Recomended 1000BaseFX card with SC connectors

2005-09-19 Thread Igor Robul

Hello,

which 1000BaseFX (optics) card with SC connector is _best_ for FreeBSD 
5-STABLE in SMP environment?


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Re: audio (acdt01) dump broken? (BETA4 (5))

2005-09-19 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Emanuel Strobl wrote this message on Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 01:44 +0200:
 tonight I wanted to consolidate (for an upcoming trekstor i.beat organix) 
 my oggs and therefore eval the difference between reencoded 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] and the original reread 
 wavs(tracks)-[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Unfortunately I couldn't grab my CDs anymore. I can remember I had used 'dd 
 if=/dev/acd0txx of=/tmp/track.xx bs=2352' but this doesn't work anymore. I 
 can't replay the bits and with oggenc I get:
 ERROR: Input file track15.wav is not a supported format

[...]

 What am I missing?

That the raw audio data on a cd is raw, and not a wav file... WAV files
have a bit of information that contains what the sampling rate is, the
channels and the bits per sample:
hydrogen,ttyp4,/home/johng,504$file /tmp/quarter.wav
/tmp/quarter.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 8 bit, 
mono 22254 Hz

so, if you want, you can use sox to convert the raw audio data into
wav:
sox -t cdr rawcddata.cdr somefile.wav

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PANIC: upon disconnecting UMASS device ...

2005-09-19 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
Hi all,

Without a doubt I can reproduce this panic every single time.

1. Insert UMASS USB Stick
2. mount as msdos
3. umount USB stick
4. remove USB stick
4. some time laster [hours/days] *panic*: panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs

OS-Version: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 14 12:32:30 CST 2005

[/var/log/messages before panic'd. Interestingly it takes
 a few hours or days before the panic actually occurs].

Sep  9 17:03:11 hostname kernel: umass0: at uhub1 port 1 (addr 2) 
disconnected
Sep  9 17:03:11 hostname kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device
Sep  9 17:03:11 hostname kernel: (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device 
entry
Sep  9 17:03:11 hostname kernel: umass0: detached

Sep 12 08:15:21 hostname kernel: panic: vinvalbuf: dirty bufs
Sep 12 08:15:21 hostname kernel: KDB: enter: panic
Sep 12 08:15:21 hostname kernel: Dumping 767 MB

backrace:

(kgdb) bt
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:160
#1  0xc0469db5 in db_fncall (dummy1=0, dummy2=0, dummy3=7919, 
dummy4=0xde1619f4 \200\237\226À)
at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:531
#2  0xc0469b64 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc0969684, cmd_table=0x0, 
aux_cmd_tablep=0xc08ea080, aux_cmd_tablep_end=0xc08ea09c)
at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:349
#3  0xc0469c55 in db_command_loop () at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:455
#4  0xc046bb0d in db_trap (type=3, code=0) at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_main.c:221
#5  0xc0686dd3 in kdb_trap (type=0, code=0, tf=0xde161b40) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/subr_kdb.c:470
#6  0xc0860273 in trap (frame=
  {tf_fs = -1064566760, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -568983536, tf_edi = 1, 
tf_esi = -1064505670, tf_ebp = -568976504, tf_isp = -568976532, tf_ebx = 
-568976448, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -1056878592, tf_eax = 18, tf_trapno = 3, 
tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1066898615, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 646, tf_esp = 
-1064519392, tf_ss = -1064525103}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:584
#7  0xc084dfaa in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:140
#8  0xc08c0018 in ?? ()
#9  0x0010 in ?? ()
#10 0xde160010 in ?? ()
#11 0x0001 in ?? ()
#12 0xc08ceeba in ?? ()
#13 0xde161b88 in ?? ()
#14 0xde161b6c in ?? ()
#15 0xde161bc0 in ?? ()
#16 0x in ?? ()
#17 0xc1015000 in ?? ()
#18 0x0012 in ?? ()
#19 0x0003 in ?? ()
#20 0x in ?? ()
#21 0xc0686b49 in kdb_enter (msg=0x0) at cpufunc.h:56
#22 0xc066c309 in panic (fmt=0xc08ceeba vinvalbuf: dirty bufs) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:550
#23 0xc06cbbfe in vinvalbuf (vp=0xc4a2d318, flags=1, cred=0x0, td=0x0, 
slpflag=0, slptimeo=0)
at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:972
#24 0xc06cf4b1 in vclean (vp=0xc4a2d318, flags=8, td=0xc1f0f480) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2478
#25 0xc06cfcb6 in vgonel (vp=0xc4a2d318, td=0x0) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2697
#26 0xc06ca94f in vlrureclaim (mp=0xc2107000) at pcpu.h:157
#27 0xc06cac7b in vnlru_proc () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:598
#28 0xc065325e in fork_exit (callout=0xc06caa29 vnlru_proc, arg=0x0, 
frame=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:791
#29 0xc084e00c in fork_trampoline () at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:209
(kgdb) 


