Re: [Freedos-user] More FreeDOS FDISK tests - failure is repeatable

2005-07-22 Thread Kenneth J. Davis
Anyone know if Brian is on fd-user list? or otherwise been notified of 
these issues?


I don't think it will be too difficult to correct (warn/abort at least) 
so maybe if I get time after work tommorrow I'll make a patch available 
to make fdisk safer to use.


Thanks for reviewing the code,
Jeremy
(hoping Brian is still around...)


Michael Devore wrote:


At 04:01 PM 7/21/2005 -0500, I wrote:

When you invoke FDISK without arguments, it goes into the 
Interactive_User_Interface() routine.  That, in turn, asks about FAT32 
support, via Ask_User_About_FAT32_Support() function.  OK so far.  
After that call -- without any further prompting -- FDISK calls the 
Create_MBR_If_Not_Present() routine.

...





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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS won't boot correctly from hard disk

2005-07-22 Thread Carl William Spitzer IV
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 17:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello, all:
 
 Back to my other laptop and other problem.  I am unable to install
 FreeDOS on my 477 MB FAT32 partition.  This is a DIFFERENT laptop
 entirely.  There is an extended partition, and an NTFS partition.
 The FAT32 partition is a primary partition (the third, I believe).


www.bootdisk.com

try it with a MSDOS 622 or PCDOS disk and use its fdisk.

There is some disagreement about partition marking between windows and
linux and rumors that MickeyMouse will be changing again for some
version of NTFS.

So I would advise trying to cheat in this way.

BTW there is now an Oreilly book on Knoppix and its tricks.  Looked like
a good toolkit to have just in case.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Is there a maximum partition size in the FreeDOS kernel?

2005-07-22 Thread Carl William Spitzer IV
On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 15:22, Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
 Hi!
 
 16-Июл-2005 00:07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote to
 freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:
 
 
 kn What's the size limit on a partition for the FreeDOS kernel?
 
  2 Gb for FAT16 partition, 2 Tb for the FAT32 partition. But all
 programs, which use only 32-bit arithmetics and use plain old DOS functions
 (non-FAT32 aware) always will see 2 Gb free, even if there (on FAT32
 partition) is more free space.
 
 


In crashing this machine I found that the extended is limited to 8gig
out of which you can carve up your logical partitions which share the
2gig limit.


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS kicks some serious Ass!

2005-07-22 Thread Carl William Spitzer IV
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah, some people just don't like WindowsXP.  It's hard to
 buy a new computer without it installed, though!
 


File a microsoft refund form.  Then install your favorite dos and your
favorite distro and enjoy.


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS won't boot correctly from hard disk

2005-07-22 Thread kd4d
Hi:

Thanks.  I know all of these workarounds.  The problem was an apparent
bug in an older version of FreeDOS sys.com.

Mark


 On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 17:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello, all:
  
  Back to my other laptop and other problem.  I am unable to install
  FreeDOS on my 477 MB FAT32 partition.  This is a DIFFERENT laptop
  entirely.  There is an extended partition, and an NTFS partition.
  The FAT32 partition is a primary partition (the third, I believe).
 
 
 www.bootdisk.com
 
 try it with a MSDOS 622 or PCDOS disk and use its fdisk.
 
 There is some disagreement about partition marking between windows and
 linux and rumors that MickeyMouse will be changing again for some
 version of NTFS.
 
 So I would advise trying to cheat in this way.
 
 BTW there is now an Oreilly book on Knoppix and its tricks.  Looked like
 a good toolkit to have just in case.
 
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Re: [Freedos-user] More FreeDOS FDISK tests - failure is repeatable

2005-07-22 Thread Gerry Hickman

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By the way, I consider this bug extremely serious.


I agree, and Michael's post would appear to confirm that FDISK is far 
from read-only, but has this bug always been there, or is it only in 
recent development builds?


If it's always been there, why have more people not been affected?

--
Gerry Hickman (London UK)


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Re: [Freedos-user] More FreeDOS FDISK tests - failure is repeatable

2005-07-22 Thread Michael Devore

At 08:36 PM 7/22/2005 +0100, Gerry Hickman wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


By the way, I consider this bug extremely serious.


I agree, and Michael's post would appear to confirm that FDISK is far from 
read-only, but has this bug always been there, or is it only in recent 
development builds?


If it's always been there, why have more people not been affected?


Biggest mitigating factors are that if your hard drive behaves without 
errors, is reasonably standard with expected parameters, and there is no 
corruption of the program, the MBR write on startup won't occur.  Hard 
drives do tend to be reliable and within common CHS/LBA expectations.  And 
I'm guessing that most of the time there isn't corruption of the FDISK 
program such that it blows its internal partition or read data, or stack.


Thing to remember is that we don't know the actual bug is in FDISK.  It may 
well not be there.  We just know that FDISK is unfriendly to anything 
other than expected behavior to the point of potentially disastrous 
actions.  Unexpected behaviors are likely rare events.





