Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-13 Thread Rasmus Kaj
 KK == Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 KK And what was wrong with casting your eye one line down, clicking on
 KK Message-ID and entering it in the search box at

 KK   http://www.freebsd.org/search/search-mid.html

Ah, there it is.  Thank you!

 KK Is it really rendered in an invisible font for several people not to
 KK have seen it?

Close; it is rendered only it what seems to be a table of contentes
for the current page, but actually is a combination of a local toc
and a liks collection.  Not the most user-friendly device in a web
page ...



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Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-13 Thread Jonathan Noack

On 06/13/05 14:26, Rasmus Kaj wrote:

KK == Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 KK And what was wrong with casting your eye one line down, clicking on
 KK Message-ID and entering it in the search box at

 KK   http://www.freebsd.org/search/search-mid.html

Ah, there it is.  Thank you!

 KK Is it really rendered in an invisible font for several people not to
 KK have seen it?

Close; it is rendered only it what seems to be a table of contentes
for the current page, but actually is a combination of a local toc
and a liks collection.  Not the most user-friendly device in a web
page ...


Even if it was only a table of contents for that page, why not read it? 
 Navigation is provided to save you time.  Regardless of whether it is 
a table of contents for the page, a collection of links, or a 
combination of the two, it is still relevant.


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Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-10 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:22:41PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
  You can't make the archive search, but Google Groups can (and does) very
  well. I search the mail list archives far more frequently with Google (or
  Google Groups) than with the archive search tool.
 Sure you can..there's a message ID search right there on the search
 page!  I already posted a link to this.

Kris wrote  http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html
I tried http://www.freebsd.org/search/
clicked to  http://www.freebsd.org/search/#mailinglists
clicked to  amd64
moused in the original message ID I had quoted
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 got the posting by David O'Brien

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=218610+56+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-amd64/20050605.freebsd-amd64

It wasn't a search by key field of Message-ID, just a search
for arbitrary text, content being the MessageID. But it worked. 
( I had vaguely assumed the search box on front of
http://www.freebsd.org
 search after clicking mailing lists on  front page, leading to

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL

probably would have been unified searches,, but not so, I guess one
search comes standard with ports/mail/mailman,  the other is special
to freebsd.org site.
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:13:57PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:
  On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:22:41PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
   You can't make the archive search, but Google Groups can (and does) very
   well. I search the mail list archives far more frequently with Google (or
   Google Groups) than with the archive search tool.
  Sure you can..there's a message ID search right there on the search
  page!  I already posted a link to this.
 
 Kris wrotehttp://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html
 I tried   http://www.freebsd.org/search/
 clicked tohttp://www.freebsd.org/search/#mailinglists
 clicked toamd64
 moused in the original message ID I had quoted
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  got the posting by David O'Brien
   
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=218610+56+/usr/local/www/db/text/2005/freebsd-amd64/20050605.freebsd-amd64
 
 It wasn't a search by key field of Message-ID, just a search
 for arbitrary text, content being the MessageID. But it worked. 

And what was wrong with casting your eye one line down, clicking on
Message-ID and entering it in the search box at

  http://www.freebsd.org/search/search-mid.html

Is it really rendered in an invisible font for several people not to
have seen it?

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-09 Thread Pete French
 Julian H. Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   GCC 3.4.2 on 5.4-RELEASE has a bug for amd64,
   I started avoiding that by putting 
   CFLAGS=  -O0
   in /etc/make.conf
   More info from:
   Message from David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   of Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:26:15 PDT.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This worries me a lot, but I have not been able to locate the
quoted email! (how do you make the archives search on message ID?)

Does anyone have any,more information on this - I'd hate to start
cmmitting production code to a buggy compiler!

-pcf.
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:32:53AM +0100, Pete French wrote:
  Julian H. Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  GCC 3.4.2 on 5.4-RELEASE has a bug for amd64,
  I started avoiding that by putting 
  CFLAGS=  -O0
  in /etc/make.conf
  More info from:
  Message from David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  of Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:26:15 PDT.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This worries me a lot, but I have not been able to locate the
 quoted email! (how do you make the archives search on message ID?)

http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html

 Does anyone have any,more information on this - I'd hate to start
 cmmitting production code to a buggy compiler!

Don't panic :)

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-09 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:01:54 +0200
 From: Julian H. Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Pete French wrote:
   Julian H. Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 GCC 3.4.2 on 5.4-RELEASE has a bug for amd64,
 I started avoiding that by putting 
 CFLAGS=  -O0
 in /etc/make.conf
 More info from:
 Message from David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 of Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:26:15 PDT.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  This worries me a lot, but I have not been able to locate the
  quoted email!
 
 I searched my local personal archive of FreeBSD amd64 postings with
 find  grep  found the item, then with that item, sorted mail
 archive presentation on FreeBSD site, to now quote you
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/2005-June/005107.html
 
  (how do you make the archives search on message ID?)
 
 I dont know if that's possible.
 I tried the message id into the search box on front page of freebsd site,
 but it did not find what I wanted.

You can't make the archive search, but Google Groups can (and does) very
well. I search the mail list archives far more frequently with Google (or
Google Groups) than with the archive search tool.

Note that not all FreeBSD mailing lists are present in Google Groups,
but most message-ids can be found in either. Google gets around.
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-09 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Thursday 09 June 2005 06:32 am, Pete French wrote:
  Julian H. Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  GCC 3.4.2 on 5.4-RELEASE has a bug for amd64,
  I started avoiding that by putting
  CFLAGS=  -O0
  in /etc/make.conf
  More info from:
  Message from David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  of Thu, 02 Jun 2005 01:26:15 PDT.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This worries me a lot, but I have not been able to locate the
 quoted email! (how do you make the archives search on message ID?)

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20050602082615.GA36096
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200506011833.12686.jkim

For more info about this issue:
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?IDTR9T00.LMF
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20050324194817.N97600
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20050324182524.J97436

 Does anyone have any,more information on this - I'd hate to start
 cmmitting production code to a buggy compiler!

Don't panic; it is not critical at all.  Other critical issues are 
fixed in GCC 3.4.4, which is in -CURRENT.  On -STABLE, you can use 
ports/lang/gcc34 from ports.

Jung-uk Kim

 -pcf.
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Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?GCC broken for amd64 ? (was Re: FreeBSD 5.4: Is it generally unstable?)

2005-06-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:22:41PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:

 You can't make the archive search, but Google Groups can (and does) very
 well. I search the mail list archives far more frequently with Google (or
 Google Groups) than with the archive search tool.

Sure you can..there's a message ID search right there on the search
page!  I already posted a link to this.

Kris


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