Re: [Freedos-user] Again about CPU-loadmeter

2018-01-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi,

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Z. B.  wrote:
>
> My question is: do we have any API offered by FDAPM to allow closer
> examination of CPU load the way similar to the one described in the book?
> I ponder whether it could be possible to create a script/utility, which
> could show the details.

http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/fdapm.htm

"
INFO  Show information about APM status. Displays things like
battery fill percentage.

STATS Show information about APM status / APMDOS. Displays things
like CPU busy time percentage, if resident FDAPM or POWER is
loaded in memory.
"

(Or did you mean something else?)

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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Mario Menezes
Hi Don,

 I suspect that DELL Bios files are different from HP Bios files. Here's
the output from running cabextract on one .exe:

$ cabextract 7520A11.exe
7520A11.exe: no valid cabinets found

All done, errors in processing 1 file(s)


 Thanks for the info about cabextract.

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2018-01-16 20:11 GMT-02:00 Don Flowers :

> I have several HP notebooks with similar results. I have found CABEXT to
> be very useful  for extracting the DOS executable from the BIOS update.
> Maybe the DELL BIOS has a similar pack.?
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Jim Hall  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Mario Menezes 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I've to say that using a Windows PE iso (got from here
>> https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/255-winpese-x64/)  and
>> LiveUSB tool (http://live.learnfree.eu/en/) to create the bootable
>> pendrive I was able to run the firmware upgrade files.
>> >
>> > I'll still post to Dell community forums to have some official word
>> from them with regard to DOS support as stated in their download page.
>> Unfortunately, my notebook is quite old and its warranty has expired; so
>> the community forums is my only way to contact them, I think.
>> >
>> > Once again, thanks for all your attention and help.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Just curious: When you were able to run it, what was the output after
>> "Test"?
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Mario Menezes
Hi Jim,

  If there was a 'Test.' message I could not see it.
  After running the .exe file, it prompted me with a dialog about the
process -- yes, it seems that it needs some Windows environment behind
(I've very little knowledge about Windows, I've stoped using it on my
machines since Win95).  Unfortunately, a further battery problem prevented
me from finishing the update process, but it went far beyond from the
FreeDOS experience. A new battery is on the way and I hope to have it by
the end of this week. I'll report here the complete process, with success,
I hope.

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2018-01-16 19:17 GMT-02:00 Jim Hall :

> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Mario Menezes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've to say that using a Windows PE iso (got from here
> https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/255-winpese-x64/)  and
> LiveUSB tool (http://live.learnfree.eu/en/) to create the bootable
> pendrive I was able to run the firmware upgrade files.
> >
> > I'll still post to Dell community forums to have some official word from
> them with regard to DOS support as stated in their download page.
> Unfortunately, my notebook is quite old and its warranty has expired; so
> the community forums is my only way to contact them, I think.
> >
> > Once again, thanks for all your attention and help.
> >
> > Best regards,
>
>
>
> Just curious: When you were able to run it, what was the output after
> "Test"?
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Again about CPU-loadmeter

2018-01-16 Thread Jim Hall
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Z. B.  wrote:
> I asked about this "a while" ago, now being back to that question.
>
> Have a look at pages from "Using MS-DOS 6.22" by Jim Cooper, describing
> functionality of POWER.EXE utility - I mean pages from 852 to 857 (it's
> available e.g. in "Google Books" and various places).
>
> It's splitted into two parts: a device driver, and actual utility.
>
> My question is: do we have any API offered by FDAPM to allow closer
> examination of CPU load the way similar to the one described in the book?
> I ponder whether it could be possible to create a script/utility, which
> could show the details.


I don't know, but Eric can answer.

Also: The code for FDAPM is at http://www.auersoft.eu/soft/ so it's
possible to look at the code yourself to examine if it already has
this API.

You can find the source code by visiting the FreeDOS website
(www.freedos.org) and clicking "What's included" (which links to the
software list). At the software list, click "Base" then scroll down to
find "fdapm".

Jim

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[Freedos-user] Again about CPU-loadmeter

2018-01-16 Thread Z. B.
I asked about this "a while" ago, now being back to that question.

Have a look at pages from "Using MS-DOS 6.22" by Jim Cooper, describing
functionality of POWER.EXE utility - I mean pages from 852 to 857 (it's
available e.g. in "Google Books" and various places).

It's splitted into two parts: a device driver, and actual utility.

My question is: do we have any API offered by FDAPM to allow closer
examination of CPU load the way similar to the one described in the book?
I ponder whether it could be possible to create a script/utility, which
could show the details.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Don Flowers
I have several HP notebooks with similar results. I have found CABEXT to be
very useful  for extracting the DOS executable from the BIOS update. Maybe
the DELL BIOS has a similar pack.?

