[Freedos-user] fd11src.iso lack of 3rdparty tools

2014-01-15 Thread Anton D . Kachalov
Hi. I've tried to create bootable disk from FreeDOS ISO, but it fails in setup.bat on line: %cddrv%FreeDOS\3rdParty\extract %cddrv%ISOLinux\Data\FDBoot.img -x x:%destdsk% caused by empty "3rdParty" directory and absence of "extract" util. ISO with FreeDOS 1.0 has the following files in the 3rdParty directory: extract.exe  extract.txt  readme.txt  wde_v21b.zip -- Anton D. Kachalov

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[Freedos-user] fdpkg 0.21 I know it will not be pushed into the main repo!

2014-01-15 Thread sparky4

Hi Rugxulo, Sparky, Jim

Sparky, I believe your announce wasn't as clear as it could be. Like
Rugxulo, I understand that you dug out FDPKG because of the need to have
a x86 package installer.

yes

But we definitely lack some information about what you changed in
FDPKG.. Can you please provide a changelog?

I apologize!
I mainly just removed X and S renaming functions
and it is quite quick and dirty code!

Is your version compatible with 1.1 packages? Will it install correctly
files in right directories instead of putting everything into
freedos/bin ?

I need to test it more!
but i think it dose it!

Is your version of FDPKG able to uninstall a package installed by
FDNPKG? What about the other way around?
I believe it works

Since you labeled your version as beta (or was it alpha?), I assume
there are some known bugs or limitations. Could you share please some
information about that too?

It needs a lot more testing and more clean up! and the remove function
is really dirty code~!

All this should it make easier for all of us to understand what we
should expect from your new FDNPKG.



cheers
Mateusz



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Re: [Freedos-user] fd11src.iso lack of 3rdparty tools

2014-01-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Anton D. Kachalov mo...@yandex-team.ru wrote:

 I've tried to create bootable disk from FreeDOS ISO, but it fails in
 setup.bat on line:

 %cddrv%FreeDOS\3rdParty\extract %cddrv%ISOLinux\Data\FDBoot.img -x
 x:%destdsk%

 caused by empty 3rdParty directory and absence of extract util.

 ISO with FreeDOS 1.0 has the following files in the 3rdParty directory:

 extract.exe  extract.txt  readme.txt  wde_v21b.zip

Presumably this is Gilles Vollant (WinImage dude)'s old Extract tool
(freeware, no srcs):

ftp://ftp.winimage.com/extrac21.zip
ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/utildisk/extrac21.zip

(There was also a different smaller version, with srcs, on FASM's
forum [by ATV], a long time ago that I used to unimg some stuff, but
it wasn't as robust in some ways.)
( http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=4753 )

You can find WDE (with srcs) here:

http://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/wde/

P.S. If you want to try again on real (native) hardware, try using
something like (freeware, no srcs) MKBISO to convert a 1.44 MB 3.5
floppy .img into a small .ISO for burning to CD (assuming you have no
physical floppy drive anymore):

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-free-software.htm
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads/mkbiso.zip

You could also try (with srcs) FYS' MTOOLs, but I haven't verified
that it will work:

http://www.fysnet.net/mtools.htm

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Re: [Freedos-user] XMM on AMD Opteron 6274

2014-01-15 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Anton D. Kachalov mo...@yandex-team.ru wrote:
 - rugxulo@

 I use PXELINUX 4.05 20130513. It works fine with MS-DOS (Win98) with MS
 HIMEM, but fails with FreeDOS / any XMM. That is why I don't point to PXE
 loader's problem.
 I can give it a try with latest pxelinux or try iPXE to be burned into ROM.

I'm no kernel developer, but the various DOS kernels are not 100%
identical behind the scenes. I think they load to different initial
segments, too. Unfortunately, most people don't test very well (or
only MS-DOS and not FreeDOS, etc.), hence just because it works in one
doesn't mean it will work in both. If anything, I would rather they
tested FreeDOS first (as a more available target), but they don't do
so, don't ask me why. So bugs remain.

Yes, it could be something else, of course, but I still blindly guess
it's a bug on their end.

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