Re: system immutable files make mergemaster look funny

2002-07-10 Thread Doug Barton

Doug Barton wrote:
 
 On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote:
 
  ET The only problem is that those diagnostics from 'rm' might be a bit
  ET misleading and/or annoying but everything works fine.
 
 I think that you guys are running an old mergemaster on a new -stable
 system. Can you verify? The -f option to rm prevents error messages from
 being displayed.

Never mind, I was testing on the wrong system. I'll take care of this.

Doug

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Re: 4.6 kernel build failure

2002-07-10 Thread Roelof Osinga

faSty wrote:
 no no you need clean up in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NISSER (type make clean)
 then cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf and config NISSER then cd ../../compile/NISSER
 lastly make depend

Make absolutely no difference whatsoever. Still get stuck on that linux code. But
how the heck it ever managed to build the 4.6 it's running...

It also makes me wonder if I should bother to take the 100 mile drive to the ISP
in whose rack another box is located. That one didn't come up after the reboot.

Ah well, can always make it run the 4.3 kernel like it has done for over a year.

Roelof

PS final attempt, making clean in /usr/src, ditching /usr/obj and using the
config file of yesteryear. The one without BRIDGE option, the one that once
made 4.6 successfully

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OpenSSH 3.4p1

2002-07-10 Thread Vitor de Matos Carvalho

Hi...

I noticed that upgrade of the version of the OpenSSH for 3.4p1 was made one
when cvs for RELENG_4 is made.

It adds a new user and a new group with the name of sshd. Which would be the
funcão of it? To twirl sshd with the user sshd instead of the user root?
Case is because for default it does not come with this alteration?


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OpenSSH 3.4p1

2002-07-10 Thread Vitor de Matos Carvalho

Hi...

I noticed that upgrade of the version of the OpenSSH for 3.4p1 was made one
when cvs for RELENG_4 is made.

It adds a new user and a new group with the name of sshd. Which would be the
function of it? To twirl sshd with the user sshd instead of the user root?
Case is because for default it does not come with this alteration?


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RE: Upcoming 4.6.1

2002-07-10 Thread Daniel Eriksson


  Sure - the newest security fixes go into the release as 
 well, but why 
  not Matt's most recent bug fixes?
 
 Why not include OpenSSL 0.96d, ipfw2, gcc 3.1 and while we're at it 
 everyone else's pet software?  Where would you draw the line?  IMO, 
 4.6.1 s/b a point patch release.

Maybe because they are not bug fixes?

If we go through the trouble of releasing a new version of FreeBSD why
not include a few close-to-critical bug fixes if they are trivial and
known to be correct? I fail to see the logic of releasing an x.x.1
version that still has serious known problems that there are known fixes
for.

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Re: 4.6 kernel build failure

2002-07-10 Thread faSty

ah you says so. I did it on one of my rack DNS server. I managed get
kernel compiled without any error. sorry i tried help you anyway.

-fasty


On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 10:25:52AM +0200, Roelof Osinga wrote:
 faSty wrote:
 no no you need clean up in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/NISSER (type make 
 clean)
 then cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf and config NISSER then cd 
 ../../compile/NISSER
 lastly make depend
 
 Make absolutely no difference whatsoever. Still get stuck on that linux 
 code. But
 how the heck it ever managed to build the 4.6 it's running...
 
 It also makes me wonder if I should bother to take the 100 mile drive to 
 the ISP
 in whose rack another box is located. That one didn't come up after the 
 reboot.
 
 Ah well, can always make it run the 4.3 kernel like it has done for over a 
 year.
 
 Roelof
 
 PS final attempt, making clean in /usr/src, ditching /usr/obj and using the
 config file of yesteryear. The one without BRIDGE option, the one that once
 made 4.6 successfully
 
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Performance boost with kernel options in FBSD 4.6

2002-07-10 Thread Hartmann, O.

Dear Sirs.

I followed an interesting dispute in this list about setting
the kernel option HZ=100 to HZ=1.

No one can say exactly what kind of hardware is 'fast enough' to
obtain benefits from setting this granularity option to that high value,
so each administrator has to do several efforts to examine whether
its hardware is suitable to switch o HZ=1 or not.