USB Code in kernel:

# USB support
device  uhci# UHCI PCI-USB interface
device  ohci# OHCI PCI-USB interface
device  usb # USB Bus (required)

USB Controllers:

uhci0: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A port 0xa400-0xa41f 
irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
usb0: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhci1: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B port 0xa000-0xa01f 
irq 23 at device 31.4 on pci0
usb1: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0

Offending USB UMASS Stick:

Sep  9 15:46:46 hostname kernel: umass0: USB Flash Disk, rev 2.00/2.00, 
addr 2
Sep  9 15:46:47 hostname kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
Sep  9 15:46:47 hostname kernel: da0: JetFlash TS1GJF2B 2.00 Removable 
Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
Sep  9 15:46:47 hostname kernel: da0: 1.000MB/s transfers
Sep  9 15:46:47 hostname kernel: da0: 1000MB (2048000 512 byte sectors: 64H 
32S/T 1000C)


 - aW
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Re: BETA4: Panic and can't cleanup filesystem

2005-09-19 Thread Jeremie Le Hen
Hi,

[ please avoid cross-posting, RELENG_6 is still in its beta stage, so
  -current@ should be use for now. ]

 When trying to unmount my flash drive with force (#umount -f /flash) machine
 hardlocked.
 After restart, when fsck-ing in background, computer panicked.
 Machine is SMP 2x500MHz PIII with Asus P2B-DS motherboard
 cvsuped and updated to RELENG_6 (BETA4) on 14 september with SHED_ULE and
 PREEMPTION
 panic is written on hand:
 
 panic: handle_written_inodeblock: live inodedep
 cpuid=0
 KDB: enter: panic
 [thread pid3 tid 100033]
 stopped atkdb_enter+0x2b:nop
 db where
 Tracing pid 3 tid 100033 td 0xc15d17d0
 kdb_enter(c062b964) at kdb_enter+0x2b
 panic(c063a716,0,2,0,0) at panic+0x127
 handle_written_inodeblock(c1809a00,cbc1a738) at
 handle_written_inodeblock+0x533
 softdep_disk_write_complete(cbc1a738) at softdep_disk_write_complete+0xb6
 bufdone(cbc1a738) at bufdone+0x160
 g_vfs_done(c1825ad4) at g_vfs_done+0x8a
 biodone(c1825ad4,d42e8cc4,0,c062632c,1ea) at biodone+0x57
 g_io_shedule_up(c15d17d0) at g_io_shedule_up+0xb5
 g_up_procbody(0,d42e8d38,0,c04be5c0,0) at g_up_procbody+0x5a
 fork_exit(c04be5c0,0,d42e8d38 at fork_exit+0xa0
 fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
 --- trap 0x1,eip=0,esp=0xd42e8d6c,ebp=0 ---
 dbshow alllocks
 Process 3 (g_up) thread 0xc15d17d0 (100033)
 exclusive sleep mutex SoftdepLock r=0 (0xc06dbda0) locked @
 /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:4075
 exclusive sleep mutex g_xup r=0 (0xd42e8cc4) locked @
 /usr/src/sys/geom/geom_io.c:490
 Process 31 (irq20:acpi0) thread 0xc15cd320 (100021)
 exclusive sleep mutex acpica subsystem lock r=0 (0xc15c0280) locked @
 /usr/src/sys/modules/acpi/../../../dev/acpica/Osd/Osdynch.c:361
 db panic
 Dump...