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Jim Hall  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Mario Menezes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've to say that using a Windows PE iso (got from here
> https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/255-winpese-x64/)  and
> LiveUSB tool (http://live.learnfree.eu/en/) to create the bootable
> pendrive I was able to run the firmware upgrade files.
> >
> > I'll still post to Dell community forums to have some official word from
> them with regard to DOS support as stated in their download page.
> Unfortunately, my notebook is quite old and its warranty has expired; so
> the community forums is my only way to contact them, I think.
> >
> > Once again, thanks for all your attention and help.
> >
> > Best regards,
>
>
>
> Just curious: When you were able to run it, what was the output after
> "Test"?
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Jim Hall
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Mario Menezes  wrote:
>
> I've to say that using a Windows PE iso (got from here 
> https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/255-winpese-x64/)  and LiveUSB 
> tool (http://live.learnfree.eu/en/) to create the bootable pendrive I was 
> able to run the firmware upgrade files.
>
> I'll still post to Dell community forums to have some official word from them 
> with regard to DOS support as stated in their download page. Unfortunately, 
> my notebook is quite old and its warranty has expired; so the community 
> forums is my only way to contact them, I think.
>
> Once again, thanks for all your attention and help.
>
> Best regards,



Just curious: When you were able to run it, what was the output after "Test"?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Mario Menezes
Hi Karen,

I've to say that using a Windows PE iso (got from here
https://toolslib.net/downloads/viewdownload/255-winpese-x64/)  and LiveUSB
tool (http://live.learnfree.eu/en/) to create the bootable pendrive I was
able to run the firmware upgrade files.

I'll still post to Dell community forums to have some official word from
them with regard to DOS support as stated in their download page.
Unfortunately, my notebook is quite old and its warranty has expired; so
the community forums is my only way to contact them, I think.

Once again, thanks for all your attention and help.

Best regards,



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2018-01-16 16:17 GMT-02:00 Karen Lewellen :

> Hi Mario,
> My experience which clearly may not match is that dell drivers may
> anticipate that you are running DOS under windows itself.  if the
> information does not specify which editions of Dos, perhaps? write to their
> well staffed support discussion list outlining your problem, and asking
> for which editions of Dos the driver was written.  Has been a few years,
> but my memory is that their support team really contributes to their
> support discussion lists.
> We got dell related work-arounds that way.
> Much success,
> Karen
>
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Mario Menezes wrote:
>
> Hi,
>>
>> @Karen
>>
>>  Yes, the bios update file is stated for Windows/DOS; this is a paste from
>> Dell site:
>>
>> "Description: This package provides the Dell System BIOS Update and is
>> supported on Dell Inspiron Notebook 7520 for Windows and DOS Operating
>> Systems."
>>
>> @Christian
>>
>>  I've tried almost every pointed solution in those links, but none of them
>> mentioned the TEMP trick that Jim gave above. I might give it a try before
>> going to Windows PE.
>>
>>  Thanks you all for your attention and help.
>>
>>  Best regards
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> 2018-01-16 15:02 GMT-02:00 Karen Lewellen :
>>
>> Hi Mario,
>>> I do not run freedos, but ms dos 7 ish.  However, I did spend some time a
>>> while  back working with this line, not specific model, of dell machines.
>>> A few questions.
>>> This bios update file is indeed specifically for dos?
>>> meaning  Dell specifically states  on the download page where you found
>>> the file  that it works in DOS,  including the  editions of DOS?
>>>  Karen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Mario Menezes wrote:
>>>
>>> I really appreciate your help, Tom.
>>>


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 2018-01-16 12:25 GMT-02:00 Tom Ehlert :

 Hi,

>
>>
>
>   I'm trying to run a Dell bios update file for my Inspiron 7520.
>
>>   I've created the FreeDOS usb stick, copy the bios update file to
>> it, can boot into it, return to DOS Prompt without installing, but
>> when I try to run the exe file all I get is (reproducing the FreeDOS
>>
>> screen below):
>
>
> C:\>>7520A09.exe
>
> Test.
>>
>> C:\>>_
>
>
>   Nothing else happens!
>
>>
>>
>
>   What else should I do in order to run this executable?
>
>>
>>
> if you have trouble running a DELL executable, you should ask DELL
> support.
>
> Tom
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Mario,
My experience which clearly may not match is that dell drivers may 
anticipate that you are running DOS under windows itself.  if the 
information does not specify which editions of Dos, perhaps? write to 
their well staffed support discussion list outlining your problem, and 
asking  for which editions of Dos the driver was written.  Has been a few 
years, but my memory is that their support team really contributes to their 
support discussion lists.

