small fanless mini-pc for home router/firewall?

2013-05-08 Thread firm...@gmail.com
What is the best option out there for a mini-pc to run FreeBSD as a home
router/firewall?  (needs to have 2 nic's)
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Re: small fanless mini-pc for home router/firewall?

2013-05-08 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM, firm...@gmail.com firm...@gmail.com wrote:

 What is the best option out there for a mini-pc to run FreeBSD as a home
 router/firewall?  (needs to have 2 nic's)


I had some pretty good experiences with older Soekris models (net-4801)
acting as fanless routers and little servers (DHCP, NFS, lighttpd, etc...).

http://soekris.com/products/net4801.html

I don't know how well their newer products run on FreeBSD though,
especially after the switch to clang. Others on this list may be able
to add their experiences.

-cpghost.

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Re: small fanless mini-pc for home router/firewall?

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Boosten


Op 8 mei 2013 om 16:24 heeft C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws het volgende 
geschreven:

 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM, firm...@gmail.com firm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What is the best option out there for a mini-pc to run FreeBSD as a home
 router/firewall?  (needs to have 2 nic's)
 
 I had some pretty good experiences with older Soekris models (net-4801)
 acting as fanless routers and little servers (DHCP, NFS, lighttpd, etc...).
 
 http://soekris.com/products/net4801.html
 
 I don't know how well their newer products run on FreeBSD though,
 especially after the switch to clang. Others on this list may be able
 to add their experiences.
 
 -cpghost.
 
 

I had some serious performance problems running M0n0wall on a 4801. These were 
solved by replacing it with a 5501. But otherwise perfect hardware. 

Peter
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Re: small fanless mini-pc for home router/firewall?

2013-05-08 Thread Arthur Chance

On 05/08/13 15:10, firm...@gmail.com wrote:

What is the best option out there for a mini-pc to run FreeBSD as a home
router/firewall?  (needs to have 2 nic's)


I use an alix2d3 running embedded pfSense as a 3 NIC (WAN, LAN, DMZ) 
router. If you only need 2 NICs go for the alix2d2. You can also add two 
mini-PCI WiFi cards to the 2d2 (or one to the 2d3) should you want WiFi 
as well.


http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm

I think you can get these from a supplier in the US as well, but someone 
else will have to tell you who.


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Re: small fanless mini-pc for home router/firewall?

2013-05-08 Thread Arthur Chance

On 05/08/13 15:48, Arthur Chance wrote:

On 05/08/13 15:10, firm...@gmail.com wrote:

What is the best option out there for a mini-pc to run FreeBSD as a home
router/firewall?  (needs to have 2 nic's)


I use an alix2d3 running embedded pfSense as a 3 NIC (WAN, LAN, DMZ)
router. If you only need 2 NICs go for the alix2d2. You can also add two
mini-PCI WiFi cards to the 2d2 (or one to the 2d3) should you want WiFi
as well.

http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm

I think you can get these from a supplier in the US as well, but someone
else will have to tell you who.


As soon as I sent that I noticed the shop link on the Alix page gives 
you a list of providers round the world. They've expanded their outlets 
a lot since I bought mine.


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Re: small fanless mini-pc for home router/firewall?

2013-05-08 Thread Zyumbilev, Peter
Hi,

I currently run this one:

http://www.applianceshop.eu/index.php/firewalls/opnsense/opnsense-desktop-and-wallmountable/opnsense-pfsense-appliance.html

with pfsense 2 (it is freebsd too)

Works great :)

The only problems I see so far is when I push it at 90+ Mb/s it start to
have issues with load but if do not plan such high speeds it work like
charm..Kind of expensive though...

Peter

On 08/05/2013 17:10, firm...@gmail.com wrote:
 What is the best option out there for a mini-pc to run FreeBSD as a home
 router/firewall?  (needs to have 2 nic's)
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Re: small fanless mini-pc for home router/firewall?

2013-05-08 Thread dweimer

On 05/08/2013 9:10 am, firm...@gmail.com wrote:
What is the best option out there for a mini-pc to run FreeBSD as a 
home

router/firewall?  (needs to have 2 nic's)
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You might want to look at the pfSense project, works great for this use, 
Embedded FreeBSD with Web configuration.  http://www.pfsense.org they 
have a hardware page on the website with links to vendors where you can 
get some complete kits and do it your self assembly and installation for 
around $200 (using PC Engines Alix Boards), or for a little more 
pre-assembled, and installed systems.


I have been running it at my house and 3 installations at work for well 
over a year, on the Alix platforms.  Performance and stability have been 
great, though the Alix platform does lack memory and processor for doing 
much more than routing/dhcp/firewall/ipsec.  I used one of the do it 
your-self kits at my house, and used pre-assembled and installed setups 
for work, big difference is writing the image to the compact flash 
yourself.  Assembly is so simple it might as well not be called 
assembly.


If you are wanting IPSEC do pay attention though to the throughput on 
the Alix systems, and what you have available on your bandwidth, the 
same would likely go for any of the low boarded fan less systems, they 
should all handle routing/firewall just fine for whatever bandwidth you 
likely have but once you starting getting into 15Mbits and up these 
smaller boards will likely struggle with IPSEC.


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