Re: HEADS UP: major CAM ATA MFC

2009-11-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
Alexander Motin wrote:
 Eugene Grosbein wrote:
 Alexander Motin wrote:

 Feedbacks are welcome as always.
 Today's RELENG_8 build is broken (my /usr/src is symlink to /usr/local/src):
 
 Can you try to update your sources again? ahci driver in 8-STABLE and
 HEAD are identical now and building fine in both, I've checked it
 yesterday.

I've updated again using cvsup.freebsd.org and now the problem has gone,
world builds just fine. It seems my local mirror had wrong moment for update
last night. Sorry for noise, I really should update again before posting.
Thanks!

Eugene Grosbein
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8.0-RC3 USB lock up on mounting two partitions from one USB drive

2009-11-18 Thread Guojun Jin
When mounting two partitions from a USB dirve, it can cause the drive access 
lock up for a long time.
Details:

Terminal 1 --
term1# mount /dev/da0s3d  /mnt
term1# cd /mnt ; rm -fr *

when rm starts, go to terminal 2 and do:

term2# mount /dev/da0s3e /dist ### this will hanging for a long time and USB 
hard drive activity light is off.
After more than 1-2 minutes, mount returns, and the drive activity light is 
blinking, thus removing is going on.

term2# ls /dist   ### this will cause dUSB dirve hanging again -- no avtivity.
Similarly, ls will finish in a couple of miniutes or longer, the rm command 
continues; but for a while, the drive
activity will stop again.

Reboot machine, repeat the above steps, and result will be the same. Reboot 
machine again, and just mount one
partition, then doing rm -rf * without involve the second partition, rm will 
finish quickly.

Has anyone obseved this behave on 8.0-RC?

-Jin













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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Gerrit Kühn
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:29:06 -0800 Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote
about Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters:

FC Any recommendations on other SAS/SATA controllers to look at (just not
FC anything with MegaRAID in the name)?

I installed a Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card here some days ago. Should be
even cheaper than the ones you mentioned and comes with a LSI chip
supported by mpt driver:

m...@pci0:6:0:0:class=0x01 card=0xa68015d9 chip=0x00581000
rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)'
device = 'SAS 3000 series, 8-port with 1068E -StorPort'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = SCSI



I only installed it last week and cannot comment much on performance and
stability up to now.


cu
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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Pete French
 better driver for this marvell chip. If someone gets to port it to
 FreeBSD, the card may be pretty decent choice for those who have PCI-X
 slot on-board.

I have PCI-X and just purchased an unbranded card based
on the SiL3124 chipset, as I was only using SATA 1 before.
I didn't expect much, but it's actually suprisingly fast.
Certainly a lot better than I expected - I've only had it
a week, but so far I would recommend it.

Mind you, this is my first real forray onto the world of non-SCSI
controllers so if I just bought a nightmare chipset with loads of
known issues then please tell me :-)

-pete.
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Re: 8.0-RC3 USB lock up on mounting two partitions from one USB drive

2009-11-18 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
Hi,

I'm not sure if this is an USB issue or not. If you get READ/WRITE errors and 
the drive simply dies then it might be the case. Else it is a system issue.

There are quirks for mass storage which you can add to 
sys/dev/usb/storage/umass.c .

--HPS

On Wednesday 18 November 2009 08:33:07 Guojun Jin wrote:
 Did newfs on those partition and made things worsen -- restore completely
 fails: (I had experienced another similar problem on an IDE, which works
 well for 6.4 and 7.2, but 8.0.) This dirve works fine under FreeBSD 6.4.

 Is something new in 8.0 making disk partition schema changed?

 g_vfs_done():da0s3d[READ(offset=98304, length=16384)]error = 6
 g_vfs_done():da0s3d[WRITE(offset=192806912, length=16384)]error = 6
 fopen: Device not configured
 cannot create save file ./restoresymtable for symbol table
 abort? [yn] (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status ==
 0xa, scs i status == 0x0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry
 ugen1.2: DMI at usbus1
 umass0: DMI Ultra HDD, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.19, addr 2 on usbus1
 umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x
 umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: DMI Ultra HDD 1.19 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 114473MB (234441648 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 14593C)
 Device da0s3d went missing before all of the data could be written to it;
 expect data loss.

 99  23:19   sysinstall
100  23:20   newfs /dev/da0s3d
101  23:20   newfs /dev/da0s3e
102  23:21   mount /dev/da0s3d /mnt
103  23:21   cd /mnt
104  23:21   dump -0f - /home | restore -rf -
105  23:27   history 15



 -Original Message-
 From: Guojun Jin
 Sent: Tue 11/17/2009 11:05 PM
 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org; freebsd-...@freebsd.org
 Subject: 8.0-RC3 USB lock up on mounting two partitions from one USB drive

 When mounting two partitions from a USB dirve, it can cause the drive
 access lock up for a long time. Details:

 Terminal 1 --
 term1# mount /dev/da0s3d  /mnt
 term1# cd /mnt ; rm -fr *

 when rm starts, go to terminal 2 and do:

 term2# mount /dev/da0s3e /dist ### this will hanging for a long time and
 USB hard drive activity light is off. After more than 1-2 minutes, mount
 returns, and the drive activity light is blinking, thus removing is going
 on.

 term2# ls /dist   ### this will cause dUSB dirve hanging again -- no
 avtivity. Similarly, ls will finish in a couple of miniutes or longer, the
 rm command continues; but for a while, the drive activity will stop again.

 Reboot machine, repeat the above steps, and result will be the same. Reboot
 machine again, and just mount one partition, then doing rm -rf * without
 involve the second partition, rm will finish quickly.

 Has anyone obseved this behave on 8.0-RC?

 -Jin

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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Thomas Ronner


On 18 Nov 2009, at 10:17, Gerrit Kühn wrote:


Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card


All my childhood traumas magically went away when I bought this card.  
Recommended!



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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:05:45AM +, Pete French wrote:
  better driver for this marvell chip. If someone gets to port it to
  FreeBSD, the card may be pretty decent choice for those who have PCI-X
  slot on-board.
 
 I have PCI-X and just purchased an unbranded card based
 on the SiL3124 chipset, as I was only using SATA 1 before.
 I didn't expect much, but it's actually suprisingly fast.
 Certainly a lot better than I expected - I've only had it
 a week, but so far I would recommend it.
 
 Mind you, this is my first real forray onto the world of non-SCSI
 controllers so if I just bought a nightmare chipset with loads of
 known issues then please tell me :-)

I tend to avoid Silicon Image as a result of their 3112 snafu.  I'm
generally not that impressed by their 3114 and 3512 chips either, but
the 3112 problem is severe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Image_Inc.#Product_alerts

The 3124 and later revisions are supposedly decent, but I've avoided
them due to their history (I stick to Intel ICHx controllers + AHCI and
don't bother with hardware RAID).

Avoiding SIMG is difficult though, since they're used on most consumer
and/or residential products, and are even more common when it comes to
external hard drive enclosures (USB, Firewire, or otherwise) or similar
devices.  But it's the 3112 you have to watch out for.

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Re: 8.0-RC3 USB lock up on mounting two partitions from one USB drive

2009-11-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:13:32PM +0100, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
 I'm not sure if this is an USB issue or not. If you get READ/WRITE errors and 
 the drive simply dies then it might be the case. Else it is a system issue.

The OP should be able to use smartmontools to obtain SMART stats from
the SATA drive within the USB enclosure.  The command will be somewhat
funky, given that the drive is ATA but is mapped through CAM on FreeBSD
and appears as a daX disk.

I believe the following should work, but I have no way to test:

smartctl --device=ata -a /dev/da0

You should check your console logs (dmesg) before and after running
this command, as there may be sense key errors from CAM which can help
determine if SMART is passed through or not.

There's mention in the smartctl man page of a device type called sat
which is an ATA-SCSI emulation layer, but I believe it's the Linux
equivalent of our CAM.

Recent (in the past ~24 hours) commits to the RELENG_8 branch might
provide native capability for smartctl to work without the --type
argument, since mav@ has been improving the CAM layer to work with ATA
disks.

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Re: 8.0-RC3 USB lock up on mounting two partitions from one USB drive

2009-11-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:13:32PM +0100, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
 I'm not sure if this is an USB issue or not. If you get READ/WRITE errors 
 and 
 the drive simply dies then it might be the case. Else it is a system issue.
 
 The OP should be able to use smartmontools to obtain SMART stats from
 the SATA drive within the USB enclosure.  The command will be somewhat
 funky, given that the drive is ATA but is mapped through CAM on FreeBSD
 and appears as a daX disk.
 
 I believe the following should work, but I have no way to test:
 
 smartctl --device=ata -a /dev/da0
 
 You should check your console logs (dmesg) before and after running
 this command, as there may be sense key errors from CAM which can help
 determine if SMART is passed through or not.
 
