Re: /boot size in 7.0 beta3

2007-12-07 Thread Andrey V. Elsukov

Doug Hardie wrote:
Between 6.2 and 7 /boot has grown from 45 MB to 114 MB.  That poses a 
significant issue for those of us who have been running production 
systems for many years.  I have the root partition set to 200 MB which 
has been more than enough.  Its no longer usable.  7.0 beta will not 
install properly as it runs out of space.  Basically this forces you to 
repartition the drive.  That requires an extensive down time for 
servers.  Far beyond what I can justify to users.


src/UPDATING:
20060118:
   This actually occured some time ago, but installing the kernel
   now also installs a bunch of symbol files for the kernel modules.
   This increases the size of /boot/kernel to about 67Mbytes. You
   will need twice this if you will eventually back this up to
   kernel.old on your next install.
   If you have a shortage of room in your root partition, you
   should add -DINSTALL_NODEBUG to your make arguments or add
   INSTALL_NODEBUG=yes to your /etc/make.conf.

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Re: /boot size in 7.0 beta3

2007-12-07 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:56:06AM -1000 I heard the voice of
Parv, and lo! it spake thus:
 
 So, just what have you been stuffing in /?

kernel.debug for one thing.  But that's not what really kills it; it's
when there are TWO kernel.debug's in the time between starting the
upgrade and being sure the new one works solid.  Or now, two sets of
.symbols files, which is way too much for it (one set is ~75 megs).



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Re: /boot size in 7.0 beta3

2007-12-07 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Matthew D. Fuller thusly...

 On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 05:32:41PM -0800 I heard the voice of
 Doug Hardie, and lo! it spake thus:
 
  Between 6.2 and 7 /boot has grown from 45 MB to 114 MB.  That
  poses a significant issue for those of us who have been running
  production systems for many years.  I have the root partition
  set to 200 MB which has been more than enough.
 
 Well, 200 meg has been pretty tight and rather small for a couple
 versions now.  My 194 meg / partition set up in 3-CURRENT days is
 pretty tight these days   8-}

On not too old RELENG_6 with a debug kernel (nothing much in /root,
/tmp is a symlinked to elsewhere)
...

  df -h
  Filesystem  SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad4s3a 193M 71M107M40%/
  /dev/ufs/t61var 387M104M253M29%/var
  /dev/ufs/t61usr 678M155M468M25%/usr
  /dev/ufs/t61home 24G6.3G 16G28%/home
  /dev/ufs/t61misc 13G6.8G5.4G56%/misc
  devfs   1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev

So, just what have you been stuffing in /?  Now if /var is really in
/, then 200M is indeed close to the usage (175M) for comfort.


  - Parv


 rm'ing away all the .symbols files from the kernel dir did the
 trick for me, though (I did have to do it in another terminal
 while `installkernel` was running to get it to complete...
 there's probably a flag I can pass to make):

 Filesystem   SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/da0s1a  194M 65M113M36%/

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Re: /boot size in 7.0 beta3

2007-12-07 Thread Doug Hardie


On Dec 7, 2007, at 02:25, Andrey V. Elsukov wrote:


Doug Hardie wrote:
Between 6.2 and 7 /boot has grown from 45 MB to 114 MB.  That poses  
a significant issue for those of us who have been running  
production systems for many years.  I have the root partition set  
to 200 MB which has been more than enough.  Its no longer usable.   
7.0 beta will not install properly as it runs out of space.   
Basically this forces you to repartition the drive.  That requires  
an extensive down time for servers.  Far beyond what I can justify  
to users.


src/UPDATING:
20060118:
  This actually occured some time ago, but installing the kernel
  now also installs a bunch of symbol files for the kernel modules.
  This increases the size of /boot/kernel to about 67Mbytes. You
  will need twice this if you will eventually back this up to
  kernel.old on your next install.
  If you have a shortage of room in your root partition, you
  should add -DINSTALL_NODEBUG to your make arguments or add
  INSTALL_NODEBUG=yes to your /etc/make.conf.


Thanks.  That must have been after 6.2 came out as I never had that  
occur with it.  Anyway, since I am installing from CD I discovered  
that during the install, VT4 has a working shell that lets you cd to / 
boot/GENERIC and delete the symbol files before the disk overflows.  I  
will have to add the line above to make.conf though as I do minor  
updates from the source.

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/boot size in 7.0 beta3

2007-12-06 Thread Doug Hardie
Between 6.2 and 7 /boot has grown from 45 MB to 114 MB.  That poses a  
significant issue for those of us who have been running production  
systems for many years.  I have the root partition set to 200 MB which  
has been more than enough.  Its no longer usable.  7.0 beta will not  
install properly as it runs out of space.  Basically this forces you  
to repartition the drive.  That requires an extensive down time for  
servers.  Far beyond what I can justify to users.


Also, 7.0 beta3 has login compiled with libutil.so.5 and libc.so.6  
neither of which are on the distribution cd.  I had to point those to  
the existing libs to get login to work.

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Re: /boot size in 7.0 beta3

2007-12-06 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 05:32:41PM -0800 I heard the voice of
Doug Hardie, and lo! it spake thus:

 Between 6.2 and 7 /boot has grown from 45 MB to 114 MB.  That poses
 a significant issue for those of us who have been running production
 systems for many years.  I have the root partition set to 200 MB
 which has been more than enough.

Well, 200 meg has been pretty tight and rather small for a couple
versions now.  My 194 meg / partition set up in 3-CURRENT days is
pretty tight these days   8-}

rm'ing away all the .symbols files from the kernel dir did the trick
for me, though (I did have to do it in another terminal while
`installkernel` was running to get it to complete...  there's probably
a flag I can pass to make):

Filesystem   SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a  194M 65M113M36%/



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