Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

2021-01-25 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:12 AM Robert Riebisch  wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> > Let me know what you think will make the website easier to use. I'll
> > plan to tackle this in February or March, with plans to deploy in March
> > or April.
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
> Just keep an eye on bandwidth for the front page. Not everyone has VDSL
> or a leased line. ;-)
>
>

Yes, I also want to avoid making the website too "heavy."


Jim
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Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

2021-01-25 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 9:47 AM Dale E Sterner  wrote:

> If you update your website; make sure you keep it open to
> old computers like mine. Update tend to lock out old
> computers like mine.
>
> cheers
> DS
>
>

Yes, I agree. I'm also trying to minimize the javascript on the website. I
use javascript now to let you click through the different screenshots, and
to hide/show the "hamburger" menu icon on mobile devices. But I think I can
do away with both of those.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

2021-01-25 Thread Jim Hall
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 5:51 PM Eric Auer  wrote:

>
> Hi Jim,
>
> > *2. Make it easy to share stuff*
> > Sometimes it would be nice to share a news item with Twitter or other
> > social media. I'm working on an update to the News system that will
> provide
> > "share" buttons to share a news item on Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn.
> > I'd also like to include Reddit.
>
> Please make sure to use the type of share links which only
> trigger when users click on share. It would be evil if you
> help social media to spy on normal freedos website visitors
> by embedding something which phones home.
>
> Definitely! I found that you can create a "share to Facebook" link with
this:
https://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=${URL}

And "share to Twitter" with this:
https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=${URL}=FreeDOS%20FDISK%201%2e3%2e2=freedos

And "share to LinkedIn" with this:
https://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=tre=${URL}==FreeDOS%20FDISK%201%2e3%2e2=FreeDOS

...where *${URL}* is an encoded URL.

No Javascript or "phone home" required. :-)


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Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

2021-01-25 Thread Eric Auer


Hi Jim,

> *2. Make it easy to share stuff*
> Sometimes it would be nice to share a news item with Twitter or other
> social media. I'm working on an update to the News system that will provide
> "share" buttons to share a news item on Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn.
> I'd also like to include Reddit.

Please make sure to use the type of share links which only
trigger when users click on share. It would be evil if you
help social media to spy on normal freedos website visitors
by embedding something which phones home.

Thanks! Eric

PS: It would be nice if the LSM list would be linked directly
from the front page in addition to being linked from "nearby".



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Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

2021-01-25 Thread Dale E Sterner
If you update your website; make sure you keep it open to
old computers like mine. Update tend to lock out old
computers like mine.

cheers
DS


On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:52:51 -0600 Jim Hall  writes:
> Hi everyone
> 
> I'm thinking about making a few changes to the FreeDOS website. But 
> I don't
> want this to be "just another makeover" that makes things pretty. 
> Instead,
> I'm looking for what you will find useful.
> 
> I'm thinking of a few things already:
> 
> *1. Update the wiki*
> The wiki is arguably part of the FreeDOS website, and people go 
> there if
> they can't find the information they are looking for on the rest of 
> the
> site. It seems most people use the website to download FreeDOS, 
> check the
> latest news, find links, and get general information. But if they 
> are
> looking for a "how-to" or other documentation, they look to the wiki 
> for
> that.
> 
> As I mentioned in the get-together today, the wiki is out of date. 
> The wiki
> started as docs we kept in the SourceForge site-wide wiki. When SF 
> stopped
> running a site-wide wiki, they gave all projects an export of their 
> data
> and instructions for how to set up their own MediaWiki. I don't know
> MediaWiki, but I was able to follow the instructions to set up the 
> wiki we
> have now.
> 
> The setup works, but it's really hard for me to do basic "admin" 
> things
> like add new editors. So I need to update that.
> 
> An updated wiki will make it easier to provide up-to-date 
> documentation and
> "how-to" instructions.
> 
> *2. Make it easy to share stuff*
> Sometimes it would be nice to share a news item with Twitter or 
> other
> social media. I'm working on an update to the News system that will 
> provide
> "share" buttons to share a news item on Twitter, Facebook, and 
> LinkedIn.
> I'd also like to include Reddit.
> 
> As a bonus, this update also makes this easier to manage on the 
> back-end.
> 
> *3. Make the front page more welcoming*
> The front page is a quick "landing page" for people to learn about 
> FreeDOS.
> It's not bad, but could be better. I'm planning to embed the latest 
> FreeDOS
> video on the front, since the videos are about *things you can do 
> with
> FreeDOS* or *showing off neat features in FreeDOS*, so I think the 
> video
> will help. I'll also make the screenshots smaller so they don't take 
> up so
> much of the screen.
> 
> I also want to make it easier to start downloading FreeDOS right 
> from the
> front page. I'm not sure yet how I'll do that, but I'm thinking 
> about
> borrowing from the https://getfedora.org/ front page, where they 
> have a
> small info box about each "spin" of the Fedora distro, and a 
> "Download Now"
> button that brings you to a separate page where you actually 
> download
> Fedora. What do you think?
> 
> BTW, you can already access the front page as 
> https://www.freedos.org/ or
> http://www.freedos.org/ or https://freedos.org/ or 
> http://freedos.org/
> 
> 
> Let me know what you think will make the website easier to use. I'll 
> plan
> to tackle this in February or March, with plans to deploy in March 
> or April.
> 
> 
> Jim


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Re: [Freedos-user] Updates to the FreeDOS website?

2021-01-25 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Jim,

> Let me know what you think will make the website easier to use. I'll
> plan to tackle this in February or March, with plans to deploy in March
> or April.

Sounds good to me.

Just keep an eye on bandwidth for the front page. Not everyone has VDSL
or a leased line. ;-)

Cheers,
Robert
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Re: [Freedos-user] Which C compiler for targeting DOS?

2021-01-25 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Mateusz,

>> Can anyone recommend a good C compiler for DOS?
> 
> Turbo C 2.01 (gratis, very good software) and OpenWatcom (open-source, 
> tend to produce heavier binaries than OW, but comes with a more complete 
> libc).

AFAIK Turbo C++ 1.01 has less bugs than Turbo C 2.01, because it's newer
(1991 vs 1989).

Cheers,
Robert
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Re: [Freedos-user] Xcopy

2021-01-25 Thread Robert Riebisch
Hi Bryan,

>> Try  XCOPY  C:\GAMES\*.* D:\GAMES /E /S
> 
> That worked fine.
> 
>>   */E*
>>Copy subdirectories, even if empty.
>> 
>>*/S*
>>Copy subdirectories, except empty ones.
> 
> I hadn't realised the need for those options.

Just from the help text I would think just /E is enough.

Cheers,
Robert
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