Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-08 Thread Matthew Seaman 
On 08/07/16 06:55, Doug Hardie wrote:
> Is there any information available on when freebsd-update might be
> corrected to upgrade some 9.3 systems to 11.0?  I have tried all the
> beta's and none of them will do the upgrade even with the EN applied.
> Bug 211398 has the details.

According to the history in that PR, Xin sent you a revised patch to
test and everything now works OK for you?

It seems that gradually, a wider and wider range of characters are being
introduced into the pathnames FreeBSD uses.  ISTR the same sort of
update happening before now at least once.

I guess this means there will be another EN for freebsd-update.  Exactly
when depends what and on how urgent the issues addressed by any SAs and
ENs are.  Most of the time EN's are only issued when there's a new crop
of SA's ready to go, but considering this will affect peoples' ability
to test 11.0 betas it might well come out separately.  SecTeam generally
doesn't pre-announce their release schedule, for fairly obvious reasons.

> I have a number of production systems on 9.3 that need to be
> upgraded.  I can't go to 10.x as it won't boot on that hardware.
> However, 11.0 does boot.  I can't afford the downtime to completely
> rebuild them.

11.0 hasn't been released yet -- it's currently on 11.0-BETA4.  There
was a (fairly last minute) blocking issue that meant they had to do
another round of BETAs.

The schedule here is kept up to date:

https://www.freebsd.org/releases/11.0R/schedule.html

Estimated release date is the 9th September.

Cheers,

Matthew




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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-08 Thread Zoran Kolic 
> The patch (correctly applied by hand) worked fine.  The update completed and 
> the server is running 11.0-BETA4.

I have sources on both boxen. When time comes, I will add a patch.
Is it the same way to get a patch like " patch < something"? 
You saved me from installing from the start, which I dislike a lot.
Not right now. I will wait for a release. If I do it more freq, my
nodes would stop working, since they are not new (read old).

  Zoran

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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-08 Thread Doug Hardie 

> On 7 August 2016, at 23:05, Zoran Kolic  wrote:
> 
>> The patch (correctly applied by hand) worked fine.  The update completed and 
>> the server is running 11.0-BETA4.
> 
> I have sources on both boxen. When time comes, I will add a patch.
> Is it the same way to get a patch like " patch < something"? 
> You saved me from installing from the start, which I dislike a lot.
> Not right now. I will wait for a release. If I do it more freq, my
> nodes would stop working, since they are not new (read old).

No, you have to vi the file and go to approximately the location indicated in 
the patch file and replace the one line.  There are comments in above that line 
which will match those in the patch to help you find the right place.  I 
suspect the provided patch is for the 10.x version of that file.


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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-07 Thread Doug Hardie 

> On 7 August 2016, at 21:27, Zoran Kolic  wrote:
> 
>> However, that patch works and I am now able to upgrade to 11.0-BETA4.
> 
> Would you continue informing us with the end result of your procedure.
> Personally, I will go the same way on my home nodes. I'm sure latter
> RCs would be more friendly regarding this upgrade. Since I have desktop
> and laptop, I'm not able to play and miss.

The patch (correctly applied by hand) worked fine.  The update completed and 
the server is running 11.0-BETA4.


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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-07 Thread Zoran Kolic 
> However, that patch works and I am now able to upgrade to 11.0-BETA4.

Would you continue informing us with the end result of your procedure.
Personally, I will go the same way on my home nodes. I'm sure latter
RCs would be more friendly regarding this upgrade. Since I have desktop
and laptop, I'm not able to play and miss.
Best regards

Zoran

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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-07 Thread Doug Hardie 

> On 7 August 2016, at 13:59, Florian Ermisch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Am 7. August 2016 08:37:45 MESZ, schrieb Kurt Jaeger :
>> […]
>>> I have a number of production systems on 9.3 that need to be
>>> upgraded.  I can't go to 10.x as it won't boot on that hardware.
>>> However, 11.0 does boot.  I can't afford the downtime to completely
>>> rebuild them.
>> 
>> Uh, that sounds complicated.
> 
> Maybe it's worth the hassle to set up
> a freebsd-update server which provides 
> a 11.0 Kernel with a 10.x userland as
> 10.x-RELEASE? It's a hack, but only
> needed for the upgrade…
> 
> Regards, Florian


Comment #5 to https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211398 has a 
patch that gets you very close to the right place for 9.3.  However, that patch 
works and I am now able to upgrade to 11.0-BETA4.  I have one server almost 
completed.  There are a couple of issues with packages, but they are being 
worked out.

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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-07 Thread Florian Ermisch 


Am 7. August 2016 08:37:45 MESZ, schrieb Kurt Jaeger :
> […]
> > I have a number of production systems on 9.3 that need to be
> > upgraded.  I can't go to 10.x as it won't boot on that hardware.
> > However, 11.0 does boot.  I can't afford the downtime to completely
> > rebuild them.
> 
> Uh, that sounds complicated.

Maybe it's worth the hassle to set up
a freebsd-update server which provides 
a 11.0 Kernel with a 10.x userland as
10.x-RELEASE? It's a hack, but only
needed for the upgrade…

Regards, Florian
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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-07 Thread Doug Hardie 
> On 6 August 2016, at 23:37, Kurt Jaeger  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
>> Is there any information available on when freebsd-update might
>> be corrected to upgrade some 9.3 systems to 11.0?
> 
> Does
> 
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211354
> 
> help ?
> 
>> I have a number of production systems on 9.3 that need to be
>> upgraded.  I can't go to 10.x as it won't boot on that hardware.
>> However, 11.0 does boot.  I can't afford the downtime to completely
>> rebuild them.
> 
> Uh, that sounds complicated.

 No that didn't fix it.  That change was in the EN which was applied and while 
the line numbers are different in 9.3, the extra character is in my copy.




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Re: freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-07 Thread Kurt Jaeger 
Hi!

> Is there any information available on when freebsd-update might
> be corrected to upgrade some 9.3 systems to 11.0?

Does

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211354

help ?

> I have a number of production systems on 9.3 that need to be
> upgraded.  I can't go to 10.x as it won't boot on that hardware.
> However, 11.0 does boot.  I can't afford the downtime to completely
> rebuild them.

Uh, that sounds complicated.

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freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-07 Thread Doug Hardie 
Is there any information available on when freebsd-update might be corrected to 
upgrade some 9.3 systems to 11.0?  I have tried all the beta's and none of them 
will do the upgrade even with the EN applied.  Bug 211398 has the details.

I have a number of production systems on 9.3 that need to be upgraded.  I can't 
go to 10.x as it won't boot on that hardware.  However, 11.0 does boot.  I 
can't afford the downtime to completely rebuild them.

— Doug

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freebsd-update from 9.3 to 11.0

2016-08-07 Thread Doug Hardie 
Is there any information available on when freebsd-update might be corrected to 
upgrade some 9.3 systems to 11.0?  I have tried all the beta's and none of them 
will do the upgrade even with the EN applied.  Bug 211398 has the details.

I have a number of production systems on 9.3 that need to be upgraded.  I can't 
go to 10.x as it won't boot on that hardware.  However, 11.0 does boot.  I 
can't afford the downtime to completely rebuild them.

— Doug

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