Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 and DOSBox

2016-12-26 Thread dmccunney 
On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:
> How can I add the power of FreeDOS to my DOSBox?
>
> Well, here you go. Keep all of the flexibility that DOSBox provides. Yet,
> add the power of the FreeDOS Command Shell and other FreeDOS utilities. The
> FreeDOS installer supports DOSBox. Please note, this is not a pure OS
> install. But, a special way the installer handles DOSBox. The FreeDOS kernel
> is not loaded. This allows the host system to interact with the DOSBox
> filesystem and behave more like a normal DOSBox install.

I'll look when I get a moment.

I've already done some of that that on DOSBox here.  The problem is
that DOSBox is intended to allow users to run old DOS games on things
that aren't DOS systems.  It supports various DOS graphics and sound
options, but only enough of a DOS shell to be able to run games from
the command line.  In particular, only a subset of DOS commands are
implemented, and pipes and I/O redirection aren't.

DOSBox here is tweaked with the NANSI.COM ANSI driver, FreeDOS
COMMAND.COM and the 4DOS.COM COMMAND.COM replacement, and an
assortment of other DOS commands and utilities not present in native
DOSBox. The FreeDOS and 4DOS shells implement the pipes and I/O
redirection DOSBox lacks The one bit that can't be implemented is
support for drivers loaded from CONFIG.SYS, because DOSBox doesn't
implement it.  It loads and uses TSRs just fine.

It all works well enough that I have an assortment of old DOS apps
running on my ARM CPU based Android tablet, using an Android port of
DOSBox.  The one I use is Magic DOSBox Free, which gets the nod
because it implements support for passing Ctrl-key combos through to
the underlying app, and a couple of editors that use the WordStar
command set are specific use cases here.

I have DOS and 4DOS batch files in the root of the mounted C: drive
that set things up as desired to run COMMAND or 4DOS when I run
DOSBox.

It's nice to see the FreeDOS installer now supporting DOSBox as a platform.
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[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 and DOSBox

2016-12-26 Thread Jerome Shidel 
How can I add the power of FreeDOS to my DOSBox? 

Well, here you go. Keep all of the flexibility that DOSBox provides. Yet, add 
the power of the FreeDOS Command Shell and other FreeDOS utilities. The FreeDOS 
installer supports DOSBox. Please note, this is not a pure OS install. But, a 
special way the installer handles DOSBox. The FreeDOS kernel is not loaded. 
This allows the host system to interact with the DOSBox filesystem and behave 
more like a normal DOSBox install.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread Jerome Shidel 
William, 

> On Dec 26, 2016, at 12:16 PM, William Dudley  wrote:
> 
> Jerome,
> 
> Thanks, that was useful.  It would be better if it also discussed the settings
> needed in VirtualBox.  I figured it out eventually but it took me a bit of 
> googling
> to figure out.
> 
> Bill Dudley

I’m glad you found it useful. 

When it comes to settings, I’ve mostly just be using the ones that VirtualBox 
defaults to when installing DOS.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread Jerome Shidel 
Made a quick YouTube video of doing a VirtualBox install and how to add 
networking support.

https://youtu.be/k0sP1VAo0D8
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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.2 official release!

2016-12-26 Thread Ulrich Hansen 
Congratulations! Thanks to everybody who put so much work in it! 

Merry Christmas!

> Am 25.12.2016 um 16:17 schrieb Jim Hall :
> 
> I am proud to announce the release of FreeDOS 1.2! You can download it from 
> our website at www.freedos.org.
> 
> The latest official FreeDOS distribution is the result of the hard work from 
> many people. Thanks to everyone in the FreeDOS Project for their work towards 
> this new release! There are too many of you to recognize individually, but 
> you have all helped enormously. Thank you!
> 
> DOS is one of the oldest PC operating systems. FreeDOS has an equally long 
> history. We started the FreeDOS Project in 1994 to create a free, open source 
> software version of DOS. We made our first Alpha release in September 1994, 
> and our first Beta in March 1998. In September 2006, we finally released 
> FreeDOS 1.0. And in January 2012, we released FreeDOS 1.1.
> 
> The new FreeDOS 1.2 is mostly an incremental change over FreeDOS 1.1, 
> although you'll find a few nice surprises.
> 
> FreeDOS 1.2 now makes it easier to connect to a network. We include a 
> revamped network setup and useful network applications to get you online. Try 
> the Dillo web browser for a graphical web experience, or the Links web 
> browser if you want just the text.
> 
> If you're interested in updated functionality, you can find new tools under 
> the Utilities section. For example, FreeDOS 1.2 provides several image 
> enhancement programs like Pngcrush and Gifsicle. Or you can enhance the DOS 
> command line with Unix-like utilities like sed, grep, tee, head, and bc.
> 
> Many people use FreeDOS to play games, and FreeDOS 1.2 now includes several 
> open source games for you to try. We include Freedoom and Boom for classic 
> first-person shooter fans. Arcade-style game fans will like Wing, a familiar 
> space shooter game, or Kiloblaster, a fast-paced arcade shooter. Classic 
> gamers will want to try Nethack, Invaders, Sudoku, and Tetris. For those who 
> want to play their own classic DOS games, we provide other tools like 
> Slowdown, so you can run certain older games on a fast modern computer.
> 
> But I think the first thing you'll notice about FreeDOS 1.2 is the new 
> installer! I wanted to make the install process an easy one, for new and 
> experienced users alike. And we have that in the new FreeDOS 1.2 installer, 
> thanks to Jerome Shidel. If you are a new user, the installer makes it easy 
> to install FreeDOS and get going with a few defaults. If you're an 
> experienced DOS user, you can unlock the Advanced installer that lets you 
> tweak the FreeDOS install to your preference.
> 
> I'm very excited for the new FreeDOS 1.2 distribution!
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread William Dudley 
Ah-hah.  Nothing works if you have switchar='-'.

