totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

2004-01-23 Thread Didier WIROTH
Hi,
(I'm new to freebsd and apache)

With mod_bandwidth you can limit bandwidth per client ip or make adjustments
depending on the size of the file etc.. But as far I've read so far you
can't limit an overall bandwidth with it.

In Microsoft IIS you have an option Limit the total network bandwidth
available for all Web sites on this server the webserver can use on the
network. 

My goal: when the server is saturated because of http bandwidth, I want a
reasonable amount of free banwidth for the following protocols:
1) ssh 
2) ftp
I want to be able to logon via ssh and upload or download ftp files at any
given time without being handicaped by http bandwidth. I simply want a
predefined available free bandwidth.

How do you handle this throttle limits on Freebsd?
Are you using ipfw dummynet? (may be you have link with sample rules, I've
already read man 8 ipfw)
Perhaps other possibilities?

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FW: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

2004-01-23 Thread Didier WIROTH

I forgot to mention that I'm using FreeBSD5.2-release.
Perhaps pf  altq would also be a solution for limiting bandwidth?! 

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Subject: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

Hi,
(I'm new to freebsd and apache)

With mod_bandwidth you can limit bandwidth per client ip or make adjustments
depending on the size of the file etc.. But as far I've read so far you
can't limit an overall bandwidth with it.

In Microsoft IIS you have an option Limit the total network bandwidth
available for all Web sites on this server the webserver can use on the
network. 

My goal: when the server is saturated because of http bandwidth, I want a
reasonable amount of free banwidth for the following protocols:
1) ssh
2) ftp
I want to be able to logon via ssh and upload or download ftp files at any
given time without being handicaped by http bandwidth. I simply want a
predefined available free bandwidth.

How do you handle this throttle limits on Freebsd?
Are you using ipfw dummynet? (may be you have link with sample rules, I've
already read man 8 ipfw) Perhaps other possibilities?

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RE: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

2004-01-23 Thread fbsd_user
Could not find anything called altq in the FBSD ports system.
Would you please translate altq to an FBSD port name.

Thanks

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Subject: FW: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd


I forgot to mention that I'm using FreeBSD5.2-release.
Perhaps pf  altq would also be a solution for limiting bandwidth?!

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Sent: vendredi 23 janvier 2004 12:38
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Subject: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

Hi,
(I'm new to freebsd and apache)

With mod_bandwidth you can limit bandwidth per client ip or make
adjustments
depending on the size of the file etc.. But as far I've read so far
you
can't limit an overall bandwidth with it.

In Microsoft IIS you have an option Limit the total network
bandwidth
available for all Web sites on this server the webserver can use on
the
network.

My goal: when the server is saturated because of http bandwidth, I
want a
reasonable amount of free banwidth for the following protocols:
1) ssh
2) ftp
I want to be able to logon via ssh and upload or download ftp files
at any
given time without being handicaped by http bandwidth. I simply want
a
predefined available free bandwidth.

How do you handle this throttle limits on Freebsd?
Are you using ipfw dummynet? (may be you have link with sample
rules, I've
already read man 8 ipfw) Perhaps other possibilities?

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Re: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

2004-01-23 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:45:50 -0500
fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could not find anything called altq in the FBSD ports system.
 Would you please translate altq to an FBSD port name.

http://www.rofug.ro/projects/freebsd-altq/


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Re: FW: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

2004-01-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Didier WIROTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I forgot to mention that I'm using FreeBSD5.2-release.
 Perhaps pf  altq would also be a solution for limiting bandwidth?! 

Yes.  Or ipfw(8) and dummynet(4).  And so on.
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Re: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

2004-01-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Didier
 WIROTH
 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:14 AM
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 Subject: FW: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd
 
 
 I forgot to mention that I'm using FreeBSD5.2-release.
 Perhaps pf  altq would also be a solution for limiting bandwidth?!

fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Could not find anything called altq in the FBSD ports system.
 Would you please translate altq to an FBSD port name.

altq is *part* of pf.
/usr/ports/security/pf
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Re: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

2004-01-23 Thread Dinesh Nair

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Didier WIROTH wrote:

 How do you handle this throttle limits on Freebsd? Are you using ipfw
 dummynet? (may be you have link with sample rules, I've already read man
 8 ipfw) Perhaps other possibilities?

dummynet pipes it is. there're examples on the man page.

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RE: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

2004-01-23 Thread fbsd_user
From the ALTQ home web page says it's an stand-a-lone application
and says nothing about being incorporated into PF the firewall. If
it is then all the better. Thanks for the pointer to this
information.
 http://www.csl.sony.co.jp/person/kjc/kjc/software.html#ALTQ

ALTQ: Alternate Queueing for BSD UNIX (version 3.1)
This is a release of Alternate Queueing for BSD UNIX. ALTQ provides
queueing disciplines and other QoS related components required to
realize resource-sharing and quality of service. The ALTQ release is
intended to be a flexible platform to promote network research and
gain field experience.
ALTQ consists of a system framework, QoS components, and management
tools. The system framework provides an abstraction of QoS
components and interfaces QoS components into the existing operating
system. The QoS components realizes actual service differentiation
mechanisms. The management tools include altq daemon and altqstat
monitoring tool. Note that ALTQ controls only outgoing traffic since
queueing disciplines work only on outgoing interfaces.
Now that ALTQ is being developed in the KAME repository, this
standalone ALTQ release is back-ported from KAME, and supports only
FreeBSD-4.5, NetBSD-1.5.2 and OpenBSD-3.0. (some tools and documents
haven't been merged into KAME, and are available only in this
release. OpenBSD-3.0 already integrates ALTQ so that this packages
updates the ALTQ part. ALTQ in OpenBSD-current as of February 26
isn't much different from altq-3.1.)


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Subject: Re: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd

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 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:14 AM
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 Subject: FW: totally allocated apache bandwidth in freebsd


 I forgot to mention that I'm using FreeBSD5.2-release.
 Perhaps pf  altq would also be a solution for limiting
bandwidth?!

fbsd_user [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Could not find anything called altq in the FBSD ports system.
 Would you please translate altq to an FBSD port name.

altq is *part* of pf.
/usr/ports/security/pf
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