 There's mention in the smartctl man page of a device type called sat
 which is an ATA-SCSI emulation layer, but I believe it's the Linux
 equivalent of our CAM.
 
 Recent (in the past ~24 hours) commits to the RELENG_8 branch might
 provide native capability for smartctl to work without the --type
 argument, since mav@ has been improving the CAM layer to work with ATA
 disks.
 

Does not work for my external Seagate FreeAgent Go 500G USB2.0 drive

%smartctl -a /dev/da0
smartctl version 5.38 [i386-portbld-freebsd8.0] Copyright (C) 2002-8
Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Device: Seagate  FreeAgent GoVersion: 102D
Device type: disk
Local Time is: Wed Nov 18 21:22:01 2009 KRAT
Device does not support SMART

Error Counter logging not supported
Device does not support Self Test logging

%smartctl --device=ata /dev/da0
smartctl version 5.38 [i386-portbld-freebsd8.0] Copyright (C) 2002-8
Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Smartctl: Device Read Identity Failed (not an ATA/ATAPI device)

A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
'-T permissive' options.

%smartctl --device=ata -T permissive /dev/da0
smartctl version 5.38 [i386-portbld-freebsd8.0] Copyright (C) 2002-8
Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Smartctl: Device Read Identity Failed (not an ATA/ATAPI device)

SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 82-83 don't show
if SMART supported.
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
'-T permissive' options
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Re: boot issues

2009-11-18 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 2:19:45 am Randy Bush wrote:
 [ this happened a month ago and i backed off ]
 
 i386, 7.2-stable from last summer
 
 cvsupped releng_7
 made and installed kernel
 buildworld
 boot -s
 installworld
 mergemaster
 reboot
 
 hung after beastie, just as it did the other month
 
 booted -s
 mount -2 /
 /etc/rc.d/hostid start
 /etc/rc.d/zfs start
 looked around and all seemed ok
 ^D
 came up ok
 
 and that is how it is running now
 
 but why will it boot through -s and not from beastie?

Err, so what happens if you break into the boot loader prompt (option 6 IIRC) 
and then just type 'boot', how far does it get before it hangs?

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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Freddie Cash
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Rink Springer r...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:38:21PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
 I've also found a couple of Areca cards (PCI-X, non-RAID/PCIe RAID),
 and have heard good things about Areca support in FreeBSD.  Any
 comments on their quality/performance/reliability?

 I have got an Areca ARC-1110 4x SATA2 PCI-X card in my server, and I'm
 quite impressed with the performance; these cards do very well in terms
 I/O operations per second and the driver has been rock solid for me. The
 only downside is that they are quite expensive (but well worth it, IMO)

Compared to a 3Ware 9550SXU controller, these are cheap.  The Areca is
only $500 (open-box) or $700 (new) on newegg.ca.  The 3Ware cards are
over $1000, with the PCIe versions being over $1200 (which is what
started me on this journey -- hardware budgets are getting smaller and
smaller each year).

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Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2009-11-18 Thread David Kelly
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 01:07:46AM -0800, Andrei Antoukh wrote:
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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Freddie Cash
2009/11/18 Gerrit Kühn ger...@pmp.uni-hannover.de:
 On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:29:06 -0800 Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote
 about Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters:

 FC Any recommendations on other SAS/SATA controllers to look at (just not
 FC anything with MegaRAID in the name)?

 I installed a Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card here some days ago. Should be
 even cheaper than the ones you mentioned and comes with a LSI chip
 supported by mpt driver:

 m...@pci0:6:0:0:        class=0x01 card=0xa68015d9 chip=0x00581000
 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 vendor     = 'LSI Logic (Was: Symbios Logic, NCR)'
    device     = 'SAS 3000 series, 8-port with 1068E -StorPort'
    class      = mass storage
    subclass   = SCSI

 I only installed it last week and cannot comment much on performance and
 stability up to now.

These look nice, and are in the $200-300 CDN range.  Have the same
mini-SAS connectors as the 3Ware cards we use, so wouldn't have to
re-cable the chassis.

Are you using these as standard disk controllers, or are you using the
RAID features (seems it supports RAID0 and RAID1 in hardware, RAID5 in
software)?  Reading through the manual right now, and it doesn't cover
using the card in non-RAID modes.  Wondering if the drives would show
up as normal da0 da1 da2 etc.

All of these (there's a couple variations on the card) appear to be
PCIe, though, no PCI-X.  We have 24 drive bays, and only 2 PCIe slots.
 Have 3 PCI-X slots, though, so would need at least 1 PCI-X
controller.

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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Gerrit Kühn
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:56:14 -0800 Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote
about Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters:

FC  I installed a Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card here some days ago.
FC  Should be even cheaper than the ones you mentioned and comes with a
FC  LSI chip supported by mpt driver:

FC  m...@pci0:6:0:0:        class=0x01 card=0xa68015d9
FC  chip=0x00581000 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 vendor     = 'LSI Logic (Was:
FC  Symbios Logic, NCR)' device     = 'SAS 3000 series, 8-port with
FC  1068E -StorPort' class      = mass storage
FC     subclass   = SCSI

FC  I only installed it last week and cannot comment much on performance
FC  and stability up to now.

FC These look nice, and are in the $200-300 CDN range.  Have the same
FC mini-SAS connectors as the 3Ware cards we use, so wouldn't have to
FC re-cable the chassis.

Hm, I don't know the recent exchange rate, but are you sure this is the
same card? I paid something like 80,-€ (excl. VAT).

FC Are you using these as standard disk controllers, or are you using the
FC RAID features (seems it supports RAID0 and RAID1 in hardware, RAID5 in
FC software)?  Reading through the manual right now, and it doesn't cover
FC using the card in non-RAID modes.  Wondering if the drives would show
FC up as normal da0 da1 da2 etc.

I think my card does not have the raid features included, maybe that's why
it was so cheap. The devices appear as normal scsi disks:

dmesg:
da0 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device
da0: 300.000MB/s transfers
da0: Command Queueing enabled
da0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C)
[...]

cliff# camcontrol devlist
ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass0)
ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (da1,pass1)
ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01at scbus0 target 2 lun 0 (da2,pass2)
ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01at scbus0 target 3 lun 0 (da3,pass3)
ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01at scbus0 target 4 lun 0 (da4,pass4)
ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01at scbus0 target 5 lun 0 (da5,pass5)
ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01at scbus0 target 6 lun 0 (da6,pass6)
ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01at scbus0 target 7 lun 0 (da7,pass7)

FC All of these (there's a couple variations on the card) appear to be
FC PCIe, though, no PCI-X.  We have 24 drive bays, and only 2 PCIe slots.
FC Have 3 PCI-X slots, though, so would need at least 1 PCI-X
FC controller.

I guess the version of the card I have here was actually intended to be
used in some kind of special Supermirco-Extension Slot. However, it fits
into a standard PCIe slot and works nicely there as far as I can tell.
Do you have the opportunity of using a riser card that would give you one
more slot?


cu
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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Steve Polyack

Freddie Cash wrote:

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Rink Springer r...@freebsd.org wrote:
  

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:38:21PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:


I've also found a couple of Areca cards (PCI-X, non-RAID/PCIe RAID),
and have heard good things about Areca support in FreeBSD.  Any
comments on their quality/performance/reliability?
  

I have got an Areca ARC-1110 4x SATA2 PCI-X card in my server, and I'm
quite impressed with the performance; these cards do very well in terms
I/O operations per second and the driver has been rock solid for me. The
only downside is that they are quite expensive (but well worth it, IMO)



Compared to a 3Ware 9550SXU controller, these are cheap.  The Areca is
only $500 (open-box) or $700 (new) on newegg.ca.  The 3Ware cards are
over $1000, with the PCIe versions being over $1200 (which is what
started me on this journey -- hardware budgets are getting smaller and
smaller each year).

  
We've also tried the Areca cards with FreeBSD - the Areca 
ARC-1680IX-12-2G PCIe x8 card to be precise.  It's a SAS/SATA RAID 
card.  The performance was very impressive.  MUCH better than the Dell 
PERC4/5/6s we were used to.  The drivers also seemed to be rock solid 
(FreeBSD is even listed as a supported OS on the company's website).  
The feature-set of the card itself is also very rich... The one we tried 
had its own OOB management via serial port or dedicated 100mbps ethernet 
jack.  It supports endless combinations of RAID arrays, volumes, and 
SMTP/SNMP alerts.

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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Freddie Cash
2009/11/18 Gerrit Kühn ger...@pmp.uni-hannover.de:
 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:56:14 -0800 Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote
 about Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters:

 FC  I installed a Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card here some days ago.
 FC  Should be even cheaper than the ones you mentioned and comes with a
 FC  LSI chip supported by mpt driver:

 FC  m...@pci0:6:0:0:        class=0x01 card=0xa68015d9
 FC  chip=0x00581000 rev=0x08 hdr=0x00 vendor     = 'LSI Logic (Was:
 FC  Symbios Logic, NCR)' device     = 'SAS 3000 series, 8-port with
 FC  1068E -StorPort' class      = mass storage
 FC     subclass   = SCSI

 FC  I only installed it last week and cannot comment much on performance
 FC  and stability up to now.

