Re: [Freedos-user] Load file sys driver in dconfig.sys?
Thanks On Sun, 04 May 2014 17:40:54 +0200 Bernd Blaauw bbla...@home.nl writes: Dale E Sterner schreef op 4-5-2014 17:33: What does an HPFS driver do? Access to the Apple Macintosh / MacOS / OSX operating system's filesystem, just as NTFS is associated with Microsoft Windows cheers DS On Sat, 03 May 2014 16:29:32 -0700 Ray Davison ray...@charter.net writes: Is it possible to load an exe file system driver in dconfig.sys? I have a DOS HPFS driver that works OK, but I would like it to get a drive letter before the DVDs. What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7? TY Ray - - Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user FREE Stock Report How to Invest in the $70 Billion Bottled Water Boom http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/53665a5a29c7b5a590943mp06duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** - - Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 2014.0.4577 / Virusdatabase: 3931/7439 - datum van uitgifte: 05/04/14 - - Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Stop Insomnia in 2 Weeks Use the Fisher Wallace Stimulator® for 20 minutes before bedtime http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/53678f5017312f506d5bmp10duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] display command
That means serial would have to be clocked 8 times faster at least to match paraiiel. Thanks. DS On Sun, 04 May 2014 08:41:59 -0700 Michael B. Brutman mbbrut...@brutman.com writes: Synchronizing the sending of bits over parallel interfaces is much more difficult than it is to send a single serial bit stream. As a result, you can send that single serial stream of bits faster than you can do it in parallel across multiple wires. SCSI went through this transition when drives moved from parallel SCSI to FibreChannel and SAS (Serial Attached SCSI). SATA has followed a similar evolution. Even the PCI bus has moved to a serial implementation. You can enjoy your older hardware; I certainly do. But the rest of the world has moved on to these serial variants for a reason. (Keep in mind that none of this takes into account that the hard drive performance is generally limited by the device itself, not the interface.) Mike - - Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Stop Insomnia in 2 Weeks Use the Fisher Wallace Stimulator® for 20 minutes before bedtime http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/53678f5040660f506d5bmp10duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] display command
So what prevents higher clock speeds for IDE. I think serial is just a lot cheaper to make. DS On Sun, 04 May 2014 17:47:46 +0200 Frantisek Hanzlik fra...@hanzlici.cz writes: Dale E Sterner wrote: My machines are all old and use only IDE. As for SATA I don't see how that could be better. The S stands for serial or one bit at a time. A SATA drive interface has only 4 lines going into it vs IDE which has 44 lines. On SATA 2 lines are for power, the other 2 lines are for data. Using the same clock which do you think is faster? Here is fundamental factor - SATA hasn't same clock speed as IDE. Its speed is higher so that much surpasses ide interface. Some quickly found reference: http://www.howtogeek.com/171947/why-is-serial-data-transmission-faster-th an-parallel-data-transmission/ - - Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Stop Insomnia in 2 Weeks Use the Fisher Wallace Stimulator® for 20 minutes before bedtime http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/53678f50ad755f506d5bmp10duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] display command
I think cost is the big factor for serial. Serial would have to clock 8 times faster to match IDE. A 250 gig CF chip costs $1500 while an SD chip is much much cheaper. I. On Sun, 4 May 2014 15:06:36 -0400 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: My machines are all old and use only IDE. As for SATA I don't see how that could be better. The S stands for serial or one bit at a time. A SATA drive interface has only 4 lines going into it vs IDE which has 44 lines. On SATA 2 lines are for power, the other 2 lines are for data. Using the same clock which do you think is faster? Ah, yes. Parallel must be faster than serial. I know it seems intuitive, but it isn't true. Go Look Stuff Up. Your ignorance of recent development is showing. Start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA __ Dennis - - Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Stop Insomnia in 2 Weeks Use the Fisher Wallace Stimulator® for 20 minutes before bedtime http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/53678f5168dc0f506d5bmp10duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] display command
