Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
On 1/5/2021 1:01 AM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
I still have a problem, Jim:
That's the nice thing about DOS - everything is statically linked,
and specific paths usually don't matter much.
As I had tried to explain to Ralf, I have an old Dell 32-bit computer.
That is physically-separate from my 64-bit Linux computers--save for
sharing a VGA monitor with the laptop, via a KVM switch. The Dell is
only using FreeDOS. None of my computers are using emulators!
I rebooted the Dell, which said: "Welcome to the FreeDOS 1.2 operating
system...".
Then I tried the following.
C:\>install=\fdos\opengem\gem.bat
As I have previously posted, I have been unable to use "install" on
the FreeDOS machine! So The above yielded this error.
{Bad command or filename - "install".}
Yet "help install" says: "INSTALL is a CONFIG.SYS /FDCONFIG.SYS
command.".
And just "help" says: "These are the config.sys /fdconfig.sys
commands:... install".
So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the
above error, when I try to use "install!.
It seems you have never used DOS before (or only a very long time ago).
That "INSTALL" you are referring to is a special config.sys command to
install (load) device drivers and such. It has nothing to do with
"installing an app" (there is strictly seen nothing that needs to be
"installed" in DOS, unlike in a lot of newer OS).
.BAT is (along with .COM and .EXE) a direct executable file. However to
run directly executable files (like the GEM.BAT you mentioned) you
either have to
- provide the full path (like "\fdos\opengem\gem.bat" to start it (if
that folder has been previously been extracted), or
- change in the opengem folder (with "cd opengem") and type "gem.bat"
- or simply type "gem.bat" if the folder with that executable files is
"in the path" (which is an environment variable and you can check that
by simply typing "path")
Ralf
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
To add to the wonderful GEM discussion, when I run GEM on my modern
laptop running FreeDOS and OpenGEM, GEM produces a blank white screen.
However, in safe mode, it works fine (though some pixmaps or
characters are missing.) So that means that some driver messes with
GEM.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 4:19 AM Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
>
> Concerning a USB stick installation, I wrote:
>
> > In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a
> > test-directory. This is what it contains
>
> Now I have booted the FreeDOS PC into its hard drive. Fdconfig.sys
> therein, contains the following.
>
> {
> SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS
>
> !COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
> !LASTDRIVE=Z
> !BUFFERS=20
> !FILES=40
> !MENUCOLOR=7,0
>
> MENUDEFAULT=1,5
> MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
> MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded
> MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)
> MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
>
> 124?DOS=HIGH
> 12?DOS=UMB
> 124?DOSDATA=UMB
> 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
> 234?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
> 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG
> 34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
> 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
> }
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Concerning a USB stick installation, I wrote:
In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a
test-directory. This is what it contains
Now I have booted the FreeDOS PC into its hard drive. Fdconfig.sys
therein, contains the following.
{
SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS
!COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
!MENUCOLOR=7,0
MENUDEFAULT=1,5
MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded
MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)
MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
124?DOS=HIGH
12?DOS=UMB
124?DOSDATA=UMB
1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
234?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG
34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
}
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
I wrote:
So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the
above error, when I try to use "install!.
I discovered that my old USB stick installation of FreeDOS wasn't
recognised--because I had wrongly inserted it into a network/Ethernet
port! Then replacing that drive into a USB port on my FreeDOS computer,
I booted into that. In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a
test-directory. This is what it contains. But I couldn't even use HELP!
{
!COUNTRY=001,858:\FDSetup\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
!LASTDRIVE=Z
!BUFFERS=20
!FILES=40
DOS=HIGH
DOS=UMB
DOSDATA=UMB
DEVICE=\FDSetup\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
SHELLHIGH=\FDSetup\BIN\COMMAND.COM \FDSetup\BIN /E:2048 /P=\AUTOEXEC.BAT
}
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
I still have a problem, Jim:
That's the nice thing about DOS -
everything is statically linked, and specific paths usually don't matter
much.
As I had tried to explain to Ralf, I have an old Dell 32-bit computer.
That is physically-separate from my 64-bit Linux computers--save for
sharing a VGA monitor with the laptop, via a KVM switch. The Dell is
only using FreeDOS. None of my computers are using emulators!
I rebooted the Dell, which said: "Welcome to the FreeDOS 1.2 operating
system...".
Then I tried the following.
C:\>install=\fdos\opengem\gem.bat
As I have previously posted, I have been unable to use "install" on the
FreeDOS machine! So The above yielded this error.
{Bad command or filename - "install".}
Yet "help install" says: "INSTALL is a CONFIG.SYS /FDCONFIG.SYS command.".
And just "help" says: "These are the config.sys /fdconfig.sys
commands:... install".
So I do not understand why, even after rebooting the Dell, I get the
above error, when I try to use "install!.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Sorry about the confusion, Ralf: Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit computers, so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2. Ok, just to be clear, FreeDOS of course does not run or install on any version of Linux, be it 32bit or 64bit. I have Ubuntu Linux on two 64-bit computers. While I have FreeDOS 1.2 installed on a 32-bit computer. Being a user of both Ubuntu (on 64 bit computers) and FreeDOS (on a 32-bit computer), I chose for the latter version 1.2--and not 1.3 as a more-competent previous-poster had wrongly-assumed of me! Therefor, what you failed to mention, at least I could not find it in any previous post of yours (unless I missed one, had a long and stressful day) is what kind of VM/emulator you are using in order to try and install/run FreeDOS. I had used a 64-bit computer running Ubuntu 20.04.1 to make a FreeDOS CD-ROM. I then put the latter into the 32-bit FreeDOS computer. And I have been since struggling with the latter. -- members.iinet.net.au/~kilgallin/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Further, Jim:
But even if you don't have
FDIMPLES, you can still install packages "manually." Just unzip them and
put the files wherever you like.
From the CD-ROM (D:\UTIL), I unzipped OPENGEM.ZIP.
Now in the 32 bit PC I have C:\FDOS\OPENGEM
Within that, I used MORE on README.TXT.
{Run the "INSTALL.BAT" file
Bad command or filename - "run"
Bad command or filename - "install.bat".}
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Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
On 1/4/2021 11:42 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: As a mere user, Jim, I am finding procedures problematic: On FreeDOS 1.2, the graphical desktops (SEAL, oZone, OpenGEM) are under UTIL. Just as I have installed LTS versions of Ubuntu on my 64-bit computers, so I chose the stable FreeDOS 1.2. Ok, just to be clear, FreeDOS of course does not run or install on any version of Linux, be it 32bit or 64bit. Therefor, what you failed to mention, at least I could not find it in any previous post of yours (unless I missed one, had a long and stressful day) is what kind of VM/emulator you are using in order to try and install/run FreeDOS... Ralf -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
