Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi again, On 1/14/11, James Collins wrote: > > I am using I GUI program of qemu and when I create my drive that I boot > freedos from I have options for the hard disk > > I have chosen qcow, Try creating a "raw" disk image instead of "qcow" and trying to work with that. IIRC, that might help, but I could be wrong. > But shouldn't 100mb be enough to install freedos? I have tried to install > this in qemu GUI program several times. And when I initially run fdisk to > partition the drive I use the max available? As mentioned, 100 MB is more than enough for "BASE", but to add all the extras (VIM, FreeDoom, FPC), you need more. Don't forget that FreeDOS' kernel and shell (and HIMEMX) can all fit on floppy. Actually, since DOS is so lean and mean, you can fit a lot on a floppy. :-) But I'm guessing you want more than just the raw basics. :-/ If none of this helps, try using either a newer QEMU (0.13.0 is latest) or go back to 0.9.0, but unfortunately, all emulators have bugs, so nothing's perfect. :-/ -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
I am using I GUI program of qemu and when I create my drive that I boot freedos from I have options for the hard disk I have chosen qcow, my other options are no hard disk, new 10mb compressed disk image, new 100mb compressed disk image, new 4gb compressed disk image, new 4gb raw disk image(for windows), create other disk image, choose other disk image And when I boot from fdfullcd.iso and run fdisk to create a partition I choose the max. But when I go to install I get an error on the second screen where there are files that can be checked or unchecked the error is: ERROR! Not enough disk space for package. I restart and don't install but choose to run freedos from the CDROM to run fdisk to try and figure out what is wrong? And it asks me if I want to use large disk support, I say yes. I have an option under fdisk 5. Change current fixed disk drive Which I think is my problem? When I choose 5. It says there are 2 fixed disk drives one has 100mb and 100mb free, but usage is 0% The other one says 1mb nothing under free and 100% usage Then underneath these it says c: 1 Which I don't know if the 1 refers to mb or fixed disk 1 But shouldn't 100mb be enough to install freedos? I have tried to install this in qemu GUI program several times. And when I initially run fdisk to partition the drive I use the max available? Is it possible that my computer is trying to install to a fixed disk 2? I have tried to use option 5. Under fdisk to switch to fixed disk 1 which is like 100mb, I am stuck, all the tutorials I have read don't deal with this, so I know something isn't right but don't know how to fix it? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 14, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi! > >>> I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb > >> A full install probably needs much more than that... > > http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Install#Known_problems > > tells about this: > >> XHARBOUR (a free CLIPPER clone, 8 MB) needs the OWATCOM >> package: That package needs at least 30 MB disk space. >> Other large packages are FPASCAL (free Pascal, 31 MB), >> KRAPTOR (11 MB), Image MAGICK (8 MB), free DOOM (21 MB), >> and VIM (consists of several packages, ca 20 MB). Without >> those packages, installing all other (more than 200) packages >> of the FULLCD needs less than 100 MB disk space. > >> For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but >> I'm not sure how customizable the "old" installer is. > > In the old installer, you can select all packages for > all categories manually, but of course if you want to > do that, you have to toggle lots of checkboxes. Default > is as far as I remember to install whole categories. > >> (Jim Hall's already been rewriting it lately.) > > The new installer is less interactive, I think. People > have 100s of MB free on every USB stick or SD card... > > However, you are of course welcome to do a BASE install > and then use FDPKG to install a few selected non-BASE > packages manually later. Actually you can install most > of the packages simply by unzipping them with any unzip > tool into your dos directory (e.g. C:\FDOS or FREEDOS) > and you can download and copy them in any way you like. > >>> Another error I have come across is if I try to format the >>> drive it fails saying something like drive sectors >>> not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb > >>> I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. >>> And I don't know if these are related > > Looking in the FreeDOS FORMAT source code, you may mean: > >> FATAL: Cluster size not 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 or 64k but... > > When you use FORMAT /D (debug mode) it will return error 59 > which is more fine-grained than error 4, and show more info. > > It is possible that you needed to reboot after fdisk and > before formatting. Another typical problem could be that > your drive is not a real sector based drive at all. Yet > at least in DOSEMU, FORMAT would notice that on time and > show a more useful error message than just about clusters. > > If you try to FORMAT in a non-DOS operating system and the > target drive is not FAT but e.g. NTFS, similar confusion > could occur. If you can already access a drive, you should > not format it again anyway. In particular, if your DOS FAT > drive will be on a multi boot system, you can let existing > other operating systems format the drive to FAT in a safer > way and then just let DOS install to that prepared drive. > > You should have a look at the FORMAT /D output if you want > to try using FORMAT again and want to find out what failed. > Then you can also report more details about the problem. > > Good luck! > > Eric :-) > > > -- > Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks > Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand > malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you >