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: I think cost is the big factor for serial. Serial would have to clock 8 times faster to match IDE. Cost is the big factor, period. PCs are commodities, with commodity pricing. Given the same specs, it largely doesn't *matter* whose name is on the box. The purchase decision comes down to price, and lowest cost producer wins because they can offer cheaper prices. A 250 gig CF chip costs $1500 while an SD chip is much much cheaper. And this is a *bad* thing? Perhaps you would prefer PCs still used MFM drives with separate controller cards? I still have my old XT clone with two Seagate ST-225 20 *MB* hard drives connected to a WD controller card. Nowadays, you can't find a 20 *GB* hard drive. They are all much larger and getting bigger still. You can get terabyte SATA drives for about $65. __ Dennis -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] display command
On 2014-05-05 09:32 (GMT-0400) Dale E Sterner composed: So what prevents higher clock speeds for IDE. Crosstalk and impedance, but there are other reasons why SATA is better too. For a better answer you could have looked it up instead of asking here. e.g. http://hexus.net/tech/tech-explained/storage/1339-pata-vs-sata/ -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] display command
Very true. It doesn't mean that a new computer is better than the old one being recycled. A new twist I heard that Micro Soft is requiring computer vendors to write their bios so that only win 8 will boot on them. They want to get rid of Linux.Once a win 8 machine forever a win 8 machine. cheers DS On Mon, 5 May 2014 09:54:10 -0400 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: I think cost is the big factor for serial. Serial would have to clock 8 times faster to match IDE. Cost is the big factor, period. PCs are commodities, with commodity pricing. Given the same specs, it largely doesn't *matter* whose name is on the box. The purchase decision comes down to price, and lowest cost producer wins because they can offer cheaper prices. A 250 gig CF chip costs $1500 while an SD chip is much much cheaper. And this is a *bad* thing? Perhaps you would prefer PCs still used MFM drives with separate controller cards? I still have my old XT clone with two Seagate ST-225 20 *MB* hard drives connected to a WD controller card. Nowadays, you can't find a 20 *GB* hard drive. They are all much larger and getting bigger still. You can get terabyte SATA drives for about $65. __ Dennis - - Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Stop Insomnia in 2 Weeks Use the Fisher Wallace Stimulator® for 20 minutes before bedtime http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/5367999a99e74199a3d44mp04duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] display command
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: Very true. It doesn't mean that a new computer is better than the old one being recycled. Depends on what you consider better. Most folks think faster, more powerful, and cheaper is better. A new twist I heard that Micro Soft is requiring computer vendors to write their bios so that only win 8 will boot on them. They want to get rid of Linux.Once a win 8 machine forever a win 8 machine. Look Stuff Up. It's not that simple, and you *can* dual boot Win8 and Linux. It's just more of a pain to set up. What you are dealing with is UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface), which is intended as a *replacement* for the traditional BIOS. This is not just Microsoft. It's a computer *industry* initiative. See http://www.uefi.org/ for the website devoted to the effort, and look at the Membership tab to see a list of companies involved. cheers DS __ Dennis -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] display command
Depends on what you like to do with it. Most computer today are entertainment center. I have a DVD player for that. cheers DS On Mon, 5 May 2014 10:35:24 -0400 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: Very true. It doesn't mean that a new computer is better than the old one being recycled. Depends on what you consider better. Most folks think faster, more powerful, and cheaper is better. A new twist I heard that Micro Soft is requiring computer vendors to write their bios so that only win 8 will boot on them. They want to get rid of Linux.Once a win 8 machine forever a win 8 machine. Look Stuff Up. It's not that simple, and you *can* dual boot Win8 and Linux. It's just more of a pain to set up. What you are dealing with is UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface), which is intended as a *replacement* for the traditional BIOS. This is not just Microsoft. It's a computer *industry* initiative. See http://www.uefi.org/ for the website devoted to the effort, and look at the Membership tab to see a list of companies involved. cheers DS __ Dennis - - Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Stop Insomnia in 2 Weeks Use the Fisher Wallace Stimulator® for 20 minutes before bedtime http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/5367a377ed0de23776c8emp04duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user