NOW, fresh boot, FDIMPLE manages to install FDNET package.

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:

>
> > On Dec 25, 2016, at 4:57 PM, William Dudley  wrote:
> >
> > Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?
>
> No guide needed under VirtualBox
>
> Install the FDNET package and reboot.
>
> If you downloaded a CD version and did a FULL (not BASE) install, just:
>
> 1) boot the VM
> 2) attach the FreeDOS 1.2 CD
> 3) run FDIMPLES
> 4) Select FDNET under the networking group and pick OK.
> 5) reboot.
>
> Done.
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread William Dudley 
Regan,

Where is the "fdinstall" program?  I cannot find one on my FreeDOS install.

When I do "dir /s fdinstall.exe" I get "File not found.".  Ditto for "
fdinstall.com".

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 8:45 PM, regan  wrote:

> Hello Bill,
>
> Using Freedos 1.2 and Virtual box Version 5.1.10 r112026 (Qt5.6.2)
>
> When I installed Freedos, I installed the standard CD image, I got a second
> disk path D:
> I did this:
> cd C:\fdos\bin
> dir D:\net
> C:
> rem foreach package in the directory listing I did (each package) becomes
> each zip file.
> fdinstall install d:\net\(each package).zip
> fdinstall install d:\net\(each package).zip
> fdinstall install d:\net\(each package).zip
> 
> fdinstall install d:\net\(each package).zip
> reboot
>
> To test this I did the following..
>
> I did a wget mySAN\filepath
> eg:
> wget 192.168.0.171:/unix/algol.txt
>
> ... and it just worked.
>
> I have the entire turbo gameworks, turbo pascal, turbo this-or-that toolbox
> on 5.25" floppies somewhere.. ;-) ... BTW, I won a Xeon Phi as a university
> prize but I have nothing to put it in, so it sits in the packaging, whats
> the deal with the Phi thing in your signature?
>
> Regan
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread William Dudley 
Jerome,

When I try this, I see this on screen after selecting "OK":

install d:\net\fdnet.zip  (white text on blue)
Aborted.
C:\>

If I type "install", I get 'bad command or filename - "install".'

>From where does the "install" program come?

dir /s install.exe returns "File not found."  Ditto for "install.com".

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Jerome Shidel  wrote:

>
> > On Dec 25, 2016, at 4:57 PM, William Dudley  wrote:
> >
> > Is there a simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?
>
> No guide needed under VirtualBox
>
> Install the FDNET package and reboot.
>
> If you downloaded a CD version and did a FULL (not BASE) install, just:
>
> 1) boot the VM
> 2) attach the FreeDOS 1.2 CD
> 3) run FDIMPLES
> 4) Select FDNET under the networking group and pick OK.
> 5) reboot.
>
> Done.
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Simple guide for networking FreeDOS 1.2 in a VirtualBox VM ?

2016-12-26 Thread William Dudley 
Abe,

Running Linux, so Windows ability to mount VHD is not useful.

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Abe Mishler  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Earlier this summer, one of the many helpful people here pointed out
> that the VHD format can be mounted directly by Windows. You can probably
> find a guide for doing something similar on Linux with whatever format
> you have chosen. The VM of course needs to be off while mounted by the
> host so this method may not be as convenient as networking. But I
> thought I would mention it as a possibility.
>
> Best,
> Abe
>
>
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