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi! >> I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb > A full install probably needs much more than that... http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freedos/index.php?title=Install#Known_problems tells about this: > XHARBOUR (a free CLIPPER clone, 8 MB) needs the OWATCOM > package: That package needs at least 30 MB disk space. > Other large packages are FPASCAL (free Pascal, 31 MB), > KRAPTOR (11 MB), Image MAGICK (8 MB), free DOOM (21 MB), > and VIM (consists of several packages, ca 20 MB). Without > those packages, installing all other (more than 200) packages > of the FULLCD needs less than 100 MB disk space. > For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but > I'm not sure how customizable the "old" installer is. In the old installer, you can select all packages for all categories manually, but of course if you want to do that, you have to toggle lots of checkboxes. Default is as far as I remember to install whole categories. > (Jim Hall's already been rewriting it lately.) The new installer is less interactive, I think. People have 100s of MB free on every USB stick or SD card... However, you are of course welcome to do a BASE install and then use FDPKG to install a few selected non-BASE packages manually later. Actually you can install most of the packages simply by unzipping them with any unzip tool into your dos directory (e.g. C:\FDOS or FREEDOS) and you can download and copy them in any way you like. >> Another error I have come across is if I try to format the >> drive it fails saying something like drive sectors >> not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb >> I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. >> And I don't know if these are related Looking in the FreeDOS FORMAT source code, you may mean: > FATAL: Cluster size not 0.5, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 or 64k but... When you use FORMAT /D (debug mode) it will return error 59 which is more fine-grained than error 4, and show more info. It is possible that you needed to reboot after fdisk and before formatting. Another typical problem could be that your drive is not a real sector based drive at all. Yet at least in DOSEMU, FORMAT would notice that on time and show a more useful error message than just about clusters. If you try to FORMAT in a non-DOS operating system and the target drive is not FAT but e.g. NTFS, similar confusion could occur. If you can already access a drive, you should not format it again anyway. In particular, if your DOS FAT drive will be on a multi boot system, you can let existing other operating systems format the drive to FAT in a safer way and then just let DOS install to that prepared drive. You should have a look at the FORMAT /D output if you want to try using FORMAT again and want to find out what failed. Then you can also report more details about the problem. Good luck! Eric :-) -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] DHCP
> The mTCP DHCP client is designed for the mTCP applications. You can > use it and adapt it to do other things, but you will have to write > some scripts or code to take the output from the DHCP client (a text > file) and make it usable for whatever app you had in mind. You might as well consider the package NTOOL available here: http://www.bttr-software.de/products/jhoffmann/ It can also be used for simple file transfers. See the file NTOOL.TXT inside the archive for details. > The other option is the DOS version of the Linux SAMBA smbclient. > This works like a command line FTP client / shell, so you type > commands to go to the files that you want and to upload and download > them, all IN the smbclient shell. I once tryed it and it appeared to me rather bloated and it never really worked for me. Is there some obvious reason for that? (certain versions known to not work correctly or so) Jürgen ___ Empfehlen Sie WEB.DE DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.web.de -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] network and usb floppy access on mac [was: Dhcp]
Hi again, On 1/13/11, James Collins wrote: > > I am trying to install freedos with qemu, but I am coming across an error > when I go to run the install? > The error is saying not enough disk space very early on in the install? > > I have used fdisk to partition my drive at like a 100mb A full install probably needs much more than that, but I don't know exactly. For sure you can manually install a much smaller amount, but I'm not sure how customizable the "old" installer is. (Jim Hall's already been rewriting it lately.) > Another error I have come across is if I try to format the drive it fails > saying something like drive sectors not 1, 4 , 6, 16, 32 etc but 0.0 kb > > I don't know the exact error it returns with result 4. And I don't know if > these are related Blech, sounds like a stinkin' QEMU bug, not much we can do about that. :-/ What QEMU version are you testing? Hopefully latest (0.13.0, apparently) works better, but newer ones sadly don't support fat:/ (which was quite convenient in oldie-but-goodie 0.9.0). Oh well, just try VirtualBox or BOCHS if it doesn't work. -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
