[Freedos-user] (no subject)
Have an old 80 gig hard drive with an HPA(host protected access) partition, which is wasting space; tried to use linux function 'hdparm' on it using an ide/usb adapter, but recieved message bad or missing sense data, exactly what I get with flash drives and sd cards. Threw the drive in an old ide machine to hit it with hdparm, but the machine is non-functional. My other machine is sata only. Any ideas to do this? -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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You could try using a SATA to IDE adapter in your other machine. That would probably provide the low-level access to the partition table the software needs. Do you know why the old IDE machine is non-functional? If you have the time to troubleshoot the problem it might be something cheap and easy to repair and you could restore that machine for purposes like this. Those are my ideas, good luck. On 5/15/14, kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com wrote: Have an old 80 gig hard drive with an HPA(host protected access) partition, which is wasting space; tried to use linux function 'hdparm' on it using an ide/usb adapter, but recieved message bad or missing sense data, exactly what I get with flash drives and sd cards. Threw the drive in an old ide machine to hit it with hdparm, but the machine is non-functional. My other machine is sata only. Any ideas to do this? -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Do you have a floppy drive? If you do then make a dos bootable floppy. Find wipe on the web and download it. Run wipe to clean the drive of everything. Your floppy should also have fdisk format on it. After wipe is finished type fdisk/mbr. This should give you a fresh MBR. Then use fdisk to install a fat32 partition. Next format C:. Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without being activated. You can also buy a cf to ide adapter on Amazon.com and run a CF chip on your ide port. Another good dos program is IDECHECK. It will read out all your registers and test the drive for speed. cheers DS On Thu, 15 May 2014 21:57:11 +0800 kurt godel wb2...@gmail.com writes: Have an old 80 gig hard drive with an HPA(host protected access) partition, which is wasting space; tried to use linux function 'hdparm' on it using an ide/usb adapter, but recieved message bad or missing sense data, exactly what I get with flash drives and sd cards. Threw the drive in an old ide machine to hit it with hdparm, but the machine is non-functional. My other machine is sata only. Any ideas to do this? ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** Do THIS before eating carbs #40;every time#41; 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5374dab4616645ab4612est02duc -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without being activated. XP on FAT32? shudder DS __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
dmccunney wrote: Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without being activated. XP on FAT32? shudder Why the shudder? I have never run WXP on anything but FAT32. Currently it is on four machines in the office plus whatever is in the shop. It is a matter of cross-platform access; everything can use FAT32, share data, and perform maintenance. Ray -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] hpa
I too have always used xp on fat! As for ide to sata adapter, the sata machine is too cramped to fit it. As for wipe, is that a dos app? Are you sure it could remove the HPA partition? I have already used a bootable cd with active killdisk to wipe the drive, but, ostensibly, regular wipers cannot even access the HPA to delete it. I know 'hdparm' can do it at low level access. Trust me, the ide machine is kaput!. -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Ray Davison ray...@charter.net wrote: dmccunney wrote: Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without being activated. XP on FAT32? shudder Why the shudder? I have never run WXP on anything but FAT32. Currently it is on four machines in the office plus whatever is in the shop. It is a matter of cross-platform access; everything can use FAT32, share data, and perform maintenance. Why the shudder? Dead easy. FAT *sucks* as a file system. The advantage is that it's well understood and widely implemented, and just about everything knows how to read it. The disadvantage is that it's the opposite of robust, lacks redundancy, lacks any notion of rights and permissions because there's no place in the file system to store the needed metadata, and $DIETY help you if you ever have bad file system damage. I've spent way too much time over the years trying to repair damaged FAT file systems. Have a problem? Run CHKDSK. CHKDSK will find an assortment of lost clusters, and give them names like FILE.CHK in a FOUND.000 directory. Can you actually do anything with them? Unlikely - they probably aren't complete and are unusable. Your normal option is to simply delete them, and the FOUND.000 directory. Were they parts of something important that is now truncated and broken? Too bad, and you better have a backup copy of whatever got trashed. I use NTFS on Win2K and XP, and would not use anything else. Why? It's robust. On the infrequent occasions NFTS has problems, CHKDSK simply fixes them, and puts everything back under it's right name in it's proper location. The only time I ever saw that *not* happen was when a directory entry happened to be sitting on a bad block. CHKDSK collected the files under their right names and assigned them to a FOUND.000 directory. All I had to do was rename the directory to what the original had been. It supports rights and permissions. 