We got dell related work-arounds that way.
Much success,
Karen



On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Mario Menezes wrote:


Hi,

@Karen

 Yes, the bios update file is stated for Windows/DOS; this is a paste from
Dell site:

"Description: This package provides the Dell System BIOS Update and is
supported on Dell Inspiron Notebook 7520 for Windows and DOS Operating
Systems."

@Christian

 I've tried almost every pointed solution in those links, but none of them
mentioned the TEMP trick that Jim gave above. I might give it a try before
going to Windows PE.

 Thanks you all for your attention and help.

 Best regards



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2018-01-16 15:02 GMT-02:00 Karen Lewellen :


Hi Mario,
I do not run freedos, but ms dos 7 ish.  However, I did spend some time a
while  back working with this line, not specific model, of dell machines.
A few questions.
This bios update file is indeed specifically for dos?
meaning  Dell specifically states  on the download page where you found
the file  that it works in DOS,  including the  editions of DOS?
 Karen


On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Mario Menezes wrote:

I really appreciate your help, Tom.



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2018-01-16 12:25 GMT-02:00 Tom Ehlert :

Hi,





  I'm trying to run a Dell bios update file for my Inspiron 7520.

  I've created the FreeDOS usb stick, copy the bios update file to
it, can boot into it, return to DOS Prompt without installing, but
when I try to run the exe file all I get is (reproducing the FreeDOS


screen below):


C:\>>7520A09.exe


Test.


C:\>>_


  Nothing else happens!





  What else should I do in order to run this executable?




if you have trouble running a DELL executable, you should ask DELL
support.

Tom



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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Mario Menezes
Hi,

 @Karen

  Yes, the bios update file is stated for Windows/DOS; this is a paste from
Dell site:

"Description: This package provides the Dell System BIOS Update and is
supported on Dell Inspiron Notebook 7520 for Windows and DOS Operating
Systems."

 @Christian

  I've tried almost every pointed solution in those links, but none of them
mentioned the TEMP trick that Jim gave above. I might give it a try before
going to Windows PE.

  Thanks you all for your attention and help.

  Best regards



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2018-01-16 15:02 GMT-02:00 Karen Lewellen :

> Hi Mario,
> I do not run freedos, but ms dos 7 ish.  However, I did spend some time a
> while  back working with this line, not specific model, of dell machines.
> A few questions.
> This bios update file is indeed specifically for dos?
> meaning  Dell specifically states  on the download page where you found
> the file  that it works in DOS,  including the  editions of DOS?
>  Karen
>
>
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Mario Menezes wrote:
>
> I really appreciate your help, Tom.
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> 2018-01-16 12:25 GMT-02:00 Tom Ehlert :
>>
>> Hi,

>>>
>>>
>>>   I'm trying to run a Dell bios update file for my Inspiron 7520.
   I've created the FreeDOS usb stick, copy the bios update file to
 it, can boot into it, return to DOS Prompt without installing, but
 when I try to run the exe file all I get is (reproducing the FreeDOS

>>> screen below):
>>>
>>>
>>> C:\>>7520A09.exe
>>>
 Test.

>>> C:\>>_
>>>
>>>
>>>   Nothing else happens!

>>>
>>>
>>>   What else should I do in order to run this executable?

>>>
>>> if you have trouble running a DELL executable, you should ask DELL
>>> support.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Karen Lewellen

Hi Mario,
I do not run freedos, but ms dos 7 ish.  However, I did spend some time a 
while  back working with this line, not specific model, of dell machines.

A few questions.
This bios update file is indeed specifically for dos?
meaning  Dell specifically states  on the download page where you found 
the file  that it works in DOS,  including the  editions of DOS?

 Karen


On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Mario Menezes wrote:


I really appreciate your help, Tom.


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2018-01-16 12:25 GMT-02:00 Tom Ehlert :


Hi,




  I'm trying to run a Dell bios update file for my Inspiron 7520.
  I've created the FreeDOS usb stick, copy the bios update file to
it, can boot into it, return to DOS Prompt without installing, but
when I try to run the exe file all I get is (reproducing the FreeDOS

screen below):


C:\>>7520A09.exe

Test.

C:\>>_



  Nothing else happens!




  What else should I do in order to run this executable?


if you have trouble running a DELL executable, you should ask DELL
support.

Tom



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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Christian Imhorst
Hi Mario,


Am 16.01.2018 4:28 nachm. schrieb "Mario Menezes" :


 My next try will be a Windows PE iso image from someone called Gandalf (
https://downloads.sayrodigital.com/winpe-7/). It seems that Windows PE can
run these executables.



hope that will help you. I found an interesting discussion about Bios
Updates on Dell machines on AskUbuntu:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/100945/how-do-i-update-the-bios-of-a-dell-laptop

Seems that there are different ways to update the Bios on a Dell and that
it depends on how old the computer is.