This panic should certainly be studied by a kernel hacker.  You should
keep the kernel dump.  I'm not enough experienced to help you here,
maybe jeff, tegge or truckman could help you here.

 after restart, system stoped and entered in single mode with inconsistency
 in /var
 after fsck, there was message:
 
 BAD SUPERBLOCK: VALUES IN SUPERBLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE
 
 then search for SUPERBLOCK failed,
 and fsck don't have option -b...
 tried to mount all filesystems and got another panic:
 # /var: bad dir ino 2 at offset 0: mangled entry
 panic: ufs_dirbad: bad dir
 cpuid=0
 KDB: enter: panic
 [thread pid 133 tid 100063]
 stoped at kdb_enter+0x2b: nop
 dbwhere
 Tracing pid 133 tid 100063 td 0xc18554000
 kdb_enter(c062b964) at kdb_enter+0x2b
 panic(c063b64c,c1829800,da96c904,c059eb66,c18866b4) at panic+0x127
 ufs_dirbad(c18866b4,0,c063b606,c1854000,0) at ufs_dirbad+0x3a
 ufs_lookup(da96c92c) at ufs_lookup+0x36a
 VOP_CACHEDLOOKUP_APV(c066fd80,da96c92c) at VOP_CACHEDLOOKUP_APV+0x87
 lookup(da96cbcc,c0515064,0,c1854000,c06bc7c0) at lookup+0x3d6
 namei(da96cbcc,c062cf75,267,c1854000,da96ca68) at namei+0x35a
 vn_open_cred(da96cbcc,da96,0,c15c9a80,3) at vn_open_cred+0x277
 vn_open(da96cbcc,da96,0,3,c062cf75) at vn_open+0x1e
 kern_open(c185400,28065e40,0,1,0) at kern_open+0xb6
 open(c185400,da96cd04,3,1,296) at open+0x1a
 syscall(3b,3b,3b,2807,80486b1) at syscall+0x27f
 xint0x80_syscall() at xint0x80_syscall+0x1f
 --- syscall(5,FreeBSD ELF32,open),
 eip=0x28054e67,esp=0xbfbfebcc,ebp=0xbfbfec78 ---
 
 With every restart, system going in single mode. What can i do to clean /var
 filesystem and to debug these panics? Any help are welcome...

Did you try the -b flag from fsck_ffs(8) ?  You can get the location
of other superblocks with the dumpfs(8) utility.

Regards,
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NEC 1300A DVD-R writing

2005-09-19 Thread JON KENNEDY
AAron
could you please email the site for the firmware update?
thank you in advance,
Jon
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Re: Jail to jail network performance?

2005-09-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
[Sorry, this is a late reply, but might be helpful.]

Daniel Gerzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello Brandon,
  Thursday, September 15, 2005, 5:17:57 AM, you wrote:
   [...]
   nullfs looks interesting. I was thinking about sharing files
   between jails using NFS, but it looks like nullfs would do the trick
   with better performance. Although the bugs section of the man page
   for mount_nullfs is rather scary. Does anyone have any experience
   with it? Does it actually work?
  
  btw unionfs is interesting as well, but the BUGS section is pretty the
  same :)

Another possibility is to use union mounts (i.e. using the
-o union mount flag with a regular mount).  This works
without problems and is very stable, but it is a little
less flexible than UNIONFS (or NULLFS) because it merges
only the directory entries at the mount point.

   If the point here is to make /tmp/mysql.sock show up in another
   jail's file space, can I use a symlink instead? Can a jailed process
   see the target of the symlink?
  
  I read that using such a symlinks has security impacts.

Symlinks within a jail cannot point to targets outside of
that jail.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: problem with PPPoE STABLE and ADSL 3Com HomeConnect

2005-09-19 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:37:03AM +0200, ComteZero _ wrote:
C Hello,
C 
C it's been two weeks I try to find out what's wrong. Clean install from cvsup 
C STABLE (5).
C my ADSL account works fine with REL. 4.4+rp_pppoe but not with my new STABLE 
C (5) (without using rp_pppoe).
C could someone help me on this issue (logs provided here)... two PADI are 
C emitted but nothing happens after.
C (i saw that someone had a similar problem, but with previous netgraph 
C revisions).
C 
C thank you.
C 
C Since my ADSL modem is 3Com HomeConnect, I've set the 
C net.graph.nonstandard_pppoe=1

In modern FreeBSD versions 3Com mode for ng_pppoe is switched per-node, not
via sysctl. You should use ppp(8) option to enable 3Com mode:

set pppoe 3Com

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any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Eriq

I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0
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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Scot Hetzel
On 9/19/05, Eriq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0


Most likely a month after 6.0 is released, as they are busy getting
6.0 ready for the release.

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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:21:31PM -0500, Eriq wrote:
 I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0

A few months after 6.0 is released.