We use several SMP systems around here, some have special server
mainboards (Slot1 type, TYAN Thunder 2500), some new UP systems
with P4/ASUS P4TE main PCB and a low cost SMP system with
ASUS CUV4X-D PCB. On all these systems it seems to my subject
that performance or 'reaction' time has significantly increased.

I did not test the behaviour under extremely heavy load, but
within our normal duties and daily work (webserver, MySQL server,
NFS server (UPD NFS/3), DHCP boot server, SAMBA server, analytical
number crunching with smaller applications in F77 and/or PGI pgf90
under Linuxulator) it is a very convenient experience to see
how smooth these machines operate now.

We also have a lot of pure diskless clients for X11 terminal services,
based on 750 MHz Duron and 64 MB PC133 slow SDRAM, Intel Pro/100+
NICs. They also now have HZ set to 1 and they also seem to operate
faster.

Well, this is a subjective impression, not aproved by measurements.

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VMware2 and CDROM image

2002-07-10 Thread Igor Sysoev


Hi,

I have a patch that allow to use CD-ROM images in VMware2 via vn device:
http://sysoev.ru/freebsd/patch.vn_cd.txt

Patch was made and tested on FreeBSD 4.2 and 4.3.
I had used it to install Windows NT 4.0 from CD-ROM image in VMware2.
It can be used on FreeBSD 4.x only (because it's using vn device).

Russian description is available here:
http://sysoev.ru/freebsd/vmware_cd_image.html

In English, short:
After appling of patch you need rebuild vnconfig and kernel.
vnconfig will get new options - '-s cdrom':

vnconfig -s cdrom -c vn0c image.iso

After configuring vn device you can use it in VMware2 as /dev/vn0c
instead of physical CD-ROM device.


Igor Sysoev
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Re: 4.6 kernel build failure

2002-07-10 Thread Roelof Osinga

faSty wrote:
 ah you says so. I did it on one of my rack DNS server. I managed get
 kernel compiled without any error. sorry i tried help you anyway.

Oh no, don't be. Any help is always welcome!

But I did notice one thing and that is that the good compiles were done just
after the 2002.07.05 cvsup. When I tried the bridge option I did another
cvsup on the 9th. Since then the compiles failed. Both with and without that
option.

So there is still hope in that that server - the one that didn't come up -
has the July 5th cvsup source. Ah well, got a nice set of wheels :).

Roelof

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Re: ssh to remote machines problem after cvsup

2002-07-10 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav

Andrew P. Lentvorski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 If OpenSSH did a proper attempt version 2(fail) - attempt version
 1(succeed) fallback, your original users *would* be able to get in
 *without* change.  This fact that this does not occur really is a
 bug/misfeature of OpenSSH.

No, it's a bug/misfeature of the protocol OpenSSH implements.  OpenSSH
can't do anything about it without losing the right to its name.

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lnc interface dying under heavy I/O when running 4.6-STABLE under VMware 3.1.1

2002-07-10 Thread Nuzrin Yaapar

Guys,

The subject describes it all. I don't know if anyone else is facing this
problem, but I can reproduce this problem at will. Under VMware 3.1.1
for Windows, the lnc driver will stop responding after some time. The
weirdest part is that it will only manifest itself when doing some heavy
network I/O, such as 'make installworld' from NFS mount, or doing
netperf.

The host OS is WinXP Pro, and the guest OS is the freshly cvsup
RELENG_4. Looking at VMware log file, I see a lot these messages:

Jul 09 16:42:48: VMX|VLANCE: ethernet0 skipped 1024 time(s)
Jul 09 16:42:48: VMX|VLANCE: 254 30 24 23 26 215 11 3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Jul 09 16:42:48: VMX|VLANCE: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 436
Jul 09 16:42:51: VMX|VLANCE: ethernet0 skipped 1280 time(s)
Jul 09 16:42:51: VMX|VLANCE: 354 44 37 35 37 313 17 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Jul 09 16:42:51: VMX|VLANCE: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 436

I've done some investigation, and it seems that after some heavy network
activity, the lnc driver will stop calling RX interrupt routine,
lnc_rint(). The fix is very simple though; in sys/i386/isa/if_lnc.c,
delete the call to outw(sc-rdp, RINT | INEA) at the very end of
lnc_rint() function. See diff below applied against the latest RELENG_4
code.

