Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
I had the same errors as you in MS-DOS 6.22. Did you use the two disk install from archive.org? Did you get any errors during the install? Here is how I got it to work: 1. Create a C:\TANKSIN directory mkdir C:\TANKSIN 2. Copy all the contents of disk1 to C:\TANKSIN XCOPY /E A:\*.* C:\TANKSIN 3. Copy all the contents of disk2 to C:\TANKSIN XCOPY /E A:\*.* C:\TANKSIN 4. Run install from C:\TANKSIN C: CD C:\TANKSIN INSTALL The install will test to see if your computer meets its requirements RAM etc, and allow you to complete the install. On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 7:04 PM Tomas By wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:32:19 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > > am Montag, 28. November 2022 um 16:41 schrieben Sie: > > > Am using HIMEMX.EXE and JEMM386.EXE. > > > > run without JEMM386 > > > It then says "Not enough EMS memory available". > > /Tomas > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Jeremy Leonard jere...@elite4god.com Cell: (517) 285-8309 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:32:19 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > am Montag, 28. November 2022 um 16:41 schrieben Sie: > > Am using HIMEMX.EXE and JEMM386.EXE. > > run without JEMM386 It then says "Not enough EMS memory available". /Tomas ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
With a 386, you likely have 1MB-16MB. But you need to have it configured in the right way for the game, either as Expanded Memory (aka EMS) or Extended Memory (aka XMS). MobyGames does not specify how to configure the 2MB RAM requirement. This website (http://id3486.securedata.net/fprado/armorsite/tanks.htm) claims you need 600KB of free Conventional Memory just to start. Maybe peek at the DOSBox configuration. Other forums like vogons and vcfed might have more relevant information. On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:29 AM Tomas By wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:03:55 +0100, John Vella wrote: > > What's the game you're trying to run > > https://archive.org/details/msdos_Wargame_Construction_Set_II_-_TANKS_1994 > > > > and how much RAM do you have? > > More than 640k (1GB?). > > /Tomas > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] System hangs on boot.
Hi! Actually FreeDOS may work with > 504 MB after all. You mentioned that using a FAT16 CHS partition made with MS DOS FDISK boots okay after you install FreeDOS on it, while a FAT32 partition did not. Your FAT32 partition may have been CHS or LBA. If it was LBA, maybe FAT32 works, but LBA does not work for booting from your CF, for some unknown reason. So you could try FAT32 CHS. If it was CHS, maybe FAT32 CHS booting does not work, so you could try FAT32 LBA instead ;-) Of course you do not need to test either of the methods if you are happy with the current working 504 MB FAT16 CHS boot drive. You could still use the rest of the CF card as D: (etc.) drive(s) with any suitable partition type (FAT16 or FAT32, CHS or LBA). Note that FAT16 supports at most 2 GB per drive letter. Regards, Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
Thanks for the info. I'm about to go to bed, as I have an early start, but I'll try and find a copy to do some freedos experiments tomorrow, unless anybody has the time and the inclination to have a go before that. On Mon, 28 Nov 2022, 19:30 Tomas By, wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:03:55 +0100, John Vella wrote: > > What's the game you're trying to run > > https://archive.org/details/msdos_Wargame_Construction_Set_II_-_TANKS_1994 > > > > and how much RAM do you have? > > More than 640k (1GB?). > > /Tomas > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:03:55 +0100, John Vella wrote: > What's the game you're trying to run https://archive.org/details/msdos_Wargame_Construction_Set_II_-_TANKS_1994 > and how much RAM do you have? More than 640k (1GB?). /Tomas ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
What's the game you're trying to run and how much RAM do you have? I'm just thinking that if we can try and replicate the issue we might be able to figure it out. On Mon, 28 Nov 2022, 18:08 Tomas By, wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:32:19 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > > run without JEMM386 > > > I think I tried that, and then it complained about needing more > memory. > > (The machine is not available right now.) > > /Tomas > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:32:19 +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > run without JEMM386 I think I tried that, and then it complained about needing more memory. (The machine is not available right now.) /Tomas ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] System hangs on boot.
I have it working. Though I couldn't use the installation system. I exited to DOS from the install disk and checked the partition table and format. The drive had a 2GB partition as C: formatted fat32. There was an extended partition with the rest of the drive. Then a logical partition as D: I deleted all the partitions. Rebooted. Existed setup. Created a new partition 504MB. (Didn't show anything larger. I couldn't create a larger partition) Marked it active. Rebooted Existed Setup. Formatted the C: drive with /S Rebooted to the HDD. This worked! I then removed the CF card from the 386. Then copied the FREEDOS directory from a newer install along with the other files at the root to the CF card. Excluding KERNEL.SYS and COMMAND.COM I then moved the CF card back to the 386 and it all worked. So, something with the install process created partitions using the fill size of the drive but the BIOS can access the full size so it failed. What I find interesting is that when I manually ran fdisk I couldn't create anything larger than what was seen by the BIOS. This setup now matches my DOS 6.22 setup. Thanks for the help. On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 6:27 PM Jim Hall wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 4:29 PM Jeremy Leonard via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > I reinstalled from floppy onto a 40MB IDE drive and this works. So it > > must be something to do with the CF card. The card works with MSDos. > > MS-DOS only sees it as a 504MB drive. I FDISK and format it and it > > works. Is there anything I can try with FreeDOS to get this working? > > I know others have had problems with real hardware systems built using > a CF card instead of a hard drive. I've seen people comment about that > on this list a while back - also on Twitter and Facebook. This problem > is sometimes (often?) the fault of the CompactFlash not doing a > perfect job of emulating or representing an IDE hard drive. When these > folks try the same system with a real hard drive, the problem does not > reappear. > > As Eric suggested, you could try installing FreeDOS on top of the > MS-DOS install (don't repartition, just reinstall) and that would > work. > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > -- Jeremy Leonard jere...@elite4god.com Cell: (517) 285-8309 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
Hallo Herr Tomas By, am Montag, 28. November 2022 um 16:41 schrieben Sie: > Hi all, > I am trying to run an old DOS game and get the following: > |Mel Fatal Error #: 25 Trap #: 15 > |Mel Real Mode Version 2.2.5, 4/2/94 > Am using HIMEMX.EXE and JEMM386.EXE. > Does anybody recognise this? Anything else I can try? run without JEMM386 Tom ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] memory issue, or something
Hi all, I am trying to run an old DOS game and get the following: |Mel Fatal Error #: 25 Trap #: 15 |Mel Real Mode Version 2.2.5, 4/2/94 Am using HIMEMX.EXE and JEMM386.EXE. Does anybody recognise this? Anything else I can try? (The game works in Dosbox, but I would like to use the Freedos machine.) /Tomas ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user