2K and XP introduced the concept that there may be more than one user on the machine, and NTFS provides storage for the metadata to specify what user owns what files and what permissions that user has. Through XP, Windows used the assumption that the user of the machine was the Administrator with all powers to do everything. That changed in Vista/7/8, and by default, the user is *not* Administrator. That was a security measure. as many exploits that target windows require administrator privileges to do their dirty work, and bounce off if the user is *not* running as Administrator. Under XP, you can create a Power User (XP Pro) or Limited User (XP Home) userid that works the same way, but you must be under NTFS for it to work. It supports links. Under Unix, a directory entry doesn't point to a file. It points to a kernel maintained data structure called an inode, that holds the information on the file's owner, owner's group, permissions, and creation/access times, plus pointers to the actual blocks on disk where the file resides. This permits a level of indirection. You can have the same file appear in more than one directory, or appear under several different names in the same directory. The Unix vi editor is an example. Ex is the line editor. Vi is the full screen editor. View is a read only file viewer. All three are links to the same underlying program. It looks to see what name it was called by, and behaves accordingly. You can have hard links, which are all on teh same file system, or symbolic links, which can span file systems. A symbolic link is similar in concept to a Windows shortcut, but more powerful. It's a pointer to a file or directory on another file system, and the OS follows it an opens the file. You have to do some digging to discover that something *is* a symlink. NTFS5 supports hard links, and under Vista/Win7/Win8, symbolic links. A Japanese developer wrote a driver that provides symlink support under 2K and XP as well. I make use of this. NTFS supports compression, on a directory basis. I make extensive use of this. NTFS supports encryption, on a directory basis. I multiboot Windows, Linux, and FreeDOS. Windows is on NTFS. Linux is on ext4. FreeDOS is on FAT32. Linux has native support for NTFS, and can see the Windows partition and access stuff on it. I found an open source driver for Windows that lets it read/write the Linux ext4 partitions. Windows and Linux can both read/write the FAT32 partition. FreeDOS can only see its own parition, but I don't *care*. I have no need to access Windows or Linux files from FreeDOS. If WinXP on FAT32 works for you, fine. I wouldn't touch it with a stick. Too much of what I'm accustomed to doing simply can't be done on FAT32. FAT originated in the days when hardware was much less powerful, and the sort of file systems on larger systems weren't possible. They have been on PCs for quite some time, and I see no reason not to take advantage of them. I have no need to restrict
[Freedos-user] Command Line Parsing
I've noticed a difference in command line parsing between FreeDOS and PC-DOS. Both FreeDOS and PC-DOS put the command line, starting with the character after the executable, in a buffer at offset 0x80 in the PSP. The behavior difference I see with FreeDOS is if the first non-blank character after the executable is a left parenthesis, then FreeDOS sets 0x80 in the PSP to zero so the rest of the command line is not available. Examples of what is in PSP 0x80: Command Line: SOMEPROG (aa bb cc FreeDOS: \0 DOS: (aa bb cc\0 Command Line: SOMEPROG abc (cc dd ee FreeDOS and DOS: abc (cc dd ee\0 Does anyone know why FreeDOS behaves differently when the first character after the executable is a left parenthesis? -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Command Line Parsing
Hi, On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Jack Jackson j...@pebbleridge.com wrote: I've noticed a difference in command line parsing between FreeDOS and PC-DOS. The behavior difference I see with FreeDOS is if the first non-blank character after the executable is a left parenthesis, then FreeDOS sets 0x80 in the PSP to zero so the rest of the command line is not available. Does anyone know why FreeDOS behaves differently when the first character after the executable is a left parenthesis? No idea, that's very weird. Please try both 0.82 and 0.84 to confirm this bug exists in both. (I assume 4DOS doesn't have this problem.) Feel free to make an official bug report on SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/bugs/ -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
Since MS has stopped supporting XP, you probably won't be able to get it activated, anymore. Nothing wrong with fat32 unless you're really thinking BIG.. DS On Thu, 15 May 2014 11:30:22 -0400 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dale E Sterner sunbeam...@juno.com wrote: Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without being activated. XP on FAT32? shudder DS __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 - - Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user Best Stock Tips for 2014 Top Investor Reveals 19 Stocks You Must have in Your Portfolio in 2014 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/53756153232ab615308aamp06duc ** From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 *** -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