 FC These look nice, and are in the $200-300 CDN range.  Have the same
 FC mini-SAS connectors as the 3Ware cards we use, so wouldn't have to
 FC re-cable the chassis.

 Hm, I don't know the recent exchange rate, but are you sure this is the
 same card? I paid something like 80,-€ (excl. VAT).

Oops, you're right, was reading the model numbers wrong.  The
LSI1068-based one is only $129 CDN, the Intel IOP-based ones are
$200-300 CDN.

Last time I checked the Euro was in the $1.50-2.00 CDN range.

 FC Are you using these as standard disk controllers, or are you using the
 FC RAID features (seems it supports RAID0 and RAID1 in hardware, RAID5 in
 FC software)?  Reading through the manual right now, and it doesn't cover
 FC using the card in non-RAID modes.  Wondering if the drives would show
 FC up as normal da0 da1 da2 etc.

 I think my card does not have the raid features included, maybe that's why
 it was so cheap. The devices appear as normal scsi disks:

 dmesg:
 da0 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: ATA WDC WD5001ABYS-0 1D01 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device
 da0: 300.000MB/s transfers
 da0: Command Queueing enabled
 da0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C)
 [...]

Nice.  Thanks for the output.

 FC All of these (there's a couple variations on the card) appear to be
 FC PCIe, though, no PCI-X.  We have 24 drive bays, and only 2 PCIe slots.
 FC Have 3 PCI-X slots, though, so would need at least 1 PCI-X
 FC controller.

 I guess the version of the card I have here was actually intended to be
 used in some kind of special Supermirco-Extension Slot. However, it fits
 into a standard PCIe slot and works nicely there as far as I can tell.
 Do you have the opportunity of using a riser card that would give you one
 more slot?

Urgh, I have yet to find a riser card that will plug into a Tyan
motherboard and not cause issues.  Due to all the issues we've had
with riser cards in the past, we have sworn off all riser cards.  For
our 2U servers, we use low-profile cards to avoid risers.

I'll keep looking for a PCI-X card.  These look like they'll cover our
PCIe needs.

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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Barry Pederson

Gerrit Kühn wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:56:14 -0800 Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote
about Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters:

FC  I installed a Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card here some days ago.
FC  Should be even cheaper than the ones you mentioned and comes with a
FC  LSI chip supported by mpt driver:


I guess the version of the card I have here was actually intended to be
used in some kind of special Supermirco-Extension Slot. However, it fits
into a standard PCIe slot and works nicely there as far as I can tell.
Do you have the opportunity of using a riser card that would give you one
more slot?


Those Supermicro UIO cards look like backwards PCIe cards.  Do they come 
with other brackets for fitting into a PCIe slot, or did you have to go 
bracketless?


The online manual at

  http://www.supermicro.com/manuals/other/AOC-USASLP-L8i.pdf

didn't mention anything about brackets or how it'd work in PCIe slots.

Barry
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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Brian Whalen

Freddie Cash wrote:

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Rink Springer r...@freebsd.org wrote:

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:38:21PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:

I've also found a couple of Areca cards (PCI-X, non-RAID/PCIe RAID),
and have heard good things about Areca support in FreeBSD.  Any
comments on their quality/performance/reliability?

I have got an Areca ARC-1110 4x SATA2 PCI-X card in my server, and I'm
quite impressed with the performance; these cards do very well in terms
I/O operations per second and the driver has been rock solid for me. The
only downside is that they are quite expensive (but well worth it, IMO)


Compared to a 3Ware 9550SXU controller, these are cheap.  The Areca is
only $500 (open-box) or $700 (new) on newegg.ca.  The 3Ware cards are
over $1000, with the PCIe versions being over $1200 (which is what
started me on this journey -- hardware budgets are getting smaller and
smaller each year).



The 3ware cards are not that expensive unless you need a truckload of ports.

For the 9650SE on newegg.com;
2 port is 185
4 port is 324
8 port is 525
12 port is 669

Where are you getting the 1200 dollar price from?
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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:37:03AM -0600, Barry Pederson wrote:
 Gerrit Kühn wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:56:14 -0800 Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote
 about Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters:
 
 FC  I installed a Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card here some days ago.
 FC  Should be even cheaper than the ones you mentioned and comes with a
 FC  LSI chip supported by mpt driver:
 
 
 I guess the version of the card I have here was actually intended to be
 used in some kind of special Supermirco-Extension Slot. However, it fits
 into a standard PCIe slot and works nicely there as far as I can tell.
 Do you have the opportunity of using a riser card that would give you one
 more slot?
 
 Those Supermicro UIO cards look like backwards PCIe cards.  Do they
 come with other brackets for fitting into a PCIe slot, or did you
 have to go bracketless?
 
 The online manual at
 
   http://www.supermicro.com/manuals/other/AOC-USASLP-L8i.pdf
 
 didn't mention anything about brackets or how it'd work in PCIe slots.

Supermicro UIO slots will adapt to whatever adapter you stick in them
which are labelled compatible with said motherboard.

The UIO slot itself is proprietary, but provides pinout interfaces
to support both PCIe 1x, 4x, and 8x, as well as PCI (32-bit and
64-bit), and PCI-X (presumably 100 and 133MHz).  But ultimately it
depends on what board offers what pinouts through the UIO slot.

Rather than document it, here's how it works in the Real World(tm):

- We need a PCIe x8 on our X7SBi for a low-profile RAID card
- X7SBi motherboard has a UIO slot:
  http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBA.cfm
- UIO slot on this board supports one of the following, depending
  on which riser you buy:
  - (1) PCIe x8
  - (1) PCI-X 133MHz (64-bit).
- Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you'll find:
  - CSE-RR1U-ELi -- 1U PCI-E x8 Riser Card for X7SBi 
- Visit Supermicro's Accessories page, and select Riser Cards:
  http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/Riser/riser.aspx
- Search for CSE-RR1U-ELi, and you find:
  http://www.supermicro.com/a_images/products/Accessories/CSE-RR1U-ELi.jpg
- Contact Supermicro distributor (whoever you got the server from, or
  you can contact Supermicro directly to help find a distributor for
  you) and get the CSE-RR1U-ELi.  Some online retailers do sell these
  risers too.
- Costs about US$11.
- Buy it, install it, mount the card in it, enjoy.

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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:00:27AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:37:03AM -0600, Barry Pederson wrote:
  Gerrit Kühn wrote:
  On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:56:14 -0800 Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote
  about Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters:
  
  FC  I installed a Supermicro AOC-USASLP-L8i card here some days ago.
  FC  Should be even cheaper than the ones you mentioned and comes with a
  FC  LSI chip supported by mpt driver:
  
  
  I guess the version of the card I have here was actually intended to be
  used in some kind of special Supermirco-Extension Slot. However, it fits
  into a standard PCIe slot and works nicely there as far as I can tell.
  Do you have the opportunity of using a riser card that would give you one
  more slot?
  
  Those Supermicro UIO cards look like backwards PCIe cards.  Do they
  come with other brackets for fitting into a PCIe slot, or did you
  have to go bracketless?
  
  The online manual at
  
http://www.supermicro.com/manuals/other/AOC-USASLP-L8i.pdf
  
  didn't mention anything about brackets or how it'd work in PCIe slots.
 
 Supermicro UIO slots will adapt to whatever adapter you stick in them
 which are labelled compatible with said motherboard.
 
 The UIO slot itself is proprietary, but provides pinout interfaces
 to support both PCIe 1x, 4x, and 8x, as well as PCI (32-bit and
 64-bit), and PCI-X (presumably 100 and 133MHz).  But ultimately it
 depends on what board offers what pinouts through the UIO slot.
 
 Rather than document it, here's how it works in the Real World(tm):
 
 - We need a PCIe x8 on our X7SBi for a low-profile RAID card
 - X7SBi motherboard has a UIO slot:
   http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBA.cfm
 - UIO slot on this board supports one of the following, depending
   on which riser you buy:
   - (1) PCIe x8
   - (1) PCI-X 133MHz (64-bit).
 - Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you'll find:
   - CSE-RR1U-ELi -- 1U PCI-E x8 Riser Card for X7SBi 
 - Visit Supermicro's Accessories page, and select Riser Cards:
   http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/Riser/riser.aspx
 - Search for CSE-RR1U-ELi, and you find:
   http://www.supermicro.com/a_images/products/Accessories/CSE-RR1U-ELi.jpg
 - Contact Supermicro distributor (whoever you got the server from, or
   you can contact Supermicro directly to help find a distributor for
   you) and get the CSE-RR1U-ELi.  Some online retailers do sell these
   risers too.
 - Costs about US$11.
 - Buy it, install it, mount the card in it, enjoy.

