Re: Enabling VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?

2014-10-14 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Alexander V. Chernikov melif...@ipfw.ru
wrote:


 On 11 Oct 2014, at 21:58, Craig Rodrigues rodr...@freebsd.org wrote:

  Hi,
 
  What action items are left to enable VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?
 Are there any tests results showing performance implications on different
 network-related workloads?


Alexander,

Do you have a testbed where you could run a quick network test for
non-virtualized workload:
   - CURRENT without VIMAGE in kernel config
   - CURRENT with VIMAGE in kernel config

and provide some results ?

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Re: Enabling VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?

2014-10-14 Thread k simon



在 14-10-13 0:38, Bjoern A. Zeeb 写道:


On 12 Oct 2014, at 16:25 , Yamagi Burmeister li...@yamagi.org wrote:


Hello,
it's been a while since I tested VIMAGE, but at the last time somewhere
in 10-CURRENT some UMA memory leaks were left when destroying vnets.
They weren't showstoppers for most workloads, but pretty anoying...
Have those been fixed?


No, an old perforce branch of mine had all but the last TCP ones fixed.  The 
code is still there.



  Did you mean it's still leaked with TCP services, eg. HTTP ?



Simon
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Re: Enabling VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?

2014-10-14 Thread Olivier Cochard-Labbé
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Craig Rodrigues rodr...@freebsd.org
wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Alexander V. Chernikov melif...@ipfw.ru
 wrote:

 
  On 11 Oct 2014, at 21:58, Craig Rodrigues rodr...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   What action items are left to enable VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?
  Are there any tests results showing performance implications on different
  network-related workloads?
 
 
 Alexander,

 Do you have a testbed where you could run a quick network test for
 non-virtualized workload:
- CURRENT without VIMAGE in kernel config
- CURRENT with VIMAGE in kernel config

 and provide some results ?


I can use my forwarding/firewalling 10Giga lab for testing VIMAGE impact.
Here are my ministat results (smallest packet size, value in
packet-per-second, about 2000 flows).
= I didn't see lot's of performance impact with VIMAGE option added in
kernel.

Forwarding difference :
x forwarding.r272978-VIMAGE
+ forwarding.r272978
+--+
|x +x   x +++ xx  +|
| |_M__A|  |
| |MA| |
+--+
N   Min   MaxMedian   AvgStddev
x   5   1929165   1998339   1963904 1966801.4 27506.256
+   5   1953943   2005868   1971503   1976523 19087.721
No difference proven at 95.0% confidence

ipfw-statefull difference:
x ipfw-statefull.r272978-VIMAGE
+ ipfw-statefull.r272978
+--+
| x x  * *   +x+  +|
||_MA__|   |
||___M___A___| |
+--+
N   Min   MaxMedian   AvgStddev
x   5   1490042   1531750   1503590   1505175 16403.596
+   5   1502719   1589778   1517320 1529871.8 35404.181
No difference proven at 95.0% confidence


pf-statefull difference:
x pf-statefull.r272978-VIMAGE
+ pf-statefull.r272978
+--+
|x++xx   *+x  +|
||__AM_|   |
| |A_M_|   |
+--+
N   Min   MaxMedian   AvgStddev
x   5   1315594   1341130   1334215   1331310  9769.922
+   5   1324108   1351078   1336257 1335044.2 10562.448
No difference proven at 95.0% confidence

Regards
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Re: Enabling VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?

2014-10-14 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, Olivier Cochard-Labbé wrote:

 I can use my forwarding/firewalling 10Giga lab for testing VIMAGE impact.
 Here are my ministat results (smallest packet size, value in
 packet-per-second, about 2000 flows).
 = I didn't see lot's of performance impact with VIMAGE option added in
 kernel.

Surely we would also want to test on some low-end networks as well ...
we still have some 10/half networks here (luckily, nowhere that I
frequent).

-Ben
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Re: Enabling VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?

2014-10-14 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell

Alexander V. Chernikov wrote:

On 11 Oct 2014, at 21:58, Craig Rodrigues rodr...@freebsd.org wrote:


Hi,

What action items are left to enable VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?


well the next step is to make it a dependancy so that free bsd won't 
install without it, and to inject it in many binaries that insure 
it's in use.  like ssh !


the key is: 98 117C FE83 22EA B843 3E86  6486 4320 545E 1B2A FA1C

just change anything you don't like in any jails being upgraded and 
tada you may get what's protected!  can i have some?

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Re: Enabling VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?

2014-10-14 Thread John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell

Alexander V. Chernikov wrote:

On 11 Oct 2014, at 21:58, Craig Rodrigues rodr...@freebsd.org wrote:


Hi,

What action items are left to enable VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?

Are there any tests results showing performance implications on different 
network-related workloads?

Not everyone uses bhyve, so VIMAGE is quite useful when using jails.

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i know little about chroot jails or 7 ring processor levels

but let me ask rhetorically ...

do you mean VIMAGE allows a jail to use an iface device for many IPs 
or even MAC?  i thought that was already the case all cards can 
listen - it's only a headers trick per say.


but do you mean a chroot can have access to an iface (which there 
are pkg for setting up if i remember)?  but if a jail is allowed to 
use an iface why not allocate it - meaning: what is the purpose of 
middleman vimage connecting device to jail unless there is a strict 
filter inbetween (ie, strippign headers, or even controlling what 
iface/routes are alllowed)?


i can't see what it's for, but much less making it mandatorily 
injected upon all jailsm, except maybe it may BREAK existing jails 
by allowing net access where there is NOT supposed to be any / 
assumed not to be any


if they old programmers didn't want anyone compiling software who 
logged in: they'd insure there was no compiler.  if they didn't want 
typing at a terminal: they'd take away the keyboard right?


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Re: Enabling VIMAGE by default for FreeBSD 11?

2014-10-14 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 11:17 AM, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell 
johnandsa...@cox.net wrote:

 do you mean VIMAGE allows a jail to use an iface device for many IPs or
 even MAC?  i thought that was already the case all cards can listen -
 it's only a headers trick per say.


Search for VIMAGE here: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=jail
That gives a pretty good description of what VIMAGE and jails can do.

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convert .vmdk files

2014-10-14 Thread Pete Wright

hi - i noticed in the latest quarterly status report that an open todo item:

   10. Add filters for popular VM file formats (VMDK, VHD, QCOW2)

i have some .vmdk files for systems currently running VirtualBox i would 
like to port to bhyve.  i also have a box running bhyve (10.1-rc2) that 
i can test patches and workflows as well.  what is the work required for 
this entail?


cheers,
-pete


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Re: convert .vmdk files

2014-10-14 Thread Peter Grehan

Hi Pete,

10. Add filters for popular VM file formats (VMDK, VHD, QCOW2)

i have some .vmdk files for systems currently running VirtualBox i would
like to port to bhyve.  i also have a box running bhyve (10.1-rc2) that
i can test patches and workflows as well.  what is the work required for
this entail?


 What you have to do today is to convert the VMDK to a flat file, e.g. 
using qemu-img.


 Ideally bhyve would be able to read/write VM file formats directly, 
perhaps with some sort of filter on top of the existing file backend 
code. There's plenty of GPL code around for this, but bhyve requires 
code with a BSD license.


later,

Peter.



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