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[Freedos-user] Announce: EDIT 0.7d preview / doc-and-bug-help needed

2005-07-22 Thread Eric Auer

Hi, thanks to Bothie helping me out while there are problems
with uploading things to my page, you can now enjoy the new
EDIT 0.7d PREVIEW version :-). It is a preview version because
there are several help text things which are still to be fixed,
so if you want to support your FreeDOS developers (uhm, me :-))
please send me (or even better, upload somewhere) an improved
version of edit.txt (or a diff). Thanks a lot :-).

If you prefer programming: There is one unsolved bug to hunt down.

Grab your copy of EDIT 0.7d preview at:
http://bothie.sharedaemon.org/temp/edit07d-pre.zip

The big list of updates, bugs and wishes follows. Please comment
in particular the wish part so that I know which are most wanted.




Updates for 0.7d:
* UPCASE / DOWNCASE block functions added, which have the effect
  that you expect from the name, but support no COUNTRY extras yet...
* COUNT lines words and bytes in block function added: the results
  are shown in the status line until you move the cursor again.
* You can now also use ESC again to leave single line editboxes in
  dialogs - to type a literal ESC, use Ctrl-P ESC there now.
* Bugfix: Moving the ASCII table is now possible by keyboard. The ASCII
  table also looks a bit better now, nicer char description line.
* Stability: Some sanity checks to skip loading a broken edit.hlp file,
  although only one of three header words is checked strongly yet.
* Security: Refuses invalid directories and drives after lastdrive now.
  SaveAs should be quite a bit safer now but not really perfect yet.
* Reenabled double border for in-focus dialog listboxes(*) and in-focus
  text windows. (*) is very good as you did not SEE that focus before!

Open issues:
* HELP should be updated to tell that Alt-Digit can be used to directly
  jump to open windows, but that this means the digit keys on top of
  the keyboard, not the numpad digit keys which have other purposes.
* HELP should be updated to tell that Ctrl-P letter for literal typing
  of things like tab or esc is supported in dialogs AND text windows.
* HELP should be updated to mention all hotkeys, e.g. Ctrl-F is known   
  to be not yet mentioned in the help text...
* I could not find a BUG in the automatic dropdown menu width setup
  code which makes the Ctrl-F hotkey label of FIND look like Ctrl-!

Wishlist:
* The WINDOW menu item is not blocked if there are no windows open, no
  real problem...
* Functions to TILE or CASCADE windows would be nice, and at least the
  CASCADE function should be reasonably easy to implement.
* It would be nice to have some mouse support in the ASCII table, e.g.
  klicking on a char could select it and maybe even paste it to the
  most recently active editor text window...
* Something like a ruler or temporarily showing line and column number
  around the current editor text window might be nice - but is hard.
* A function to insert date and time as string at the cursor location
  might be useful. But I actually do not think it is worth the hassle.





Thanks in advance for testing. I hope you enjoy the update :-).

Eric

PS: The width bug is assumed to be in popdown.c, something is using
  SelectionWidth() or MenuWidth() the wrong way or uses one while it
  should be using the other or similar. Again, I could not find it.




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[Freedos-user] re: More FreeDOS FDISK tests - failure is repeatable

2005-07-22 Thread Eric Auer

Hi, while it would be easy to remove the write new empty partition
table if reading the partition table failed nonsense from FDISK,
would it be against the FreeDOS SPECS to just replace it by, say,
XFDISK? I mean, XFDISK is open source. It only does not LOOK like
the old MS DOS user interface, but hey, that was crap anyway...

http://www.mecronome.de/xfdisk/index.php

Eric

PS: I am sure there are other, even better, alternatives, but
xfdisk was just the first alternative FDISK that came into mind
when I thought about replacements. And that xfdisk homepage has
some false claims (e.g. only Lilo can boot Linux, and the first
track has 17 free sectors which are free for xfdisk fiddling...)
does not exactly make it more promising... Still better than FD FDISK?

PPS: I know that our FDISK has a big number of command-line driven
options, so whatever we use as replacement would also have to be
quite scriptable, for those who really liked those features...!



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Re: [Freedos-user] Announce: EDIT 0.7d preview / doc-and-bug-help needed

2005-07-22 Thread Johnson Lam
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 02:34:27 +0200 (MEST), you wrote:

Hi Eric,

Sorry for me not being smooth talking ...

Hi, thanks to Bothie helping me out while there are problems
with uploading things to my page, you can now enjoy the new
EDIT 0.7d PREVIEW version :-). It is a preview version because
there are several help text things which are still to be fixed,
so if you want to support your FreeDOS developers (uhm, me :-))
please send me (or even better, upload somewhere) an improved
version of edit.txt (or a diff). Thanks a lot :-).

Glad you make new version of EDIT, but since Joe still releasing his
own EDIT, better NOT to have too many forked version here.

Did you merge Joe's code into your EDIT?


Rgds,
Johnson.



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