By the way, I'll add that the AOC-USASLP-L8i is **not** compatible with
the UIO riser/adapter for the X7SBi.  This should be apparent just from
examining the location of the PCIe x8 slot on the RAID card vs.  where
the CSE-RR1U-ELi PCIe x8 slot is located.

You'll find what boards the AOC-USASLP-L8i is compatible with, UIO
riser-wise, here:

http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm

So in general, make sure whatever Supermicro card (RAID, Ethernet, SAS,
SCSI, whatever) you're going with is indeed compatible with whatever
Supermicro board you stick it in.

Best thing to do is contact Supermicro Technical Support and ask.  Their
TS folks are better than average; I can get full specifications for ICs
out of them, while I've never been able to achieve this with Tyan.
Rackable (who uses Tyan mainboards) might have better luck.  :-)

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libdispatch on 8-Stable or 9-Current

2009-11-18 Thread Tom Pusateri
I've been trying to build the libdispatch port on FreeBSD 8-STABLE but not 
having much luck. I used the instructions here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/GCD

They say to install 8.0-RC3 and then update the sources to FreeBSD 8-STABLE.

I set my cvsup tag to:

*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_8

and rebuilt the world but kern.osreldate didn't change. Its still 800107 which 
won't allow the port to build.

Is there a different cvs tag I should be using or do I have to go to 9-CURRENT?

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Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2009-11-18 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Nov-18 10:13:17 -0600, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote:
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 01:07:46AM -0800, Andrei Antoukh wrote:
 LinkedIn
 
 
 Andrei Antoukh requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
 --

Why isn't LinkedIn in FreeBSD.org's spam blocker?

I have raised this with postmaster@ and he is investigating how to
block this spam.

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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Jeremy Chadwick
free...@jdc.parodius.com wrote:
 By the way, I'll add that the AOC-USASLP-L8i is **not** compatible with
 the UIO riser/adapter for the X7SBi.  This should be apparent just from
 examining the location of the PCIe x8 slot on the RAID card vs.  where
 the CSE-RR1U-ELi PCIe x8 slot is located.

 You'll find what boards the AOC-USASLP-L8i is compatible with, UIO
 riser-wise, here:

 http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm

 So in general, make sure whatever Supermicro card (RAID, Ethernet, SAS,
 SCSI, whatever) you're going with is indeed compatible with whatever
 Supermicro board you stick it in.

 Best thing to do is contact Supermicro Technical Support and ask.  Their
 TS folks are better than average; I can get full specifications for ICs
 out of them, while I've never been able to achieve this with Tyan.
 Rackable (who uses Tyan mainboards) might have better luck.  :-)

Ah, in that case, it's not a solution for us.  We use Tyan
motherboards for pretty much everything, and have never had any luck
with any kind of riser card, whether it be in a standard PCI slot or a
PCI-X slot.

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fjwc...@gmail.com
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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Brian Whalen br...@brianwhalen.net wrote:
 Freddie Cash wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Rink Springer r...@freebsd.org wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:38:21PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
 I've also found a couple of Areca cards (PCI-X, non-RAID/PCIe RAID),
 and have heard good things about Areca support in FreeBSD.  Any
 comments on their quality/performance/reliability?

 I have got an Areca ARC-1110 4x SATA2 PCI-X card in my server, and I'm
 quite impressed with the performance; these cards do very well in terms
 I/O operations per second and the driver has been rock solid for me. The
 only downside is that they are quite expensive (but well worth it, IMO)

 Compared to a 3Ware 9550SXU controller, these are cheap.  The Areca is
 only $500 (open-box) or $700 (new) on newegg.ca.  The 3Ware cards are
 over $1000, with the PCIe versions being over $1200 (which is what
 started me on this journey -- hardware budgets are getting smaller and
 smaller each year).

 The 3ware cards are not that expensive unless you need a truckload of ports.

 For the 9650SE on newegg.com;
 2 port is 185
 4 port is 324
 8 port is 525
 12 port is 669

 Where are you getting the 1200 dollar price from?

We deal in Canadian dollars.  :)  Our hardware purchaser spent several
hours on the phone and web looking for a replacement 9650SE-12ML
(12-port, multi-lane, PCIe).  Every place she checked showed them as
$1000-1200.  We need the -12ML (or -16ML) for one server, as it's
actually using the RAID features, and the controller in that server
died (scorch marks on the heat sink).  As that server was using RAID6,
we couldn't replace it with any of the 9550s we have as spares.  :(

We have three servers using these cards.  Only 1 is actually using the
RAID features.  The other two are ZFS storage servers.  Going forward,
we will be putting in more ZFS systems than non-ZFS systems, so we
don't need as fancy of controller.  Just lots of ports (or lots of
cards, we have 3 PCI-X and 2 PCIe slots to work with).

-- 
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fjwc...@gmail.com
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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Barry Pederson

Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

The UIO slot itself is proprietary, but provides pinout interfaces
to support both PCIe 1x, 4x, and 8x, as well as PCI (32-bit and
64-bit), and PCI-X (presumably 100 and 133MHz).  But ultimately it
depends on what board offers what pinouts through the UIO slot.

Rather than document it, here's how it works in the Real World(tm):

- We need a PCIe x8 on our X7SBi for a low-profile RAID card
- X7SBi motherboard has a UIO slot:
  http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBA.cfm
- UIO slot on this board supports one of the following, depending
  on which riser you buy:
  - (1) PCIe x8
  - (1) PCI-X 133MHz (64-bit).
- Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you'll find:
  - CSE-RR1U-ELi -- 1U PCI-E x8 Riser Card for X7SBi 
- Visit Supermicro's Accessories page, and select Riser Cards:

  http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/Riser/riser.aspx
- Search for CSE-RR1U-ELi, and you find:
  http://www.supermicro.com/a_images/products/Accessories/CSE-RR1U-ELi.jpg
- Contact Supermicro distributor (whoever you got the server from, or
  you can contact Supermicro directly to help find a distributor for
  you) and get the CSE-RR1U-ELi.  Some online retailers do sell these
  risers too.
- Costs about US$11.
- Buy it, install it, mount the card in it, enjoy.


By the way, I'll add that the AOC-USASLP-L8i is **not** compatible with
the UIO riser/adapter for the X7SBi.  This should be apparent just from
examining the location of the PCIe x8 slot on the RAID card vs.  where
the CSE-RR1U-ELi PCIe x8 slot is located.

You'll find what boards the AOC-USASLP-L8i is compatible with, UIO
riser-wise, here:

http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-USASLP-L8i.cfm

So in general, make sure whatever Supermicro card (RAID, Ethernet, SAS,
SCSI, whatever) you're going with is indeed compatible with whatever
Supermicro board you stick it in.

Best thing to do is contact Supermicro Technical Support and ask.  Their
TS folks are better than average; I can get full specifications for ICs
out of them, while I've never been able to achieve this with Tyan.
Rackable (who uses Tyan mainboards) might have better luck.  :-)




Thanks for the info.  I have no doubt a Supermicro HBA will work in a 
Supermicro motherboard and chassis given the correct Supermicro risers 
or other accessories.


What I was questioning was where the OP said: it fits into a standard 
PCIe slot and works nicely there as far as I can tell - which to me 
sounds like you could use this HBA in a *NON-Supermicro* motherboard.


I was just wondering if that was truly the case, given how in the photos 
it looks to be arranged physically backwards from a regular PCIe card, 
and given how you mention The UIO slot itself is proprietary.


But some more digging on Google has turned up a few mentions along the 
lines of:



  This card plugs into a normal PCIe 8x slot but the
  metal mounting bracket bolted to the card is made
  for a UIO slot (which is why it's so cheap).

  All you have to do is remove the metal bracket and
  zip-tie the card to your case for mechanical support.
  Electrically it'll work fine in a PCIe x8 or x16 slot.


If someone wanted to make PCIe compatible brackets for this affordable 
card, they'd probably sell a fair number to small shops or home users.


Barry
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Re: Support for SAS/SATA non-RAID adapters

2009-11-18 Thread Jonathan

On 11/17/2009 7:29 PM, Freddie Cash wrote:

   LSI SAS 3081E-R8-port SAS/SATA PCIe


I've had excellent luck with LSI cards in a moderate usage home 
environment.  I've had the 3041 and 3081 and never had any issues with 
either card.  I've never really stress tested them for performance with 
anything other than doing a zpool scrub on them but they've handled 
everything I've tried to do just fine.  Hot swap also works correctly.


Jonathan
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RE: 8.0-RC3 USB lock up on mounting two partitions from one USB drive

2009-11-18 Thread Guojun Jin
It looks like a system issue since it also happens to the SATA drive. 
The USB drive seems having more difficulty. I will back up rest
partitions,
Then redo the slice and partition to see if problem goes away.
If so, then 8.0-R has a backward compatibility issue on the partition
table or format to older FreeBSD release.