Kris


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Gratuitous ARP

2005-09-19 Thread Colin Farley

   Hi all,



   I am using UCARP on two FreeBS= D 4.10-RELEASE-p16 nodes to offer
   highly available apache virtual hosts.nb= sp; Everything seems to
   work very well except that occasionally one webserv= er will become
   inaccessable from outside it's subnet.  I have narrowed= this down to
   an arp issue.  When a UCARP IP becomes unavailable. = ; I normally
   start a constant ping to it from my machine which lives on a d   ifferent 
subnet, all requests timeout.  I log into the cisco router
   th= at has an interfaces living on the webserver's subnet.  I then
   view th= e arp table of the cisco router an see that the MAC that is
   listed for that= UCARP IP is the MAC of the inactive node.  I then
   clear the arp cache= on the cisco router, this makes the routers arp
   table update correctly aft= er that my ping requests get replied and
   the webserver is again accessible = from the outside.



   So, I have come up with a few = solutions to this problem, which
   include:



   1.nbs= p; Set the arp cache timeout of the cisco router very low so
   that outages a= re minimal.  I would rather not do this as it will
   problably stress th= e router too much.  Unfortunately I know little
   about cisco devices so= I really cant figure this one out, does anyone
   think that this is a bad th= ing?  Can you tell a cisco device not to
   cache arp entries on just the= internal interface?  The subnet
   currently consists of about 25 hosts = so this may not be so bad after
   all?

   2.  Run an ANT task to = clear the cache on the cisco device, this
   task can become part of the UCARP= scripts.  This may be a good
   solution but security is a concern.

   3.  Find a way to make the FreeBSD nodes produce more than usual   
gratuitous arp packets or add a line to do only that in the UCARP
   scripts.=   Anyone have any thoughts on this or suggestions on how I
   may be able= to do this?  I have tried by re adding the alias but this
   sometimes d= oesn't work until I again remove and readd the alias.
   Could it be a p= roblem with the alias addition not functioning
   properly?

   = nbsp;

   Any input at all is greatly appreciated.



   Thanks,

   Colin

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Re: Gratuitous ARP

2005-09-19 Thread Matt Douhan
On Monday 19 September 2005 19:31, Colin Farley wrote:
1.nbs=p; Set the arp cache timeout of the cisco router very low so
that outages a=re minimal.  I would rather not do this as it will
problably stress th=e router too much.  Unfortunately I know little
about cisco devices so=I really cant figure this one out, does anyone
think that this is a bad th=ing?  Can you tell a cisco device not to
cache arp entries on just the=internal interface?  The subnet
currently consists of about 25 hosts =so this may not be so bad after
all?

Depending on your Cisco router model you will not have any issues whatsoever 
lowering the timeout to really low, in the region of a few seconds.

even an old 25xx device would be to handle that without problems.



2.  Run an ANT task to =clear the cache on the cisco device, this
task can become part of the UCARP=scripts.  This may be a good
solution but security is a concern.

This would be very very bad, cause no matter how you do it the security 
concern would be severe.

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Re: Gratuitous ARP

2005-09-19 Thread Colin Farley

   Hi Matt,



   Thanks for your reply.  = The model of the Cisco router is 2811.  Do
   you think that lowering the= timeout to 5 seconds would be ok? I have
   seen that Cisco does not recommen= d a timeout below 30 seconds but
   after reading your reply and seeing as the= re are only a couple dozen
   hosts on this subnet I would think that thi= s would be fine.  Please
   confirm. Thanks again.



   
   Colin

   [EMAIL PROTECTED] .org wrote: -

 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
 From: Matt Douhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] itsalad.org
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 09/19= /2005 01:54PM
 cc: Colin Farley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 = Subject: Re: Gratuitous ARP
 On Monday 19 September 2005 19:31, Colin = Farley wrote:
 1.nbs=p; Set the arp cache timeou= t of the cisco router
 very low so
 that outages a=re = minimal.  I would rather not do this as
 it will
 p= roblably stress th=e router too much.  Unfortunately I
 know littleabout cisco devices so=I really cant figure this
 one = out, does anyone
 think that this is a bad th=ing? n= bsp;Can you tell a
 cisco device not to
 cache arp entri= es on just the=internal interface?  The
 subnet
 = currently consists of about 25 hosts =so this may not be
 so bad after
 = all?
 Depending on your Cisco router model you will= not have any issues
 whatsoever
 lowering the timeout to really low, in = the region of a few
 seconds.
 even an old 25xx device would be to han= dle that without problems.
 
