Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread Jeremy Leonard via Freedos-user
I had the same errors as you in MS-DOS 6.22. Did you use the two
disk install from archive.org? Did you get any errors during the install?

Here is how I got it to work:

1. Create a C:\TANKSIN directory
 mkdir C:\TANKSIN
2. Copy all the contents of disk1 to C:\TANKSIN
 XCOPY /E A:\*.* C:\TANKSIN
3. Copy all the contents of disk2 to C:\TANKSIN
 XCOPY /E A:\*.* C:\TANKSIN
4. Run install from C:\TANKSIN
C:
CD C:\TANKSIN
INSTALL

The install will test to see if your computer meets its requirements
RAM etc, and allow you to complete the install.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 7:04 PM Tomas By  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:32:19 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
> > am Montag, 28. November 2022 um 16:41 schrieben Sie:
> > > Am using HIMEMX.EXE and JEMM386.EXE.
> >
> > run without JEMM386
>
>
> It then says "Not enough EMS memory available".
>
> /Tomas
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Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread Tomas By
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:32:19 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
> am Montag, 28. November 2022 um 16:41 schrieben Sie:
> > Am using HIMEMX.EXE and JEMM386.EXE.
> 
> run without JEMM386


It then says "Not enough EMS memory available".

/Tomas


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Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread Louis Santillan
With a 386, you likely have 1MB-16MB.  But you need to have it configured
in the right way for the game, either as Expanded Memory (aka EMS) or
Extended Memory (aka XMS).  MobyGames does not specify how to configure the
2MB RAM requirement.
This website (http://id3486.securedata.net/fprado/armorsite/tanks.htm)
claims you need 600KB of free Conventional Memory just to start.  Maybe
peek at the DOSBox configuration.  Other forums like vogons and vcfed might
have more relevant information.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:29 AM Tomas By  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:03:55 +0100, John Vella wrote:
> > What's the game you're trying to run
>
> https://archive.org/details/msdos_Wargame_Construction_Set_II_-_TANKS_1994
>
>
> > and how much RAM do you have?
>
> More than 640k (1GB?).
>
> /Tomas
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Re: [Freedos-user] System hangs on boot.

2022-11-28 Thread Eric Auer



Hi!

Actually FreeDOS may work with > 504 MB after all. You mentioned
that using a FAT16 CHS partition made with MS DOS FDISK boots
okay after you install FreeDOS on it, while a FAT32 partition
did not. Your FAT32 partition may have been CHS or LBA. If it
was LBA, maybe FAT32 works, but LBA does not work for booting
from your CF, for some unknown reason. So you could try FAT32
CHS. If it was CHS, maybe FAT32 CHS booting does not work, so
you could try FAT32 LBA instead ;-)

Of course you do not need to test either of the methods if you
are happy with the current working 504 MB FAT16 CHS boot drive.

You could still use the rest of the CF card as D: (etc.) drive(s)
with any suitable partition type (FAT16 or FAT32, CHS or LBA).
Note that FAT16 supports at most 2 GB per drive letter.

Regards, Eric





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Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread John Vella
Thanks for the info. I'm about to go to bed, as I have an early start, but
I'll try and find a copy to do some freedos experiments tomorrow, unless
anybody has the time and the inclination to have a go before that.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2022, 19:30 Tomas By,  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:03:55 +0100, John Vella wrote:
> > What's the game you're trying to run
>
> https://archive.org/details/msdos_Wargame_Construction_Set_II_-_TANKS_1994
>
>
> > and how much RAM do you have?
>
> More than 640k (1GB?).
>
> /Tomas
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Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread Tomas By
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:03:55 +0100, John Vella wrote:
> What's the game you're trying to run

https://archive.org/details/msdos_Wargame_Construction_Set_II_-_TANKS_1994


> and how much RAM do you have?

More than 640k (1GB?).

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Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread John Vella
What's the game you're trying to run and how much RAM do you have?

I'm just thinking that if we can try and replicate the issue we might be
able to figure it out.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2022, 18:08 Tomas By,  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:32:19 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
> > run without JEMM386
>
>
> I think I tried that, and then it complained about needing more
> memory.
>
> (The machine is not available right now.)
>
> /Tomas
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Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread Tomas By
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 17:32:19 +0100, tom ehlert wrote:
> run without JEMM386


I think I tried that, and then it complained about needing more
memory.

(The machine is not available right now.)

/Tomas


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Re: [Freedos-user] System hangs on boot.

2022-11-28 Thread Jeremy Leonard via Freedos-user
I have it working. Though I couldn't use the installation system.

I exited to DOS from the install disk and checked the partition table and
format.
The drive had a 2GB partition as C: formatted fat32.
There was an extended partition with the rest of the drive.
Then a logical partition as D:

I deleted all the partitions.
Rebooted.
Existed setup.
Created a new partition 504MB. (Didn't show anything larger. I couldn't
create a larger partition)
Marked it active.
Rebooted
Existed Setup.
Formatted the C: drive with /S
Rebooted to the HDD. This worked!

I then removed the CF card from the 386.
Then copied the FREEDOS directory from a newer install along with the other
files at the root to the CF card. Excluding KERNEL.SYS and COMMAND.COM

I then moved the CF card back to the 386 and it all worked.

So, something with the install process created partitions using the fill
size of the drive but the BIOS can access the full size so it failed. What
I find interesting is that when I manually ran fdisk I couldn't create
anything larger than what was seen by the BIOS.

This setup now matches my DOS 6.22 setup.

Thanks for the help.


On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 6:27 PM Jim Hall  wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 4:29 PM Jeremy Leonard via Freedos-user
>  wrote:
> >
> > I reinstalled from floppy onto a 40MB IDE drive and this works. So it
> > must be something to do with the CF card. The card works with MSDos.
> > MS-DOS only sees it as a 504MB drive. I FDISK and format it and it
> > works. Is there anything I can try with FreeDOS to get this working?
>
> I know others have had problems with real hardware systems built using
> a CF card instead of a hard drive. I've seen people comment about that
> on this list a while back - also on Twitter and Facebook. This problem
> is sometimes (often?) the fault of the CompactFlash not doing a
> perfect job of emulating or representing an IDE hard drive. When these
> folks try the same system with a real hard drive, the problem does not
> reappear.
>
> As Eric suggested, you could try installing FreeDOS on top of the
> MS-DOS install (don't repartition, just reinstall) and that would
> work.
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread tom ehlert
Hallo Herr Tomas By,

am Montag, 28. November 2022 um 16:41 schrieben Sie:

> Hi all,

> I am trying to run an old DOS game and get the following:

> |Mel Fatal Error #: 25 Trap #: 15
> |Mel Real Mode Version 2.2.5, 4/2/94

> Am using HIMEMX.EXE and JEMM386.EXE.

> Does anybody recognise this? Anything else I can try?

run without JEMM386

Tom



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[Freedos-user] memory issue, or something

2022-11-28 Thread Tomas By
Hi all,

I am trying to run an old DOS game and get the following:

|Mel Fatal Error #: 25 Trap #: 15
|Mel Real Mode Version 2.2.5, 4/2/94

Am using HIMEMX.EXE and JEMM386.EXE.

Does anybody recognise this? Anything else I can try?

(The game works in Dosbox, but I would like to use the Freedos machine.)

/Tomas


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