-Original Message-
From: Hans Petter Selasky [mailto:hsela...@c2i.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:14 AM
To: freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Cc: Guojun Jin; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: 8.0-RC3 USB lock up on mounting two partitions from one USB
drive

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is an USB issue or not. If you get READ/WRITE
errors and 
the drive simply dies then it might be the case. Else it is a system
issue.

There are quirks for mass storage which you can add to 
sys/dev/usb/storage/umass.c .

--HPS

On Wednesday 18 November 2009 08:33:07 Guojun Jin wrote:
 Did newfs on those partition and made things worsen -- restore
completely
 fails: (I had experienced another similar problem on an IDE, which
works
 well for 6.4 and 7.2, but 8.0.) This dirve works fine under FreeBSD
6.4.

 Is something new in 8.0 making disk partition schema changed?

 g_vfs_done():da0s3d[READ(offset=98304, length=16384)]error = 6
 g_vfs_done():da0s3d[WRITE(offset=192806912, length=16384)]error = 6
 fopen: Device not configured
 cannot create save file ./restoresymtable for symbol table
 abort? [yn] (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status
==
 0xa, scs i status == 0x0
 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry
 ugen1.2: DMI at usbus1
 umass0: DMI Ultra HDD, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.19, addr 2 on usbus1
 umass0:  SCSI over Bulk-Only; quirks = 0x
 umass0:0:0:-1: Attached to scbus0
 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 da0: DMI Ultra HDD 1.19 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
 da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
 da0: 114473MB (234441648 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 14593C)
 Device da0s3d went missing before all of the data could be written to
it;
 expect data loss.

 99  23:19   sysinstall
100  23:20   newfs /dev/da0s3d
101  23:20   newfs /dev/da0s3e
102  23:21   mount /dev/da0s3d /mnt
103  23:21   cd /mnt
104  23:21   dump -0f - /home | restore -rf -
105  23:27   history 15



 -Original Message-
 From: Guojun Jin
 Sent: Tue 11/17/2009 11:05 PM
 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org; freebsd-...@freebsd.org
 Subject: 8.0-RC3 USB lock up on mounting two partitions from one USB
drive

 When mounting two partitions from a USB dirve, it can cause the drive
 access lock up for a long time. Details:

 Terminal 1 --
 term1# mount /dev/da0s3d  /mnt
 term1# cd /mnt ; rm -fr *

 when rm starts, go to terminal 2 and do:

 term2# mount /dev/da0s3e /dist ### this will hanging for a long time
and
 USB hard drive activity light is off. After more than 1-2 minutes,
mount
 returns, and the drive activity light is blinking, thus removing is
going
 on.

 term2# ls /dist   ### this will cause dUSB dirve hanging again -- no
 avtivity. Similarly, ls will finish in a couple of miniutes or longer,
the
 rm command continues; but for a while, the drive activity will stop
again.

 Reboot machine, repeat the above steps, and result will be the same.
Reboot
 machine again, and just mount one partition, then doing rm -rf *
without
 involve the second partition, rm will finish quickly.

 Has anyone obseved this behave on 8.0-RC?

 -Jin

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bug with some em nics on RELENG_7

2009-11-18 Thread Mike Tancsa


On two Intel chipset Supermicro boards (X8STi and X8STE-0) using the 
onboard em nics (dmesg info below), I seem to have run into an issue 
where if I boot the box up with the cables unplugged, I cannot get 
the NICS to properly work post boot up.  This is quite repeatable for 
me. So at boot time, I have


# ifconfig em5
em5: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:30:48:d6:ef:13
inet 3.3.3.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 3.3.3.255
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier


I then ping something that would be across the wire while the nic is 
down. e.g. ping 3.3.3.1


I then plug in the cable so that the other side has 3.3.3.1

ifconfig shows all looks good

# ifconfig em5
em5: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:30:48:d6:ef:13
inet 3.3.3.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 3.3.3.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex)
status: active

I try and ping 3.3.3.1 which is on xover (via a switch shows the same 
behaviour), and no response to the pings BUT, I do see the MAC addr show up

# ping -c 2 -S 3.3.3.3 3.3.3.1
PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from 3.3.3.3: 56 data bytes

--- 3.3.3.1 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
# arp -na
? (3.3.3.1) at 00:30:48:94:88:20 on em5 [ethernet]
? (3.3.3.3) at 00:30:48:d6:ef:13 on em5 permanent [ethernet]

I can see its mac addr ?!?

Furthermore, if I do

# ifconfig em5 3.3.3.55/32 alias

On the other side, I see

0(ich10)# tcpdump -nei igb0
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on igb0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
16:16:03.380886 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype ARP 
(0x0806), length 60: Request who-has 3.3.3.55 tell 3.3.3.55, length 46



and I can ping if I specify the alias as the source IP

# ping -S 3.3.3.55 3.3.3.1
PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from 3.3.3.55: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 3.3.3.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.184 ms
64 bytes from 3.3.3.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.051 ms
64 bytes from 3.3.3.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.055 ms



16:17:01.603345 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  00:30:48:94:88:20, ethertype ARP 
(0x0806), length 60: Reply 3.3.3.55 is-at 00:30:48:d6:ef:13, length 46
16:17:01.603349 00:30:48:94:88:20  00:30:48:d6:ef:13, ethertype IPv4 
(0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.1  3.3.3.55: ICMP echo reply, id 7946, 
seq 0, length 64
16:17:02.603497 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  00:30:48:94:88:20, ethertype IPv4 
(0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.55  3.3.3.1: ICMP echo request, id 7946, 
seq 1, length 64
16:17:02.603502 00:30:48:94:88:20  00:30:48:d6:ef:13, ethertype IPv4 
(0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.1  3.3.3.55: ICMP echo reply, id 7946, 
seq 1, length 64
16:17:03.604510 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  00:30:48:94:88:20, ethertype IPv4 
(0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.55  3.3.3.1: ICMP echo request, id 7946, 
seq 2, length 64
16:17:03.604516 00:30:48:94:88:20  00:30:48:d6:ef:13, ethertype IPv4 
(0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.1  3.3.3.55: ICMP echo reply, id 7946, 
seq 2, length 64




but not using the initial IP addr

0[iolite3A]# ping -S 3.3.3.3 3.3.3.1
PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from 3.3.3.3: 56 data bytes
^C
--- 3.3.3.1 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
#

Yet,

# ping -S 3.3.3.3 3.3.3.1
PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from 3.3.3.3: 56 data bytes
^C
--- 3.3.3.1 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
# ping -S 3.3.3.4 3.3.3.1
PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from 3.3.3.4: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 3.3.3.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.176 ms
64 bytes from 3.3.3.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.050 ms
^C
--- 3.3.3.1 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.050/0.113/0.176/0.063 ms


Strange, eh ?


e...@pci0:6:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
cap 01[c8] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 05[d0] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit
cap 10[e0] = PCI-Express 1 endpoint max data 128(256) link x1(x1)
cap 11[a0] = MSI-X supports 5 messages in map 0x1c enabled
e...@pci0:7:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x10d315d9 chip=0x10d38086 
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
cap 01[c8] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 05[d0] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit
cap 10[e0] = PCI-Express 1 endpoint max data 128(256) link x1(x1)
cap 11[a0] = MSI-X supports 5 messages in map 0x1c enabled


em4: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0xdc00-0xdc1f 
mem 0xfaee-0xfaef,0xfaedc000-0xfaed irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6

em4: Using MSIX 

Re: Re: [solved] Re: Re: Re: diskless - NFS root mount problem

2009-11-18 Thread Tim Judd
On 11/16/09, Mario Pavlov free...@abv.bg wrote:
  indeed you get bonus points if you firewall yourself :)
 and of course this is not the first time I do that so my score is pretty
 good
 however my favourite is to forget about net.inet.ip.forwarding when I
 upgrade routers with many clients :)

 Tim, thanks for your hints...but I don't understand this one:
  2nd, you buildworld and installworld into the diskless root, but never
  use it.  You're using disk space you can reclaim.
 how so I never use it and can reclaim diskspace ?


The Monday's email you sent at 11:22 (by datestamp on gmail), you wrote:

mkdir /storage0/diskless
cd /usr/src
export DESTDIR=/storage0/diskless
make buildworld buildkernel installworld distribution installkernel



---
You clearly 'make buildworld installworld' but your later exports have
/storage0/diskless and /usr being exported.  shouldn't it be either
/storage0/diskless (as a root filesystem and everything underneath it)
or if you want to unecessarily break it up, exporting
/storage0/diskless/usr ?


Understand?
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Re: whats best pracfive for ZFS on a whole disc these days ?

2009-11-18 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
   There's no need to detach anything.

 I'll try it when I get home and see how it goes.

How can I show what partition has what UUID?

gpart list and gpart show do not say..