 2.  Ru= n an ANT task to =clear the cache on the cisco
 device, this
   = ;  task can become part of the UCARP=scripts.  This may be a
 go= od
 solution but security is a concern.
 This wou= ld be very very bad, cause no matter how you do it the
 security
 concern= would be severe.
 --
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 www.fruitsalad.org
 (remem= ber, amateurs built the Ark, professionals built the
 Titanic)
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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Dan Mack

Thanks for that info.

The release engineering page should be updated to reflect this.  The last 
time I looked (yesterday), it read that 5.5 will be out in September 2005.


Dan

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005, Kris Kennaway wrote:


On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 12:21:31PM -0500, Eriq wrote:

I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0


A few months after 6.0 is released.

Kris


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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Sandro Noel.
Why would 5.5 come out after 6.0, what's the use ?
just upgrade to 6.0 ,.,, no?

Sandro

On 9/19/05, Eriq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0


Most likely a month after 6.0 is released, as they are busy getting
6.0 ready for the release.

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Re: Gratuitous ARP

2005-09-19 Thread Charles Swiger

On Sep 19, 2005, at 3:08 PM, Colin Farley wrote:

   Thanks for your reply.   The model of the Cisco router is 2811.  Do
   you think that lowering the timeout to 5 seconds would be ok? I  
have

   seen that Cisco does not recommend a timeout below 30 seconds but
   after reading your reply and seeing as the re are only a couple  
dozen
   hosts on this subnet I would think that thi s would be fine.   
Please

   confirm. Thanks again.


Remember that the router is going to have to re-ARP for these hosts  
whenever something external sends traffic to them, unless the router  
already has another active connection going.  The thing is,  
ARPOP_REQUESTS use a broadcast MAC address which gets sent to all of  
the machines on the network, which adds processing overhead not just  
on the router itself but also on all of these machines.


Fortunately, you can see what this overhead is quite easily in order  
to tune things:


Run tcpdump -nt arp and see how often your Cisco is making requests  
with a 5-second ARP cache timeout.  So long as your network is only  
getting, say, a single-digit number of ARP requests per second, this  
amount of overhead is not going to matter significantly.  Adjust as  
needed.


--
-Chuck

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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Paul T. Root

In the past, x.0 releases are meant for the adventurous
not the production oriented.

I never go before x.1. And I skipped 3.x completely.
I just got my final server from 4.11 to 5.4 in July.

6.x is probably still 9-12 months away from prime time.
But that's just a guess on my part. I do know that they
are pushing on it harder than they did for 5.0.

Sandro Noel. wrote:

Why would 5.5 come out after 6.0, what's the use ?
just upgrade to 6.0 ,.,, no?

Sandro

On 9/19/05, Eriq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0




Most likely a month after 6.0 is released, as they are busy getting
6.0 ready for the release.





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On 9/19/05, Eriq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I haven't noticed any word on this release, just 6.0




Most likely a month after 6.0 is released, as they are busy getting
6.0 ready for the release.





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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Sandro Noel.
Thank you for the explaination paul.


Sandro.

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Re: Gratuitous ARP

2005-09-19 Thread Javier Henderson

Colin Farley wrote:

   Hi Matt,



   Thanks for your reply.  =he model of the Cisco router is 2811.  Do
   you think that lowering the=imeout to 5 seconds would be ok? I have
   seen that Cisco does not recommen= a timeout below 30 seconds but
   after reading your reply and seeing as the=e are only a couple dozen
   hosts on this subnet I would think that thi= would be fine.  Please
   confirm. Thanks again.


It should be fine, but some experimentation will be in order, as the 
amount of traffic each node generates could be a factor as well.


Set it to what you want, then keep an eye on CPU utilization on the 
router. The command you want is:


show proc cpu

-jav
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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 02:36:10PM -0500, Paul T. Root wrote:
 In the past, x.0 releases are meant for the adventurous
 not the production oriented.
 
 I never go before x.1. And I skipped 3.x completely.
 I just got my final server from 4.11 to 5.4 in July.
 
 6.x is probably still 9-12 months away from prime time.
 But that's just a guess on my part. I do know that they
 are pushing on it harder than they did for 5.0.

It's not nearly as big a gap as between other (n-1).x - n.0 releases,
so I'd say this time expectation is extremely pessimistic.  However,
time will tell, and if you're not able to deal with the possibility of
bugs in 6.0 then you should at least wait a while until after the
release to see what bugs are reported.

