Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 3.11 issues about FreeDOS

2022-08-30 Thread Eric Auer



Hi Liam,


Windows 3.11 cannot be run in 386 enhanced mode on FreeDOS, as it shows ERROR: 
Unsupported MS-DOS version.

Windows 3.11 can be run in standard mode on FreeDOS, but when I launch the 
MS-DOS Prompt, it shows Invalid Opcode.

Is there anyone who can solve this problem?


As far as I know, this is a known and documented issue.


There are several factors. Windows for Workgroups 3.11
(unless in limited safe mode) and the 386enh mode of
Windows 3.0 and 3.1 require DOS to be predictable and
compatible enough to wrap themselves around DOS to be
able to create several independent DOS tasks.

The solution for THIS problem should be to use the
kernel updates from Jeremy to implement some special
API extensions for Windows. Unfortunately, they are
not yet part of the distro, but I am sure somebody
can mention a good download link here on the list?

Another problem is that Windows cannot deal with
large amounts of RAM, so you have to configure
your EMM386 (yet another compatibility issue! It
may be best to use the MS version??) and/or HIMEM
(or maybe XMGR?) to only show an "understandable"
amount and/or configure Windows to use a smaller
swap factor. It cannot work with FAT32 or LBA as
far as I know, so you have to tell it to use DOS
and BIOS for disk access etc.


So, no, for now it cannot be fixed.


See above, there could be a chance :-) I hope this
thread is seen by Jeremy and other experts :-)


Maybe in some future version of DOS.


Maybe sooner than we think.


If you really need Windows 3.1x on a FAT32-capable DOS, then I would
suggest DR-DOS from the DR-DOS Enhancement Project or possibly IBM
PC-DOS 7.1.


See above - Windows for Workgroups should have a
more general problem with FAT32 and LBA, so first
try to get it to work at all. Maybe a good (!)
virtual PC configured to have "retro" hardware,
little RAM, small FAT16 disk etc. is a start?

Regards, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

2022-08-30 Thread Karen Lewellen

I use dos, google has removed access to YouTube for low graphics browsers.
If you have an answer, care to share?



On Tue, 30 Aug 2022, Bj??rn Morell wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAt1rWF-kqE

Den 2022-08-30 kl. 12:02, skrev Karen Lewellen:

 with all of the vintage gaming hinted at here, was wondering if anyone
 knows of a simple pure DOS program that in theory allows one to treat
 their computer keyboard like a music one?
 Need not tap dance as it were, just allow for some basic work.
 Ideas?
 Karen




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Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 3.11 issues about FreeDOS

2022-08-30 Thread kargol92

It is possible to run Windows 3.x in 386 Enhanced Mode on FreeDOS.

https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2021/07/27/freedos-running-windows-3-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35OQjLYdvJ0

W dniu 30.08.2022 o 04:53, Victor Yeh pisze:

Hi,

Windows 3.11 cannot be run in 386 enhanced mode on FreeDOS, as it 
shows |ERROR: Unsupported MS-DOS version.|

|UnsupportedMSDOSversion.png
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|Windows 3.11 can be run in standard mode on FreeDOS, but when I 
launch the |MS-DOS Prompt|, it shows |Invalid Opcode|.

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|InvalidOpcode.png
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|Is there anyone who can solve this problem?|
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|Regards,|
|Victor|


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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

2022-08-30 Thread Lukas Satin
I have this Digidesign SampleCell II card hardware ISA sampler for PC. Does
anyone have any experience with it? Some software? I would like to connect
it to MPC Studio (hardware + software on another PC)

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:03 PM Björn Morell  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAt1rWF-kqE
> Den 2022-08-30 kl. 12:02, skrev Karen Lewellen:
>
> with all of the vintage gaming hinted at here, was wondering if anyone
> knows of a simple pure DOS program that in theory allows one to treat their
> computer keyboard like a music one?
> Need not tap dance as it were, just allow for some basic work.
> Ideas?
> Karen
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Re: [Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

2022-08-30 Thread Björn Morell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAt1rWF-kqE

Den 2022-08-30 kl. 12:02, skrev Karen Lewellen:
with all of the vintage gaming hinted at here, was wondering if anyone 
knows of a simple pure DOS program that in theory allows one to treat 
their computer keyboard like a music one?

Need not tap dance as it were, just allow for some basic work.
Ideas?
Karen




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Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 3.11 issues about FreeDOS

2022-08-30 Thread Liam Proven
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 at 04:56, Victor Yeh  wrote:
>
> Windows 3.11 cannot be run in 386 enhanced mode on FreeDOS, as it shows 
> ERROR: Unsupported MS-DOS version.
>
> Windows 3.11 can be run in standard mode on FreeDOS, but when I launch the 
> MS-DOS Prompt, it shows Invalid Opcode.
>
> Is there anyone who can solve this problem?

As far as I know, this is a known and documented issue.

So, no, for now it cannot be fixed.

Maybe in some future version of DOS.

If you really need Windows 3.1x on a FAT32-capable DOS, then I would
suggest DR-DOS from the DR-DOS Enhancement Project or possibly IBM
PC-DOS 7.1.

I have download links for both on my blog, but I've been accused of
spamming in the past so I won't give the links. I think they should be
easily Googled and I've shared them on both Reddit and Facebook in the
DOS groups.

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[Freedos-user] DOS music creation software?

2022-08-30 Thread Karen Lewellen
with all of the vintage gaming hinted at here, was wondering if anyone 
knows of a simple pure DOS program that in theory allows one to treat 
their computer keyboard like a music one?

Need not tap dance as it were, just allow for some basic work.
Ideas?
Karen




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[Freedos-user] Ré : Windows 3.11 issues about FreeDOS

2022-08-30 Thread Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user
For first problem, you could look at:

http://home.mnet-online.de/willybilly/fdhelp-internet/en/hhstndrd/base/callver.htm



Invalid opcode, means your CPU have encountered an unknown instruction.

So it depends on your CPU versus what the program request.

In QEMU, -cpu pentium-2 ... or other can be used to change the emulated CPU.

On real hardware... more harder to change CPU.



Although I found the following link:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.free-dos/c/JDN8xIJ_ikg___
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