# diff -ruN sys/i386/isa/if_lnc.c.old sys/i386/isa/if_lnc.c
--- sys/i386/isa/if_lnc.c.old   Tue Jul  9 21:04:31 2002
+++ sys/i386/isa/if_lnc.c   Tue Jul  9 21:04:45 2002
@@ -630,7 +630,6 @@
 * here have been dealt with.
 */
 
-   outw(sc-rdp, RINT | INEA);
 }

Anyone care to describe/explain/enlighten me on what is happening
actually?

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Information request about Running SMP kernel with specific mptable

2002-07-10 Thread Henri Hennebert

Hello,

Does anyone is running FreeBSD stable in SMP mode on a motherboard
_without_ any I/O Ints entry with type ExtINT (mptable output)?

I'm suspercting that my kernel freeze at boot come from:
APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 0

My PR is:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/39234

Another related problem is maybe:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/35425

Any information is welcome

Henri

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Re: strange ATA behavior with -STABLE

2002-07-10 Thread Clement Laforet

On Tue, 09 Jul 2002 23:51:08 -0400
Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Works correctly in what sense ? i.e. you can read and write to it under 
 some OS ? But not on this version of FreeBSD ?
Yes, I tested the drive under FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE and 4.5-STABLE (before new ATA 
drivers) 
and 4.6-stable (27th June). No problem.

 
 And worked since 4.3-RELEASE with the same sysctl parameters

 ata-1 is dead
 
 Do you mean ad1 ? If so, If you take ad1 out and adjust ata-0's  jumpers so 
 that its a master with no slave, does it now work ?
I put ad2 to ad1, and on heavy load ATA channel 0 failed to.
I removed my strange disk to and put, added another one.
Same symptoms.

 If not ad1, what do you mean by ata-1 is dead ?  Or do you mean ata-1 the 
 controller is actually dead ? If so, get rid of the second drive.
ATA channel 0 is dying to I think.
It's not a big problem for, I'll get rid of ata drive for my box,
I just wonder why FreeBSD get frozen on atapi failure :)

 

 Try sysctl -w hw.ata.ata_dma=0 or add hw.ata.ata_dma=0 into 
 /boot/loader.conf and reboot.
No change.

cheers
clem
 
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UPDATE : of atacontrol cap of ad2
Sorry i mistyped :)

[root@goofy|(510)| root]# atacontrol cap 1 0
ATA channel 1, Master, device ad2:

ATA/ATAPI revision5
device model  IC35L040AVER07-0
firmware revision ER4OA41A
cylinders 16383
heads 16
sectors/track 63
lba supported 80418240 sectors
lba48 not supported 
dma supported
overlap not supported

Feature  Support  EnableValue   Vendor
write cacheyes yes
read ahead yes yes
dma queued yes yes  31/1F
SMART  yes no
microcode download no  no
security   yes no
power management   yes yes
advanced power management  yes no   0/00
automatic acoustic management  yes no   254/FE  128/80

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sshd vs ports sshd

2002-07-10 Thread Mike Jakubik

There seems to be a conflict in the 'sshd' user of FreeBSD's built in sshd
and the ports version.

passwd diffs:
12a13
 sshd:(password):22:22::0:0:Secure Shell Daemon:/var/empty:/sbin/nologin
21d21
 sshd:(password):22:22::0:0:sshd privilege
separation:/usr/local/empty:/nonexistent

IMHO: This is exactly why server software should not be included in the base
distribution of FreeBSD.

Thanks.

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Ye Olde Show Stopper

2002-07-10 Thread Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.

To Ye Lord of -STABLE:

I failed 3 times to make buildkernel after
cvsuping RELENG_4,  July 9th at 
CDT US.

Turns out, I'd never built -STABLE on this
particular host which was still running
4.5 patched (it's way back on the backline,
doing only internal stuff)

Anyway, after a bit of reading I found I was
bitten by ye olde miibus_if.h  thing
--- ref the following [incredibly useless
in plaintext] URI
:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=9bthhl%2
4bk0%241%0FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.twrnum=7prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dkernel%2Bcompil
e%2Bfails%2Bmiibus%2Bgroup%253Amailing.freebsd.stable%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie
%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8

I uncommented the line in kern.conf (*blush*)
and went back to make buildworld.