Wish you luck.

Kind regards
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Jim Hall
> 2018-01-16 13:20 GMT-02:00 Christian Imhorst :
>> Hi,
>>
>> what kind of Dell do you have?
>>
>> Do you know their support page? There is a tutorial how to flash the Bios 
>> with FreeDOS or with a Linux system installed:
>>
>> https://www.dell.com/support/article/de/de/debsdt1/sln171755/updating-the-dell-bios-in-linux-and-ubuntu-environments?lang=en
>>
>> Hope it can help you.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Mario Menezes  wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
>  I've followed all information on Dell page for Linux users, I've created 5+ 
> different types of images with freedos, using at least 3 different freedos 
> versions, etc, etc. I also followed some additional information on Ubuntu 
> wiki pages as well as on Arch Linux user forums.
>
>  It doesn't matter which of the above process I use, when it come to FreeDOS 
> prompt, the result is the same: "Test." and nothing else.
>
>  It seems that FreeDOS is not able to run these executables, at least in my 
> Inspiron 7520 (15SE).
>


The "Test" output implies that the program is attempting to perform a
self-test before it installs the BIOS update. This is likely trying to
write the BIOS image to a temporary directory, then run a checksum on
it. You should check that you have a TEMP value set, and that it
points to an existing, writable directory.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Mario Menezes
Hi Christian,

 I've followed all information on Dell page for Linux users, I've created
5+ different types of images with freedos, using at least 3 different
freedos versions, etc, etc. I also followed some additional information on
Ubuntu wiki pages as well as on Arch Linux user forums.

 It doesn't matter which of the above process I use, when it come to
FreeDOS prompt, the result is the same: "Test." and nothing else.

 It seems that FreeDOS is not able to run these executables, at least in my
Inspiron 7520 (15SE).

 I took special care when downloading the BIOS update files, checking all
md5sums, etc.

 My next try will be a Windows PE iso image from someone called Gandalf (
https://downloads.sayrodigital.com/winpe-7/). It seems that Windows PE can
run these executables.

 Thanks for your help.

 Best regards

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2018-01-16 13:20 GMT-02:00 Christian Imhorst :

> Hi,
>
> what kind of Dell do you have?
>
> Do you know their support page? There is a tutorial how to flash the Bios
> with FreeDOS or with a Linux system installed:
>
> https://www.dell.com/support/article/de/de/debsdt1/
> sln171755/updating-the-dell-bios-in-linux-and-ubuntu-environments?lang=en
>
> Hope it can help you.
>
> Best regards
> Christian
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Christian Imhorst
Hi,

what kind of Dell do you have?

Do you know their support page? There is a tutorial how to flash the Bios
with FreeDOS or with a Linux system installed:

https://www.dell.com/support/article/de/de/debsdt1/sln171755/updating-the-dell-bios-in-linux-and-ubuntu-environments?lang=en

Hope it can help you.

Best regards
Christian
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Mario Menezes
I really appreciate your help, Tom.


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2018-01-16 12:25 GMT-02:00 Tom Ehlert :

> > Hi,
>
>
> >   I'm trying to run a Dell bios update file for my Inspiron 7520.
> >   I've created the FreeDOS usb stick, copy the bios update file to
> > it, can boot into it, return to DOS Prompt without installing, but
> > when I try to run the exe file all I get is (reproducing the FreeDOS
> screen below):
>
>
> C:\>>7520A09.exe
> > Test.
> C:\>>_
>
>
> >   Nothing else happens!
>
>
> >   What else should I do in order to run this executable?
>
> if you have trouble running a DELL executable, you should ask DELL
> support.
>
> Tom
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Tom Ehlert
> Hi,


>   I'm trying to run a Dell bios update file for my Inspiron 7520.
>   I've created the FreeDOS usb stick, copy the bios update file to
> it, can boot into it, return to DOS Prompt without installing, but
> when I try to run the exe file all I get is (reproducing the FreeDOS screen 
> below):


C:\>>7520A09.exe
> Test.
C:\>>_


>   Nothing else happens! 


>   What else should I do in order to run this executable?

if you have trouble running a DELL executable, you should ask DELL
support.

Tom


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[Freedos-user] Trying to run a Dell bios update exe in FreeDOS 1.2

2018-01-16 Thread Mario Menezes
Hi,

  I'm trying to run a Dell bios update file for my Inspiron 7520.
  I've created the FreeDOS usb stick, copy the bios update file to it, can
boot into it, return to DOS Prompt without installing, but when I try to
run the exe file all I get is (reproducing the FreeDOS screen below):

C:\>7520A09.exe
Test.
C:\>_

  Nothing else happens!

  What else should I do in order to run this executable?

  I would appreciate any help.

  TIA
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