Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Ralf Quint freedos...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/16/2014 4:01 PM, dmccunney wrote: DOS is not dead but people need to treat DOS as DOS, not as a second coming of Linux... The fundamental issue for DOS is exactly what you *do* with it, and *why* you might use DOS in preference to something else like Linux. The fact that something *can* run DOS doesn't necessarily mean it *should*. Works the other way around as well. Just because you can get basic web browsing features or other uses of the Internet on (Free)DOS, doesn't mean you should either... Precisely. I don't even try. In my case, the question of Why use DOS? is mostly for fun, and to run a few ancient DOS apps I still use. The machine that runs FreeDOS is largely a testbed to see what performance I can wring out of limited hardware. It more-or-less runs Win2K (but *not* XP) and a couple of flavors of Linux, and FreeDOS. Win2K and Linux plod along. FreeDOS flies on it. But I *don't* try to surf the web from it, in any OS. It's simply too slow, even with a CAT5 connection to a port on my router. I also don't attempt to watch YouTube. Audio is okay, but video is a series of still pictures. The machine simply isn't powerful enough to do such things acceptably. My desktop is a refurb Dell unit, with a quad-core Xeon CPU at 2.4ghz, 8GB RAM, and boots from a 240GB SSD, with an ATI video card with a gig of video RAM. It multi-boots Win 7 Pro and Ubuntu 14.04, nad has a CAT5 connection to my router, which connects to a 100mbit feed from my ISP. It's a pleasure to use. Things like web surfing and YouTube are done on it. I can even run the few old DOS apps on it, using the vDOS fork of the open source DOSBox emulator. vDOS is Windows specifric and intended to run character mode business apps. (There is extensive discussion on the WordStar list on how to configure it to run WS 7 on 64 bit Win 7 and Win 8.1 machines.) Folks complaining about the problems involved in trying to surf the web and view video from DOS are frankly wasting their time. It might be theoretically possible to enhance DOS support for such things, but it would be a significant development effort. Who would do it, and why would they bother? No one is going to *pay* to have it done, and there are more rewarding things to code for fun. Ralf __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
I got my brand new Samsung Tablet about three months ago. I bought a small USB hub and connected a mouse, flash disk and keyboard to that and could use them all with my XFDOS distro. But frankly I rather use my desktop PC instead. Georg -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] MetaDOS floppy distro - XFDOS - DOS4WIN64 Qemu environment
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Georg Potthast mail...@georgpotthast.de wrote: I got my brand new Samsung Tablet about three months ago. I bought a small USB hub and connected a mouse, flash disk and keyboard to that and could use them all with my XFDOS distro. I have a generic 7 Android tablet. It doesn't have Bluetooth, so an external keyboard must be USB. A USB-microUSB converter lets me plug in my Logitech portable keyboard and it works fine. Add a hub and I can use keyboard and mouse. Add a powered hub and I can connect my Seagate USB HD, via a freeware third party driver using NTFS3g that lets Android mount and read the NTFS file system. (The Android device must be rooted, but mine is.) The powered hub is required to support the HD - the tablet can't do it unaided. I can run a few old DOS apps on the tablet via an Android port of DOSBox. This is mostly proof of concept. My need to do it in practice is nil. But frankly I rather use my desktop PC instead. Under most circumstances, so do I. The Android tablet is primarily an eBook viewer, but in a pinch it can substitute for a laptop in a much smaller and lighter form factor. Lighter is good. Smaller can be a problem, as a lot of what I do really wants a larger screen. The 23 monitor on my desktop is about right. Georg __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS website changes
Hi all! Just a quick note to let everyone know about some changes to the FreeDOS website. I've been working on improving the FreeDOS website, and tonight I started making the first user-visible changes. Up until now, the changes have been pretty minor, and probably invisible to most folks (some link cleanup, behind-the-scenes cleanup, fixing typos, ... that sort of thing). You may notice that the Welcome to FreeDOS section at the top is no longer collapsed. Before, you had to click on each question to see the answer - and the website would only show one answer at a time. Not everyone likes this behavior (including me, at least recently) so I am changing it. In time, I'll make this cleaner. It's too long right now. Maybe I'll re-write it, or restructure the page to do without it. I'll work on that over the holiday break. Other than that, I haven't made any dramatic changes to the website. I only want to clean things up, not change everything. No structural changes. No big changes to the design or anything. What do you think of the website improvements so far? -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user