The question is, was I right?  Or, could
I have just called 'make buildkernel' again
and continued from there?  Which make
is gonna make miibus_if.h?

Thank you very much,

Kevin Kinsey


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Re: Ye Olde Show Stopper

2002-07-10 Thread Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.

 that's Lords ...  egads, howe much
mye speling and typeing lacketh accurasy!!
Faugh!!

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:09 PM
Subject: Ye Olde Show Stopper


 To Ye Lord of -STABLE:

 I failed 3 times to make buildkernel after
 cvsuping RELENG_4,  July 9th at 
 CDT US.

 Turns out, I'd never built -STABLE on this
 particular host which was still running
 4.5 patched (it's way back on the backline,
 doing only internal stuff)

 Anyway, after a bit of reading I found I was
 bitten by ye olde miibus_if.h  thing
 --- ref the following [incredibly useless
 in plaintext] URI
 :

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=9bthhl%2

4bk0%241%0FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.twrnum=7prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dkernel%2Bcompil

e%2Bfails%2Bmiibus%2Bgroup%253Amailing.freebsd.stable%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie
 %3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8

 I uncommented the line in kern.conf (*blush*)
 and went back to make buildworld.

 The question is, was I right?  Or, could
 I have just called 'make buildkernel' again
 and continued from there?  Which make
 is gonna make miibus_if.h?

 Thank you very much,

 Kevin Kinsey


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Do VIA 83C572 USB controllers suck or is it just me?

2002-07-10 Thread Nick Sayer

I have a desktop machine with an Asus A7V133 motherboard. It's based 
around the VIA KT133A chipset. I tend to have a lot more problems with 
USB devices (under FreeBSD) on these controllers than with, say, my Vaio 
laptop, which purports to be based on the Intel 440 BX chipset (with a 
PIIX4 USB controller).

The latest outrage is that I am doing some work on a USB audio device 
driver to clean it up a bit. It works *perfectly* plugged into the Vaio, 
but when it's plugged into the Asus machine, I get a trap panic the 
instant I try and play anything. I can't diagnose the trap because the 
dump doesn't happen, for unknown reasons.

I'm almost at the point of going out and getting a PCI USB controller 
card for the damn thing.

Is it just me?


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Re: Do VIA 83C572 USB controllers suck or is it just me?

2002-07-10 Thread John Merryweather Cooper

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 20:33, Nick Sayer wrote:
 I have a desktop machine with an Asus A7V133 motherboard. It's based 
 around the VIA KT133A chipset. I tend to have a lot more problems with 
 USB devices (under FreeBSD) on these controllers than with, say, my Vaio 
 laptop, which purports to be based on the Intel 440 BX chipset (with a 
 PIIX4 USB controller).
 
 The latest outrage is that I am doing some work on a USB audio device 
 driver to clean it up a bit. It works *perfectly* plugged into the Vaio, 
 but when it's plugged into the Asus machine, I get a trap panic the 
 instant I try and play anything. I can't diagnose the trap because the 
 dump doesn't happen, for unknown reasons.
 
 I'm almost at the point of going out and getting a PCI USB controller 
 card for the damn thing.
 
 Is it just me?
 
Well, my DFI AK74-EC works fine with USB devices (ZIP drive and a
camera) and has the KT133A chipset.

The only limitation I have experienced is camera (and not motherboard)
related--my Fuji FinePix 4900Z is recognized only at a ugen and not as a
umass.  I'm still scratching my head on that one.  But the USB works
fine otherwise.

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Re: Do VIA 83C572 USB controllers suck or is it just me?

2002-07-10 Thread Chip Marshall

On July 10, 2002, Nick Sayer sent me the following:
 I have a desktop machine with an Asus A7V133 motherboard. It's based 
 around the VIA KT133A chipset. I tend to have a lot more problems with 
 USB devices (under FreeBSD) on these controllers than with, say, my Vaio 
 laptop, which purports to be based on the Intel 440 BX chipset (with a 
 PIIX4 USB controller).