I suspect if I booted verbose glabel would say but that is a bit 
annoying :)

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Re: whats best pracfive for ZFS on a whole disc these days ?

2009-11-18 Thread Marius Nünnerich
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:15, Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.au wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
   There's no need to detach anything.

 I'll try it when I get home and see how it goes.

 How can I show what partition has what UUID?

 gpart list and gpart show do not say..

 I suspect if I booted verbose glabel would say but that is a bit
 annoying :)

% sysctl -b kern.geom.confdot | dot -Tpng  foo.png
% pkg_which /usr/local/bin/dot
graphviz-2.24.0_1
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Re: libdispatch on 8-Stable or 9-Current

2009-11-18 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Tom Pusateri:
 and rebuilt the world but kern.osreldate didn't change. Its still 800107 
 which won't allow the port to build.

Change the = into a  in libdispatch/Makefile and it will happily build the 
port.
All tests pass.

I'm using a fairly recent clang snapshot for the blocks support.

llvm-devel-2.7.r89141   (made with make BOOTSTRAP=yes makesum  update)
libdispatch-147
compiler-rt-0.r83568

FreeBSD ng.keltia.net 8.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD #6 r199493M: Wed Nov 18 22:33:04 
CET 2009
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Re: HEADS UP: major CAM ATA MFC

2009-11-18 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Alexander Motin:
 Feedbacks are welcome as always.

Working fine from here, on a recent Dell T3500 with ICH8/ICH10 controllers 
(ATA/AHCI).
Thanks a lot!

Disks were renamed from ad{4,6,8} into ada{0,1,2}. I'm using a full-GPT-ZFS
setup here. ZFS mounted all pools w/o any issue and seems to be using the
gptids instead of the /dev/adNp3 partitions.  Swap is not on ZFS but I
added GPT labels with gpart and glabel added the /dev/gpt entries so swap
is fine too.

See below:

ahci0: Intel ICH10 AHCI SATA controller port
0xfe00-0xfe07,0xfe10-0xfe13,0xfe20-0xfe27,0xfe30-0xfe33,0xfec0-0xfedf mem
0xff97-0xff9707ff irq 20 at device 31.2 on pci0
ahci0: [ITHREAD]
ahci0: AHCI v1.20 with 6 3Gbps ports, Port Multiplier not supported
ahcich0: AHCI channel at channel 0 on ahci0
ahcich0: [ITHREAD]
ahcich1: AHCI channel at channel 1 on ahci0
ahcich1: [ITHREAD]
ahcich2: AHCI channel at channel 2 on ahci0
ahcich2: [ITHREAD]
ahcich3: AHCI channel at channel 3 on ahci0
ahcich3: [ITHREAD]
ahcich4: AHCI channel at channel 4 on ahci0
ahcich4: [ITHREAD]
ahcich5: AHCI channel at channel 5 on ahci0
ahcich5: [ITHREAD]
...
(aprobe0:ahcich0:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 
(aprobe1:ahcich1:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 
(aprobe2:ahcich2:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: 
(aprobe3:ahcich3:0:0:0): SIGNATURE: eb14
ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
ada0: ST3320418AS CC44 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers
ada0: Command Queueing enabled
ada0: 305245MB (625142448 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
cd0 at ahcich3 bus 0 scbus3 target 0 lun 0
cd0: PLDS DVD-ROM DH-16D5S VD15 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device 
cd0: 150.000MB/s transfers
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present -
tray closed

ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0
ada1: ST3320418AS CC44 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers
ada1: Command Queueing enabled
ada1: 305245MB (625142448 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
ada2 at ahcich2 bus 0 scbus2 target 0 lun 0
ada2: ST3320418AS CC44 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers
ada2: Command Queueing enabled
ada2: 305245MB (625142448 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)

411 [0:31] robe...@ng:~ swapinfo
Device  1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity
/dev/gpt/swap041943040  4194304 0%
/dev/gpt/swap141943040  4194304 0%
/dev/gpt/swap241943040  4194304 0%
Total125829120 12582912 0%

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Re: HEADS UP: major CAM ATA MFC

2009-11-18 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Jeremy Chadwick:
 I didn't have this problem.  System has AHCI in use, and the kernel is
 built to make use of modular atacore.  Specifically:
 
 # Modular ATA
 device  atacore # Core ATA functionality
 device  ataisa  # ISA bus support
 device  atapci  # PCI bus support; only generic chipset 
 support
 device  ataahci # AHCI SATA
 device  ataintel# Intel

Interesting.  My own kernel config file has the following and ahci.ko is
loaded by loader.conf.  Do I need to change my config to match your own?

ATA and ATAPI devices
device  ata
device  atadisk # ATA disk drives
device  atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
device  atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering

# SCSI peripherals
device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
device  cd  # CD
device  pass# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
device  ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE)

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Re: bug with some em nics on RELENG_7

2009-11-18 Thread Jack Vogel
Hey Mike,

Can you check if you see the same behavior on RELENG 8?

There is a systemic problem having to do with when to enable interrupts that
might be behind this. The em driver does not enable them until
em_init_locked(),
this is because until then its not ready to deal with a TX or RX interrupt.
However,
this means that a Link interrupt also will not be seen, BUT, and here is
where it
gets a bit funny, an call to check link happens in attach, it will be either
true or
false, AND, even if you remove or add a cable after that point, until
interrupts
are enabled the state will not change.

In the days before MSIX one interrupt was for everything so it was
impossible
to change this without a radical rework to the driver design, but I suppose
it
would be possible with MSIX to selectively enable the link one earlier, I
seem
to recall discussions with our Linux crew that made me decide not to pursue
that (its of limited value really).

Not sure why this happens on Hartwell (82574) and not on 82571, that's
an interesting bit, the 82574 is the ONLY interface in the em driver that
has MSIX support, unfortunately its kinda hacked in, but it did not really
fit into the igb driver either for various technical reasons.

What if you boot up, then do NOT ping or anything until the interface is
assigned an address (and so init is run), and the cable is plugged in. If
that happens first does it work?

Do let me know if you can check on 8, if not I can have my validation
engineer try this.

Best regards,

Jack


On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote:


 On two Intel chipset Supermicro boards (X8STi and X8STE-0) using the
 onboard em nics (dmesg info below), I seem to have run into an issue where
 if I boot the box up with the cables unplugged, I cannot get the NICS to
 properly work post boot up.  This is quite repeatable for me. So at boot
 time, I have

 # ifconfig em5
 em5: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:30:48:d6:ef:13
inet 3.3.3.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 3.3.3.255
media: Ethernet autoselect
status: no carrier


 I then ping something that would be across the wire while the nic is down.
 e.g. ping 3.3.3.1

 I then plug in the cable so that the other side has 3.3.3.1

 ifconfig shows all looks good

 # ifconfig em5
 em5: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
ether 00:30:48:d6:ef:13
inet 3.3.3.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 3.3.3.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex)
status: active

 I try and ping 3.3.3.1 which is on xover (via a switch shows the same
 behaviour), and no response to the pings BUT, I do see the MAC addr show
 up
 # ping -c 2 -S 3.3.3.3 3.3.3.1
 PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from 3.3.3.3: 56 data bytes

 --- 3.3.3.1 ping statistics ---
 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
 # arp -na
 ? (3.3.3.1) at 00:30:48:94:88:20 on em5 [ethernet]
 ? (3.3.3.3) at 00:30:48:d6:ef:13 on em5 permanent [ethernet]

 I can see its mac addr ?!?

 Furthermore, if I do

 # ifconfig em5 3.3.3.55/32 alias

 On the other side, I see

 0(ich10)# tcpdump -nei igb0
 tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
 listening on igb0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
 16:16:03.380886 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, ethertype ARP
 (0x0806), length 60: Request who-has 3.3.3.55 tell 3.3.3.55, length 46


 and I can ping if I specify the alias as the source IP

 # ping -S 3.3.3.55 3.3.3.1
 PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from 3.3.3.55: 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 3.3.3.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.184 ms
 64 bytes from 3.3.3.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.051 ms
 64 bytes from 3.3.3.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.055 ms



 16:17:01.603345 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  00:30:48:94:88:20, ethertype ARP
 (0x0806), length 60: Reply 3.3.3.55 is-at 00:30:48:d6:ef:13, length 46
 16:17:01.603349 00:30:48:94:88:20  00:30:48:d6:ef:13, ethertype IPv4
 (0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.1  3.3.3.55: ICMP echo reply, id 7946, seq 0,
 length 64
 16:17:02.603497 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  00:30:48:94:88:20, ethertype IPv4
 (0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.55  3.3.3.1: ICMP echo request, id 7946, seq
 1, length 64
 16:17:02.603502 00:30:48:94:88:20  00:30:48:d6:ef:13, ethertype IPv4
 (0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.1  3.3.3.55: ICMP echo reply, id 7946, seq 1,
 length 64
 16:17:03.604510 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  00:30:48:94:88:20, ethertype IPv4
 (0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.55  3.3.3.1: ICMP echo request, id 7946, seq
 2, length 64
 16:17:03.604516 00:30:48:94:88:20  00:30:48:d6:ef:13, ethertype IPv4
 (0x0800), length 98: 3.3.3.1  3.3.3.55: ICMP echo reply, id 7946, seq 2,
 length 64



 but not using the initial IP addr

 0[iolite3A]# ping -S 3.3.3.3 3.3.3.1
 PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from 3.3.3.3: 56 data 

Re: whats best pracfive for ZFS on a whole disc these days ?