Kris


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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Scott Long

Paul T. Root wrote:

In the past, x.0 releases are meant for the adventurous
not the production oriented.

I never go before x.1. And I skipped 3.x completely.
I just got my final server from 4.11 to 5.4 in July.

6.x is probably still 9-12 months away from prime time.
But that's just a guess on my part. I do know that they
are pushing on it harder than they did for 5.0.

Sandro Noel. wrote:



6.0 is indeed receiving quite a bit of testing and bugfixing.  It's
a bit presumptuous to make public claims that it's 9-12 months away,
though.  I can appreciate the conventional wisdom of staying away from
N.0 releases, but we are putting quite a bit of effort into this one.
6.1 is not going to be 9-12 months away either, nor will 6.2.  The 6.x
line is generating quite a bit of excitement and will be a very good set
of releases.

Scott
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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Sandro Noel

That's what i thought ... :)


On Sep 19, 2005, at 6:59 PM, Scott Long wrote:


Paul T. Root wrote:


In the past, x.0 releases are meant for the adventurous
not the production oriented.
I never go before x.1. And I skipped 3.x completely.
I just got my final server from 4.11 to 5.4 in July.
6.x is probably still 9-12 months away from prime time.
But that's just a guess on my part. I do know that they
are pushing on it harder than they did for 5.0.
Sandro Noel. wrote:



6.0 is indeed receiving quite a bit of testing and bugfixing.  It's
a bit presumptuous to make public claims that it's 9-12 months away,
though.  I can appreciate the conventional wisdom of staying away from
N.0 releases, but we are putting quite a bit of effort into this one.
6.1 is not going to be 9-12 months away either, nor will 6.2.  The 6.x
line is generating quite a bit of excitement and will be a very  
good set

of releases.

Scott
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thx all for your responses

2005-09-19 Thread Eriq
though after looking at 6.0 beta I couldn't help but think why not just 
call it 5.5?

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Re: thx all for your responses

2005-09-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:18:48PM -0500, Eriq wrote:
 though after looking at 6.0 beta I couldn't help but think why not just 
 call it 5.5?

Because it's not a release from the 5.x branch.  Read the handbook for
detailed explanation of how FreeBSD releases work.

Kris


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Re: any ideas when 5.5 will be out

2005-09-19 Thread Paul Root

I'm just stating my observations and my decisions
on when I upgraded to a major revision. I started this
back in the early 2.x.x days. I believe 2.2.1 is my
first set of CDs. And I still have most all of them.

I also put in the caveot that a lot of work is being
concentrated on 6.x so times could be shorter.

Personally, I may put 6.0 on a test machine, but I
won't put it in production. I don't work that way.

I will go to 5.5, I'm sure, on my servers. I update
from source fairly regularly. And that was the original
question: Why would 5.5 come out after 6.0?


Scott Long wrote:

Paul T. Root wrote:


In the past, x.0 releases are meant for the adventurous
not the production oriented.

I never go before x.1. And I skipped 3.x completely.
I just got my final server from 4.11 to 5.4 in July.

6.x is probably still 9-12 months away from prime time.
But that's just a guess on my part. I do know that they
are pushing on it harder than they did for 5.0.

Sandro Noel. wrote:



6.0 is indeed receiving quite a bit of testing and bugfixing.  It's
a bit presumptuous to make public claims that it's 9-12 months away,
though.  I can appreciate the conventional wisdom of staying away from
N.0 releases, but we are putting quite a bit of effort into this one.
6.1 is not going to be 9-12 months away either, nor will 6.2.  The 6.x
line is generating quite a bit of excitement and will be a very good set
of releases.

Scott


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Re: Strange case of root filesystem corruption

2005-09-19 Thread Joel Rees


On 平成 17/09/19, at 5:32, Ulf Magnusson wrote:


Some more info:

Windows is installed on the same drive. When I launched Partition  
Magic

it complained about the LBA and CHS parameters for a partition on the
drive not being identical.

Just in case it's helpful..



FWIW, I've had bad luck with using Partition Magic more than two or  
three times on a drive. I just don't even use it any more.


Also, I've had bad luck using MSW-side software to do anything with  
the partitions after *BSD partitions are cut. MSWindows can't seem to  
obey its own rules.


If you have to dual-boot, cut the primary (BIOS-level) partitions  
once with MSW (and PM, if you must), then leave the BIOS-level  
partitions alone. Better yet, use two drives.


Joel Rees   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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