;; ANSWER SECTION: mail.kibserv.org. 1H IN CNAME stan.kibserv.org. stan.kibserv.org. 1H IN A 10.0.0.8 Not relevant to your current problem, but you've got your MX pointed to a CNAME. That's bad karma and not permitted by the DNS standards. You should make mail.kibserv.org into an A record like so: mail.kibserv.org. 1H IN A 10.0.0.8 stan.kibserv.org. 1H IN A 10.0.0.8 and similarly, provide PTR records for both names: $ORIGIN 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 8 1H IN PTR mail.kibserv.org. PTR stan.kibserv.org. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 26 The Paddocks Savill Way PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Marlow Tel: +44 1628 476614 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sendmail aliases not worked as expected
- Original Message - From: mgmcomm @hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: sendmail aliases not worked as expected I am having trouble getting /etc/mail/aliases to properly forward system messages such as cron or periodic events. Actually this problem affects even mail input using the mail command or any other method. Although the cron/periodic is what I require the most. When a cron or periodic task creates an email to say root...it gets mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which results in an error message Jan 7 03:03:01 butters sm-mta[1511]: i07331me001498: SYSERR(root): butters.kibserv.org. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) A bounce message is generated and sends cleanly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The original message is removed from the queue...apparently this error is fatal to the original message. my alias file contains the following root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] seti: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kib:[EMAIL PROTECTED] virtualuser:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and many other entries...most are the defaults in the original file enabled and almost all eventually point to root anyhow. And yes I have run newaliases and received successful and positive response. 10:17am butters:/etc/mail # newaliases /etc/mail/aliases: 38 aliases, longest 22 bytes, 504 bytes total This problem seemed to start about the time I upgrades from 4.7 to 5.2. Presently I am loosely tracking current...usually up to a month behind with a 1 week run on a test box. I plan to track 5-stable as soon as I see it since I am too deep into 5.x features to go back to 4.x now. Current is not really all I bargained for :) 10:25am butters:/etc/mail # uname -a FreeBSD butters 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #3: Tue Dec 16 19:32:35 UTC 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 in my rc.conf file I thought maybe my sendmail options were wrong. historically I have used: sendmail_enable=YES but after reading the defaults and the rc.sendmail file I find that this option is exclusive of two other sendmail options sendmail_submit_enable and sendmail_outbound_enable So I tried each in turn with no change in result. But since I can't find much documentation on these other than what I can make from the rc.sendmail I might still just be using the wrong rc.conf the wrong way. It seems to me that sendmail is completely ignoring the /etc/mail/aliases file Even when I try to send mail to kib (a real user) or the virtualuser the mail always tries to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] eventually bounces and gets attached to a message to the postmaster. I suppose the aliases are not completely ignored because no mail ever gets to the local user mail accounts. Also note that the kibserv.org is an old domain no longer registered...but we still use it for testing purposes. To prove this is not a dns related issue here is a few digs. Our local dns server has all the correct records. 10:29am butters:/etc/mail # dig kibserv.org mx If the system is sending mail to itself for processing, as most mx's do, you need to have the full host name in the local-host-names file. Otherwise, it doesn't know it's the controlling mx and will reject the mail. -- Micheal Patterson Network Administration TSG Incorporated 405-917-0600 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail aliases not worked as expected
From: Micheal Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mgmcomm @hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sendmail aliases not worked as expected Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:06:48 -0600 - Original Message - From: mgmcomm @hotmail.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:50 AM Subject: sendmail aliases not worked as expected I am having trouble getting /etc/mail/aliases to properly forward system messages such as cron or periodic events. Actually this problem affects even mail input using the mail command or any other method. Although the cron/periodic is what I require the most. When a cron or periodic task creates an email to say root...it gets mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which results in an error message Jan 7 03:03:01 butters sm-mta[1511]: i07331me001498: SYSERR(root): butters.kibserv.org. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) A bounce message is generated and sends cleanly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The original message is removed from the queue...apparently this error is fatal to the original message. my alias file contains the following root: [EMAIL PROTECTED] seti: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kib:[EMAIL PROTECTED] virtualuser:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and many other entries...most are the defaults in the original file enabled and almost all eventually point to root anyhow. And yes I have run newaliases and received successful and positive response. 