2009-11-18 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Marius Nünnerich wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:15, Daniel O'Connor docon...@gsoft.com.au 
wrote:
  On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
    There's no need to detach anything.
 
  I'll try it when I get home and see how it goes.
 
  How can I show what partition has what UUID?
 
  gpart list and gpart show do not say..
 
  I suspect if I booted verbose glabel would say but that is a bit
  annoying :)

 % sysctl -b kern.geom.confdot | dot -Tpng  foo.png
 % pkg_which /usr/local/bin/dot
 graphviz-2.24.0_1

Ahah, of course, thanks.

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Re: whats best pracfive for ZFS on a whole disc these days ?

2009-11-18 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
   There's no need to detach anything.

 I'll try it when I get home and see how it goes.

Unfortunately I get..

[midget 11:20] ~ sudo zpool replace tank ad4p2 
gptid/6866d8b0-a8ac-11de-8e07-00241dd192cc
cannot use '/dev/gptid/6866d8b0-a8ac-11de-8e07-00241dd192cc': must be a GEOM 
provider or regular file
[midget 11:20] ~ ll /dev/gptid/6866d8b0-a8ac-11de-8e07-00241dd192cc
crw-r-  1 root  operator0, 164 Oct 21 15:34 
/dev/gptid/6866d8b0-a8ac-11de-8e07-00241dd192cc

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Re: bug with some em nics on RELENG_7

2009-11-18 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 07:29 PM 11/18/2009, Jack Vogel wrote:

Hey Mike,

Can you check if you see the same behavior on RELENG 8?


Hi Jack,
Yes, I will reboot the hardware with a RELENG_8 image tomorrow to test



Not sure why this happens on Hartwell (82574) and not on 82571, that's
an interesting bit, the 82574 is the ONLY interface in the em driver that
has MSIX support, unfortunately its kinda hacked in, but it did not really
fit into the igb driver either for various technical reasons.


Is this the FILTER vs ITHREAD ? Is there a way to force this 
chipset to use the same logic as 82571s ?


# dmesg |grep ^em
em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0xbc00-0xbc1f 
mem 0xface-0xfacf,0xfacc-0xfacd irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1

em0: Using MSI interrupt
em0: [FILTER]
em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:78:e6:e0
em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0xb880-0xb89f 
mem 0xfac8-0xfac9,0xfac6-0xfac7 irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci1

em1: Using MSI interrupt
em1: [FILTER]
em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:78:e6:e1
em2: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0xcc00-0xcc1f 
mem 0xfade-0xfadf,0xfadc-0xfadd irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3

em2: Using MSI interrupt
em2: [FILTER]
em2: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:cf:26:de
em3: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0xc880-0xc89f 
mem 0xfad8-0xfad9,0xfad6-0xfad7 irq 17 at device 0.1 on pci3

em3: Using MSI interrupt
em3: [FILTER]
em3: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:cf:26:df
em4: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0xdc00-0xdc1f 
mem 0xfaee-0xfaef,0xfaedc000-0xfaed irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci6

em4: Using MSIX interrupts
em4: [ITHREAD]
em4: [ITHREAD]
em4: [ITHREAD]
em4: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:d6:ef:12
em5: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 6.9.6 port 0xec00-0xec1f 
mem 0xfafe-0xfaff,0xfafdc000-0xfafd irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci7

em5: Using MSIX interrupts
em5: [ITHREAD]
em5: [ITHREAD]
em5: [ITHREAD]
em5: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:d6:ef:13






What if you boot up, then do NOT ping or anything until the interface is
assigned an address (and so init is run), and the cable is plugged in. If
that happens first does it work?


yes.  If I have the cables plugged in and reboot the box, its ok.  I 
am pretty sure all is ok if I boot it up, with no address assigned, 
plug the cables in, and then assign addr.
 I havent tested it out yet, but not sure how things play out when 
the ports are connected to a switch that is not in portfast mode, so 
the carrier does not always come up right away. The other thing I saw 
was that the NIC was getting stuck with the carrier showing up, even 
though cable was unplugged.  However, I was not able to find the 
exact conditions this happened.





Do let me know if you can check on 8, if not I can have my validation
engineer try this.



I will report back tomorrow.

---Mike



Best regards,

Jack


On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Mike Tancsa 
mailto:m...@sentex.netm...@sentex.net wrote:


On two Intel chipset Supermicro boards (X8STi and X8STE-0) using the 
onboard em nics (dmesg info below), I seem to have run into an issue 
where if I boot the box up with the cables unplugged, I cannot get 
the NICS to properly work post boot up.  This is quite repeatable 
for me. So at boot time, I have


# ifconfig em5
em5: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
   options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
   ether 00:30:48:d6:ef:13
   inet 3.3.3.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 3.3.3.255
   media: Ethernet autoselect
   status: no carrier


I then ping something that would be across the wire while the nic is 
down. e.g. ping 3.3.3.1


I then plug in the cable so that the other side has 3.3.3.1

ifconfig shows all looks good

# ifconfig em5
em5: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
   options=19bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4
   ether 00:30:48:d6:ef:13
   inet 3.3.3.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 3.3.3.255
   media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active

I try and ping 3.3.3.1 which is on xover (via a switch shows the 
same behaviour), and no response to the pings BUT, I do see the 
MAC addr show up

# ping -c 2 -S 3.3.3.3 3.3.3.1
PING 3.3.3.1 (3.3.3.1) from http://3.3.3.33.3.3.3: 56 data bytes

--- 3.3.3.1 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
# arp -na
? (3.3.3.1) at 00:30:48:94:88:20 on em5 [ethernet]
? (3.3.3.3) at 00:30:48:d6:ef:13 on em5 permanent [ethernet]

I can see its mac addr ?!?

Furthermore, if I do

# ifconfig em5 http://3.3.3.55/323.3.3.55/32 alias

On the other side, I see

0(ich10)# tcpdump -nei igb0
tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
listening on igb0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
16:16:03.380886 00:30:48:d6:ef:13  

Re: HEADS UP: major CAM ATA MFC

2009-11-18 Thread Eugene Grosbein
Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

 I didn't have this problem.  System has AHCI in use, and the kernel is
 built to make use of modular atacore.  Specifically:
 
 # Modular ATA
 device  atacore # Core ATA functionality
 device  ataisa  # ISA bus support
 device  atapci  # PCI bus support; only generic chipset 
 support
 device  ataahci # AHCI SATA
 device  ataintel# Intel

How should STABLE user (not tracking freebsd-current@) learn about CAM ATA 
configuration?
There is ahci(4) manual page in 8.0-PRERELEASE but no ada(4) that is linked 
here.

I've just tried Modular ATA configuration of Intel ICH7-based system plus 
device ahci
minus all traditional ata(4) kernel configuration, the kernel builds fine
but boot messages do not show any attempt to detect my SATA HDD,
so root mount just fails (I use GEOM UFS labels in my /etc/fstab).
Typing ? at mounroot prompt I see only daX devices standing for my USB 
cardreader
and no device for HDD.

It seems I miss ada(4) device and I cannot find it in 8.0 - not ada.ko nor 
device ada.

Eugene Grosbein
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Re: Re: Re: [solved] Re: Re: Re: diskless - NFS root mount problem

2009-11-18 Thread Mario Pavlov
 oh yes, I got what you meant now
true, I used /usr from the server because I wanted to have all my ports 
available to the client. Is there a nice way to install ports only in the 
diskless distribution ?

thank you.

Regards
Mario


 On 11/16/09, Mario Pavlov  wrote:
   indeed you get bonus points if you firewall yourself :)
  and of course this is not the first time I do that so my score is pretty
  good
  however my favourite is to forget about net.inet.ip.forwarding when I
  upgrade routers with many clients :)
 
  Tim, thanks for your hints...but I don't understand this one:
   2nd, you buildworld and installworld into the diskless root, but never
   use it.  You're using disk space you can reclaim.
  how so I never use it and can reclaim diskspace ?
 
 
 The Monday's email you sent at 11:22 (by datestamp on gmail), you wrote:
 
 mkdir /storage0/diskless
 cd /usr/src
 export DESTDIR=/storage0/diskless
 make buildworld buildkernel installworld distribution installkernel
 
 
 
 ---
 You clearly 'make buildworld installworld' but your later exports have
 /storage0/diskless and /usr being exported.  shouldn't it be either
 /storage0/diskless (as a root filesystem and everything underneath it)
 or if you want to unecessarily break it up, exporting
 /storage0/diskless/usr ?
 