I had problems with my Gigabyte GA-7VTXE (also KT133A based) where USB
devices during boot would be detected fine, and one device after boot
would work, but after that, nothing. I turned on USB debugging, and it
appeared that the USB code was getting stuck somehow during the
attachement of the device. I posted to the list a while ago about it,
but didn't get any response.

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Re: Ye Olde Show Stopper

2002-07-10 Thread Kent Stewart



Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

  that's Lords ...  egads, howe much
 mye speling and typeing lacketh accurasy!!
 Faugh!!
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:09 PM
 Subject: Ye Olde Show Stopper
 
 
 
To Ye Lord of -STABLE:

I failed 3 times to make buildkernel after
cvsuping RELENG_4,  July 9th at 
CDT US.

Turns out, I'd never built -STABLE on this
particular host which was still running
4.5 patched (it's way back on the backline,
doing only internal stuff)

Anyway, after a bit of reading I found I was
bitten by ye olde miibus_if.h  thing
--- ref the following [incredibly useless
in plaintext] URI
:


 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8threadm=9bthhl%2
 
 4bk0%241%0FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.twrnum=7prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dkernel%2Bcompil
 
 e%2Bfails%2Bmiibus%2Bgroup%253Amailing.freebsd.stable%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie
 
%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8

I uncommented the line in kern.conf (*blush*)
and went back to make buildworld.

The question is, was I right?  Or, could
I have just called 'make buildkernel' again
and continued from there?  Which make
is gonna make miibus_if.h?


The miibus is a kernel thing and you only needed to buildkernel again.

Kent



Thank you very much,

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Re: NFS errors at high hz values with TCP mounts

2002-07-10 Thread Roman V. Palagin

On Jul 7, at 1:44pm -0700, John Polstra wrote:

  I see this problem with HZ=1000, overflow doesn't occured in this
  situation... May be problem lies somewhere else?

 Are you sure?  I changed the type of sb_timeo to int and the problem
 disappeared on my system.

You are right - this is just a coincidence: changes to HZ and Solaris NFS
server TCP/IP tuning... The problem realy lies in Solaris changes...

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Re: 4.6 kernel build failure

2002-07-10 Thread parv

in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Roelof Osinga thusly...

 cc -O -pipe -march=pentiumpro  -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls 
 -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith 
 -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I-  
 -I. -I@ -I@/../include -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -Wall -Wredundant-decls 
 -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith 
 -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -ansi -c linux_sysent.c
 In file included from linux_sysent.c:14:
 linux_proto.h:57: syntax error before `linux_time_t'
 linux_proto.h:57: `linux_time_t' undeclared here (not in a function)

hi roelof, i just couldn't take your suffering anymore  was mightly
hoping that you just might search google out of sheer desparation.

i also had the problem; followed the UPDATING comment about it which
didn't work, so i sent it to the -stable list in jan 2002.  here is
another thing to try...

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Re: Do VIA 83C572 USB controllers suck or is it just me?

2002-07-10 Thread James Pole

On Thursday 11 July 2002 16:50, Chip Marshall wrote:
 I had problems with my Gigabyte GA-7VTXE (also KT133A based) where USB
 devices during boot would be detected fine, and one device after boot
 would work, but after that, nothing.

Isn't that motherboard KT266A-based? I have the exact same motherboard 
(GA-7VTXE) -- and it has a KT266A chipset, not a KT133A. Even Giagbyte's 
website seems to agree with me 
(http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/products/7vtxe.htm).

- James

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Re: Do VIA 83C572 USB controllers suck or is it just me?

2002-07-10 Thread Kirk Strauser


At 2002-07-11T03:33:44Z, Nick Sayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a desktop machine with an Asus A7V133 motherboard. It's based
 around the VIA KT133A chipset. I tend to have a lot more problems with USB
 devices (under FreeBSD) on these controllers than with, say, my Vaio
 laptop, which purports to be based on the Intel 440 BX chipset (with a
 PIIX4 USB controller).

I don't know what to say.  My wife uses an A7V (KT133, 83C572 USB
controller) under FreeBSD and Linux.  We use USB mice, keyboard, scanners,
and printers regularly without any problems.  I may be extremely lucky, but
that wouldn't fit with my other life experiences. :)
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