10:17am butters:/etc/mail # newaliases /etc/mail/aliases: 38 aliases, longest 22 bytes, 504 bytes total This problem seemed to start about the time I upgrades from 4.7 to 5.2. Presently I am loosely tracking current...usually up to a month behind with a 1 week run on a test box. I plan to track 5-stable as soon as I see it since I am too deep into 5.x features to go back to 4.x now. Current is not really all I bargained for :) 10:25am butters:/etc/mail # uname -a FreeBSD butters 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #3: Tue Dec 16 19:32:35 UTC 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM i386 in my rc.conf file I thought maybe my sendmail options were wrong. historically I have used: sendmail_enable=YES but after reading the defaults and the rc.sendmail file I find that this option is exclusive of two other sendmail options sendmail_submit_enable and sendmail_outbound_enable So I tried each in turn with no change in result. But since I can't find much documentation on these other than what I can make from the rc.sendmail I might still just be using the wrong rc.conf the wrong way. It seems to me that sendmail is completely ignoring the /etc/mail/aliases file Even when I try to send mail to kib (a real user) or the virtualuser the mail always tries to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED] eventually bounces and gets attached to a message to the postmaster. I suppose the aliases are not completely ignored because no mail ever gets to the local user mail accounts. Also note that the kibserv.org is an old domain no longer registered...but we still use it for testing purposes. To prove this is not a dns related issue here is a few digs. Our local dns server has all the correct records. 10:29am butters:/etc/mail # dig kibserv.org mx If the system is sending mail to itself for processing, as most mx's do, you need to have the full host name in the local-host-names file. Otherwise, it doesn't know it's the controlling mx and will reject the mail. -- Actually the only one doing the job properly is the mail host itself which is using qmail/vpopmail. All local root messages get translated properly...sent to local ip address as per the mx record and then available for picking up via pop3/webmail. I am half tempted to drop sendmail on all hosts and see if qmail will forward to the mail host properly. From what I can tell no mail for root or any other local user ever leave that localhostbut the bounce mesages to the postmaster seem to work just fine. Only the mail host shoud accept incoming mail. mail on each individual host is not checked and needs to all go to one pop3 account on the mail host. Thanks Jason Cribbins _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail aliases not worked as expected
On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 03:50:03PM +, mgmcomm @hotmail.com wrote: When a cron or periodic task creates an email to say root...it gets mailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which results in an error message That's by design, believe it or not. 'root' is a member of class E -- Exposed Users -- whose e-mail addresses won't be rewritten by genericstable processing or the like. Well I used to be able to do this. Is this a 5.x design? How might I be able to get it to work the way it used to? This behavior doesn't seem limited to root. but to kib and virtualuser as well. I can only assume hat it applies to any alias or real user. Jan 7 03:03:01 butters sm-mta[1511]: i07331me001498: SYSERR(root): butters.kibserv.org. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) On your mail host, you need to add the names of all of the hosts you provide mail service for to the /etc/mail/local-host-names file, one per line. My mail host is qmail/vpopmail. Actually its Matt Simerson's mail toaster at http://matt.simerson.net. My local-host-names is actually a mysql table and considering the number of machines involved this is going to be a difficult task to maintain unless I can find a way to use some sort of globing (*.domain.com or such). Although this problem is for the toaster mailing list to assist me on if it comes down to that. This mail host is set to accept all mail for kibserv.org and example.com. Both are test domains. It seems to receive mail just fine when it gets [EMAIL PROTECTED] but not say [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually I don't even think [EMAIL PROTECTED] ever gets to the mail host...if I dig for mx records on host.domain.com it comes up with no answer and the default for sendmail it to send mail directly (basically to localhost) when no mx is found. So I suppose a work around would be to add an mx record for every host but that doesn't seem like a clean solution to the problem. ;; ANSWER SECTION: kibserv.org. 1H IN MX10 mail.kibserv.org. ;; ANSWER SECTION: mail.kibserv.org. 1H IN CNAME stan.kibserv.org. stan.kibserv.org. 1H IN A 10.0.0.8 Not relevant to your current problem, but you've got your MX pointed to a CNAME. That's bad karma and not permitted by the DNS standards. You should make mail.kibserv.org into an A record like so: mail.kibserv.org. 1H IN A 10.0.0.8 stan.kibserv.org. 1H IN A 10.0.0.8 and similarly, provide PTR records for both names: $ORIGIN 0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 8 1H IN PTR mail.kibserv.org. PTR stan.kibserv.org. Good point. I will reconfigure as you suggest. The cname mail.kibserv.org is mainly useful for getting web mail users to the proper place. Thanks Jason Cribbins _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