 
 Understand?
 

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Re: HEADS UP: major CAM ATA MFC

2009-11-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:18:32AM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 
  I didn't have this problem.  System has AHCI in use, and the kernel is
  built to make use of modular atacore.  Specifically:
  
  # Modular ATA
  device  atacore # Core ATA functionality
  device  ataisa  # ISA bus support
  device  atapci  # PCI bus support; only generic chipset 
  support
  device  ataahci # AHCI SATA
  device  ataintel# Intel
 
 How should STABLE user (not tracking freebsd-current@) learn about CAM ATA 
 configuration?
 There is ahci(4) manual page in 8.0-PRERELEASE but no ada(4) that is linked 
 here.

I don't know.  I'm waiting for someone to actually write documentation
on this.  I keep seeing commits talking about ATA disks via CAM (e.g.
SCSI emulation for ATA disks), but the only thing I'm aware of that
exists is SCSI emulation for ATAPI devices.

 I've just tried Modular ATA configuration of Intel ICH7-based system plus 
 device ahci
 minus all traditional ata(4) kernel configuration, the kernel builds fine
 but boot messages do not show any attempt to detect my SATA HDD,
 so root mount just fails (I use GEOM UFS labels in my /etc/fstab).
 Typing ? at mounroot prompt I see only daX devices standing for my USB 
 cardreader
 and no device for HDD.

This sounds like a different problem.  You may want to talk to mav@
about this.

 It seems I miss ada(4) device and I cannot find it in 8.0 - not ada.ko nor 
 device ada.

Same.

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Re: HEADS UP: major CAM ATA MFC

2009-11-18 Thread Adam Vande More

 I don't know.  I'm waiting for someone to actually write documentation
 on this.  I keep seeing commits talking about ATA disks via CAM (e.g.
 SCSI emulation for ATA disks), but the only thing I'm aware of that
 exists is SCSI emulation for ATAPI devices.

  I've just tried Modular ATA configuration of Intel ICH7-based system
 plus device ahci
  minus all traditional ata(4) kernel configuration, the kernel builds fine
  but boot messages do not show any attempt to detect my SATA HDD,
  so root mount just fails (I use GEOM UFS labels in my /etc/fstab).
  Typing ? at mounroot prompt I see only daX devices standing for my USB
 cardreader
  and no device for HDD.

 This sounds like a different problem.  You may want to talk to mav@
 about this.

  It seems I miss ada(4) device and I cannot find it in 8.0 - not ada.ko
 nor device ada.

 Same.


 To enable ahci, put ahci_load=YES into loader.conf.  Upon reboot, drives
will be detected as adaX eg

galacticdominator% dmesg |grep ada
GEOM_STRIPE: Disk ada3 attached to stripe0.
GEOM_STRIPE: Disk ada4 attached to stripe0.
a...@galacticdominator.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
ada0: ST31000528AS CC37 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers
ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
ada0: Native Command Queueing enabled
ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
ada1: ST3750330AS SD15 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers
ada1: 715404MB (1465149168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
ada1: Native Command Queueing enabled
ada2 at ahcich3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
ada2: ST3500320AS AD14 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers
ada2: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
ada2: Native Command Queueing enabled
ada3 at ahcich4 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
ada3: ST3500320AS AD14 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
ada3: 300.000MB/s transfers
ada3: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
ada3: Native Command Queueing enabled
ada4 at ahcich5 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
ada4: ST3750330AS SD15 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
ada4: 300.000MB/s transfers
ada4: 715404MB (1465149168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
ada4: Native Command Queueing enabled

BIOS must be set to ahci controller mode, and obviously both disk and
controller must support it.  This works fine off a GENERIC.

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Re: HEADS UP: major CAM ATA MFC

2009-11-18 Thread Adam Vande More

  To enable ahci, put ahci_load=YES into loader.conf.  Upon reboot, drives
 will be detected as adaX eg

 galacticdominator% dmesg |grep ada
 GEOM_STRIPE: Disk ada3 attached to stripe0.
 GEOM_STRIPE: Disk ada4 attached to stripe0.
 a...@galacticdominator.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada0: ST31000528AS CC37 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device

 ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada0: Native Command Queueing enabled
 ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada1: ST3750330AS SD15 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device

 ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada1: 715404MB (1465149168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada1: Native Command Queueing enabled
 ada2 at ahcich3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada2: ST3500320AS AD14 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device

 ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada2: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada2: Native Command Queueing enabled
 ada3 at ahcich4 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada3: ST3500320AS AD14 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
 ada3: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada3: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada3: Native Command Queueing enabled
 ada4 at ahcich5 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada4: ST3750330AS SD15 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
 ada4: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada4: 715404MB (1465149168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada4: Native Command Queueing enabled

 BIOS must be set to ahci controller mode, and obviously both disk and
 controller must support it.  This works fine off a GENERIC.


Also note this can change loader mappings, so be sure to edit fstab if
necessary.

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Re: HEADS UP: major CAM ATA MFC

2009-11-18 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:11:26AM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
 
  I don't know.  I'm waiting for someone to actually write documentation
  on this.  I keep seeing commits talking about ATA disks via CAM (e.g.
  SCSI emulation for ATA disks), but the only thing I'm aware of that
  exists is SCSI emulation for ATAPI devices.
 
   I've just tried Modular ATA configuration of Intel ICH7-based system
  plus device ahci
   minus all traditional ata(4) kernel configuration, the kernel builds fine
   but boot messages do not show any attempt to detect my SATA HDD,
   so root mount just fails (I use GEOM UFS labels in my /etc/fstab).
   Typing ? at mounroot prompt I see only daX devices standing for my USB
  cardreader
   and no device for HDD.
 
  This sounds like a different problem.  You may want to talk to mav@
  about this.
 
   It seems I miss ada(4) device and I cannot find it in 8.0 - not ada.ko
  nor device ada.
 
  Same.
 
 
  To enable ahci, put ahci_load=YES into loader.conf.  Upon reboot, drives
 will be detected as adaX eg
 
 galacticdominator% dmesg |grep ada
 GEOM_STRIPE: Disk ada3 attached to stripe0.
 GEOM_STRIPE: Disk ada4 attached to stripe0.
 a...@galacticdominator.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
 ada0 at ahcich0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada0: ST31000528AS CC37 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
 ada0: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada0: 953869MB (1953525168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada0: Native Command Queueing enabled
 ada1 at ahcich1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada1: ST3750330AS SD15 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
 ada1: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada1: 715404MB (1465149168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada1: Native Command Queueing enabled
 ada2 at ahcich3 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada2: ST3500320AS AD14 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
 ada2: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada2: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada2: Native Command Queueing enabled
 ada3 at ahcich4 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada3: ST3500320AS AD14 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
 ada3: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada3: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada3: Native Command Queueing enabled
 ada4 at ahcich5 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
 ada4: ST3750330AS SD15 ATA/ATAPI-8 SATA 2.x device
 ada4: 300.000MB/s transfers
 ada4: 715404MB (1465149168 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C)
 ada4: Native Command Queueing enabled
 
 BIOS must be set to ahci controller mode, and obviously both disk and
 controller must support it.  This works fine off a GENERIC.

AHCI in the BIOS is enabled, AHCI in FreeBSD is in use.

Kernel configuration is below my .sig, ditto with dmesg.  World sources
are from ~45 minutes prior to kernel build date (2009/11/17 20:07 PST).

FreeBSD icarus.home.lan 8.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.0-PRERELEASE #0: Tue Nov 17 
20:07:21 PST 2009 
r...@icarus.home.lan:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X7SBA_RELENG_8_amd64  amd64

Like I said, this whole thing needs to get documented.

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#
# Kernel configuration for the following system:
#
#   OS: RELENG_8
#   MB: Supermicro X7SBA
# arch: amd64
#

cpu HAMMER
ident   GENERIC

makeoptions DEBUG=-g# Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

options SCHED_ULE   # ULE scheduler
options PREEMPTION  # Enable kernel thread preemption
options INET# InterNETworking
options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support
options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists
options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories
options UFS_GJOURNAL# Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling
options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device
options NFSCLIENT   # Network Filesystem Client
options NFSSERVER   # Network Filesystem Server
options NFSLOCKD# Network Lock Manager
options NFS_ROOT# NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT
options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660  # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options PROCFS  # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
options PSEUDOFS# Pseudo-filesystem framework
options GEOM_PART_GPT   # GUID Partition Tables.
options GEOM_LABEL  # Provides labelization
options COMPAT_43TTY# BSD 4.3 TTY compat (sgtty)
options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options KTRACE  # ktrace(1) support
options STACK