Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review
> The user even has no information which disc drives are in the system. I believe I was able to get this information, but USB was not recognized for obvious reasons. > No file manager is prepared and the user has no usable help. I did have to download a file manager to get one, but dir is a good start. Help was less helpful than man on UNIX in my experience, why I can't tell. > The install is slow That is interesting. I guess I didn't know how fast installs could be. The fastest install I have ever had is Haiku, which is like lightning, but FreeDOS install seemed pretty fast. I have no experience with other DOSs though. I do not know about SYSINFO. I do not use it too much. having a way to check battery would be good on laptop. Do you want FreeDOS to be like Hiren's boot CD? I know LiveCD is often used for Recovery, but that seems like a sad place to end up. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review
I did not realize that! I just read complaints about no file managers and ugly programs. That changes things. On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 8:40 AM TK Chia wrote: > > Hello Johnpaul Humphrey, > > > All the things he finds objectionable I would have called FEATURES. He > > would do better on Ubuntu. > > Me, I am not so sure. That was from Laaca --- a developer of DOS > programs himself. He also mentions that he had been "using DOS for 27 > years". So if he says that things are bad, maybe they _are_ bad (for > whatever reason), and we should take heed... > > Thank you! > > -- > https://gitlab.com/tkchia :: https://github.com/tkchia > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review
All the things he finds objectionable I would have called FEATURES. He would do better on Ubuntu. On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 8:19 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! Forwarding something from the BTTR forum: > > "I tried to use the FreeDOS 1.3RC installation CD. Because I found > a Dell Latitude610 notebook. And I am really dispappointed because > it is something really awful. The live system is unusable, the boot > process ends in the minimal configuration unable to do anything > useful. No file manager is prepared and the user has no usable help. > The user even has no information which disc drives are in the system." > > The review also compares it to the Windows-based Hiren Boot CD, > making me wonder whether we play in the same usability league. > > In Hiren, you get a hierarchical menu of available utilities at > boot. So for Live CD utility purposes, it is very easy to use. > > Next, the review tests installation, given that the Live CD use > case is as unfriendly as you would expect DOS to be ;-) > > "Ugly FDisk (although we have a more user friendly partition tools)" > > Also, the install is slow. How slow is it? Are caches used? ELTORITO? > > After the install: Again "No file manager, no infi about installed > drives. No utility for getting some system information" Interestingly, > the reporter mentions the BLOCEK text editor as the only source for > getting a system information overview? > > Which better SYSINFO utilities could we bundle? HWINFO, NSSI > and VC probably are all closed source, what else is out there? > > Finally, the reporter (the whole post has a quite harsh tone) > complains that the default install will install FAR too few > useful apps and that the package management groups are badly > sorted (e.g. no subcategories for utilities) and that there > should be no base64 tool in "base"... > > Regards, Eric > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS
Alvah Whealton > (roll your own excuses) Off topic slightly, but I have installed a windows-like distro on several people's computers, because they were used to windows, but were worried about viruses, scammers, There are times I think, if they could just use UNIX or more on topic DOS, they would never go back. But they are scared of major change. Those distros are for people who want windows but not Microsoft. On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:41 AM Alvah Whealton wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 12:04 PM Liam Proven wrote: >> >> >> Partly because OS/2 failed, and MS cheated DR out of its fair share of >> the market, we never got the multitasking relatives of DOS we could >> have had in the 1980s. Instead, we got a very heavyweight inefficient >> series of ones in the 1990s... and we still run their descendants >> today. >> >> And in its efforts to keep up, Linux has grown just as bloated. > > > Amen to that. > > Adding insult to injury, I am amazed at how many distros pat themselves on > the back for being "just like Windows." > > I have to wonder what percentage of the folks who migrate from Windows to > such distros will actually return to Windows when either: > > a) they discover that the distro is not a Windows clone > or > b) their friends are not making the switch > or > c) the crap software they bought off the shelf won't run on Linux > or > (roll your own excuses) > > Al Whealton > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS
Thank you for all your replies! So far I am seeing the following "themes" * Speed and startup time * Running "timeless" software that was abandoned largely because of propaganda and business * Keeping Old hardware running. * Distraction free * Avoid being terrorized by the modern commercial experience. On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:45 AM Deposite Pirate wrote: > > April 14, 2021 6:01 PM, "Johnpaul Humphrey" wrote: > > So my question is, why do YOU use FreeDOS? > > > Because there is no such thing as a "retro" or "ancient" computer. > That wording is programmed obsolescence propaganda. A computer is > a useful tool as long as it works as expected and there is no good > reason to throw it away. As long as it works it is no less capable > then the day you got it. Emulation always sucks more or less. It is > never perfect. Real hardware is always better. DOS is an appropriate > OS for some tasks. > > When it comes to games, better graphics != better gameplay. Like > better special effects doesn't make for a better movie. And better > sound production doesn't make for better music. In fact better > graphics in games, better special effects in movies and better > sound production in music are far too often just a way to distract > from the lack of skills, ideas of those who made them. Also a good > movie, good music or a good game never gets old, this is how you > actually know it is good. Most games, movies and music are just > an endless stream of generic boring fast food-like entertainment > for living intestines (consumers) being fleeced and sedated. > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS
> Whom are you addressing Anybody that want's to talk about it. I like your points. And yes the single program is a plus. On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:25 AM Thomas Desi wrote: > > HI Johnpaul - whom are you addressing in your mail saying > > "So my question is, why do YOU use FreeDOS?" > > just in case… ;) here is my „ranting rating“: > > - I am 50ish and not so much nostalgic about computing, but: > > - want to get rid of networking on my „composing tool“ > - want to have a lighting fast bootup > - want to have 1 (one!!) single app that I use, > - don’t want the virus thing (do we?) > - don’t want all those hidden spying/cookies/passwords/logins > - (single user instance, at home, old computer: who ever would want to get > into my files? If they start the computer, they wouldn’t know what to do when > seeing the FreeDos splash screen ; ) - Kidding) > - don't want "update nagging“, this has become crazyness. (legacy program > like, e.g. VDE Editor and others can’t possibly made any better … like in > „here is the update to the wheel“..) > - want to be able to switch the thing off with a button: „Zip!“ and walk away > from the screen. > - (and no waiting or „the computer was not correctly shut down … bla blabla“) > - No „power saving“ or „standby modes“ which anyway also consume quite an > amount of energy, with funny standby-lights flashing all night in your > appartment. Just switch it entirely off. > - single simple view of what I have written (actual OS suggest to become a > virtuoso in creating folders/directories and drop files on a „desktop“ which > is a fake folder, too… > - want to have single files that represent an „app“. (not thousands of > libraries, dependencies, installs, dlls, blablabl) > - a disk with FEW files alltogether. (Windows10 uses around 300,000 files for > a fresh 12 GIGABYTE install! THREEHUNDRED THOUSAND) > - a system of a handful of commands I program on my „macro pad“ - and press > it without need to type in, not even „dir“ or „cd ..“ or „type“ etc… > - want SIMPLICITY, purism, „control“ ... > - want to learn to understand a little how actually a computer works as a > tool, not as a consumer gadget that could - theoretically - do EVERYTHING and > drives me nuts because of the running „why doesn’t it do this and that“… > - and a few more which sound quite similar to your reasons! > > I agree that there has been a huge amount of programming work, carefully > written out documentations and alike become obsolete in the last decades. > > In my experience (Text/composing/editing( I don’t see ANY difference working > on a Windows10 Computer in Word today and how it was back in say 1988 when I > had my first machine regarding the workflow… Text-editing hasn’t changed in > the last decades, that is why Emacs and VI(m) are still much in use. But I > guess this is a different story and doesn’t fit into this thread. > > > - T-h-omas > > > > Am 14.04.2021 um 17:59 schrieb Johnpaul Humphrey : > > > > In light of the "DOS was dead" discussion, I wanted to ask a question. > > I was *born* after support was dropped for MS-DOS, so I can't claim > > nostalgia as my reason for use. Recently I installed FreeDOS on my > > modern HP-Pavilion laptop, alongside BSD, Linux, and plan9. I did this > > because I like DOS's speed and assembly programming. > > It worked fine after I fixed the beep bug with your help. > > So my question is, why do YOU use FreeDOS? > > Is it primarily nostalgia? Legacy program support? Speed? > > Note that I don't consider running legacy software a bad reason. I was > > shocked by how much good software has been "thrown away" because of > > its age. On Linux all my favorite software (vi, siag office, twm, > > motif ) was written before I was born. However, that is not my > > primary reason for using FreeDOS. my primary reason is because it is > > like the motorcycle of operating systems. It is lightweight, has no > > red tape to cut through to do things, and is monotasking. (Monotasking > > is also why I don't use it as much as I would like to, but why I use > > it at all.) > > I figured that if I had a different reason than what everybody > > assumes, that some of you might as well. Everyone seems to assume that > > DOS is used by people who are unable to cope with progress and have to > > run their ancient version of word perfect. If that is your reason, it > > is not a bad reason. I was thinking of eventually writing a 64-bit dos > > work [sort of] alike eventually, but it would not be able to support > > legacy programs due to segment offset addressing and a million other > > things. > > >
[Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS
In light of the "DOS was dead" discussion, I wanted to ask a question. I was *born* after support was dropped for MS-DOS, so I can't claim nostalgia as my reason for use. Recently I installed FreeDOS on my modern HP-Pavilion laptop, alongside BSD, Linux, and plan9. I did this because I like DOS's speed and assembly programming. It worked fine after I fixed the beep bug with your help. So my question is, why do YOU use FreeDOS? Is it primarily nostalgia? Legacy program support? Speed? Note that I don't consider running legacy software a bad reason. I was shocked by how much good software has been "thrown away" because of its age. On Linux all my favorite software (vi, siag office, twm, motif ) was written before I was born. However, that is not my primary reason for using FreeDOS. my primary reason is because it is like the motorcycle of operating systems. It is lightweight, has no red tape to cut through to do things, and is monotasking. (Monotasking is also why I don't use it as much as I would like to, but why I use it at all.) I figured that if I had a different reason than what everybody assumes, that some of you might as well. Everyone seems to assume that DOS is used by people who are unable to cope with progress and have to run their ancient version of word perfect. If that is your reason, it is not a bad reason. I was thinking of eventually writing a 64-bit dos work [sort of] alike eventually, but it would not be able to support legacy programs due to segment offset addressing and a million other things. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
To add to the wonderful GEM discussion, when I run GEM on my modern
laptop running FreeDOS and OpenGEM, GEM produces a blank white screen.
However, in safe mode, it works fine (though some pixmaps or
characters are missing.) So that means that some driver messes with
GEM.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 4:19 AM Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
>
> Concerning a USB stick installation, I wrote:
>
> > In the FD-SETUP volume, I copied FDCONFIG.SYS, in a
> > test-directory. This is what it contains
>
> Now I have booted the FreeDOS PC into its hard drive. Fdconfig.sys
> therein, contains the following.
>
> {
> SET DOSDIR=C:\FDOS
>
> !COUNTRY=001,858,C:\FDOS\BIN\COUNTRY.SYS
> !LASTDRIVE=Z
> !BUFFERS=20
> !FILES=40
> !MENUCOLOR=7,0
>
> MENUDEFAULT=1,5
> MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS with JEMMEX, no EMS (most UMBs), max RAM free
> MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with EMM386 (Expanded Memory) and SHARE loaded
> MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS without drivers (Emergency Mode)
> MENU 4 - Load FreeDOS low with some drivers (Safe Mode)
>
> 124?DOS=HIGH
> 12?DOS=UMB
> 124?DOSDATA=UMB
> 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMMEX.EXE NOEMS X=TEST I=TEST NOVME NOINVLPG
> 234?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEMX.EXE
> 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\JEMM386.EXE X=TEST I=TEST I=B000-B7FF NOVME NOINVLPG
> 34?SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
> 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM C:\FDOS\BIN /E:1024 /P=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT
> }
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser
I have tried eLinks on Linux. I was unaware of the full edition On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:09 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Have you tried the more recent compiles that incorporate JavaScript? > Indeed, there is a text only edition of links, but the full edition for > the most part works rather well. > Speaking personally one thing I find frustrating about it is the fact it > seems not to support cookies. > Just my take, > Kare > > > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Johnpaul Humphrey wrote: > > > In my experience, Links is not very compatible with modern web pages. > > I use it and like it, but it is a text browser. It does not have very > > much CSS support. My understanding is that the two most > > feature-complete browsers for DOs are Dillo and Arachne. Maybe someone > > knows of some more advanced ones. > > By all means, try out links, but be aware that it is a different > > experience than your typical browser :) > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:12 PM Dean Galloway wrote: > >> > >> Hello Andrea and all others in the group: > >> > >> Thank you all for your replies regarding Dillo Web Browser. > >> > >> I had been under the impression Dillo was a better web browser and may be > >> worth the effort to get functioning, but there appears to be more negative > >> reports, along with the fact it is not really compatible with day to day > >> websites. I'll probably still leave it in the list of things to tackle, > >> just more likely on the back burner. I'll look more into Links and see > >> what I can come up with. > >> > >> Thank you again! > >> Dean. > >> > >> On 12/8/2020 3:23 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it wrote: > >> > >> > >> Il 06.12.2020 22:38 Dean Galloway ha scritto: > >> > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even > >> started. I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success. > >> > >> Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be > >> performed before I can get it going? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Dean. > >> > >> I used Dillo and before Arachne- dos browsers - but currently the only dos > >> browser still developed is LINKS (Links.twibright.com) both in textual and > >> gui mode. It is light and efficient even on old pc > >> andrea > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Freedos-user mailing list > >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 30 4G hai minuti illimitati, 100 SMS e 30 Giga in > >> 4G a soli 8,99€ al mese. http://tisca.li/smart30 > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Freedos-user mailing list > >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > >> > >> ___ > >> Freedos-user mailing list > >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > > > > -- > > Johnpaul T. Humphrey > > > > > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > >___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser
In my experience, Links is not very compatible with modern web pages. I use it and like it, but it is a text browser. It does not have very much CSS support. My understanding is that the two most feature-complete browsers for DOs are Dillo and Arachne. Maybe someone knows of some more advanced ones. By all means, try out links, but be aware that it is a different experience than your typical browser :) On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:12 PM Dean Galloway wrote: > > Hello Andrea and all others in the group: > > Thank you all for your replies regarding Dillo Web Browser. > > I had been under the impression Dillo was a better web browser and may be > worth the effort to get functioning, but there appears to be more negative > reports, along with the fact it is not really compatible with day to day > websites. I'll probably still leave it in the list of things to tackle, just > more likely on the back burner. I'll look more into Links and see what I can > come up with. > > Thank you again! > Dean. > > On 12/8/2020 3:23 PM, andrea...@tiscali.it wrote: > > > Il 06.12.2020 22:38 Dean Galloway ha scritto: > > Hello all, > > I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even > started. I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success. > > Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be > performed before I can get it going? > > Thanks, > > Dean. > > I used Dillo and before Arachne- dos browsers - but currently the only dos > browser still developed is LINKS (Links.twibright.com) both in textual and > gui mode. It is light and efficient even on old pc > andrea > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > > Con Tiscali Mobile Smart 30 4G hai minuti illimitati, 100 SMS e 30 Giga in 4G > a soli 8,99€ al mese. http://tisca.li/smart30 > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser
I have had success with dillo before in a VM. Could you give us more details? Does it give any information? Does it silently execute? Does it freeze? It sounds like it is frozen. On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:39 PM Dean Galloway wrote: > > Hello all, > > I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even > started. I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success. > > Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be > performed before I can get it going? > > Thanks, > > Dean. > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?
I multiboot FreeDOS on my modern laptop alongside linux, Plan 9, and BSD. It is by far the fastest OS I have used. What do I do? I run Ability Office (No cost but non-free :( ), OpenGEM, and edit, or elvis when I am needing more power. I do a little programming. I also boot into DOS when I need a distraction free environment (non-multitasking.) With GEM, I have to boot DOS in safe mode, because otherwise I will get a blank white screen. I am new to DOS, but I am into old software, so it is already taken an important place on my hard-disk. I haven't set it up with interent, it is sort of my "digital monastary" if you know what I mean. On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 3:27 AM Dean Galloway wrote: > > I set my Freedos machine up as a GOPHER client. > > I know a lot of folks use virtual machines for Freedos, but I'm kind of > partial to the physical device sitting in the corner. > > I've had limited success with web browsing and am yet to find an email > client that supports IMAP. > > Never was much of a game player. > > On 12/4/2020 11:01 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > > G'day Marv: > >> I know I'm late to the FreeDos party, but it would help me and maybe > >> other newcomers to know what you guys do with your FreeDos PCs. > > > > At the moment, nothing; I'm waiting for a sore foot to heal before > > using an old Polar heart-monitor. > > > >> I was thinking of utility type things that are easier or more quickly > >> done in DOS, but I'm wide open to any ideas. > > Apart from that old application, all I ever did was play Hangman! > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Configuration options for DOS beep
I am actually running this on a laptop, A three or so year old HP-Pavilion. It has a pretty poor BIOS though. wont let you choose legacy before EFI for example. Those utilities look interesting. Silence has an unclear license statement. >This Program Is In The Public Domain. >Users are encouraged to make as many copies as they >like and to distribute them to whomever they choose. >Under No Circumstances Is This Program To Be Sold. So I am not sure it is in the public domain. I will look into that. I also am thinking about the possibility of making an addon to the shell. I am going to investigate the code. On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 12:22 PM dmccunney wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:56 AM Johnpaul Humphrey wrote: > > > > I want to disable the beep in certain freedos applications.> Most > > importantly COMMAND.COM > > > So I think I have two options as far as freecom is concerned: > > 1. cut the wires, I want to avoid that if possible. > > 2. recompile freecom or any app that doesn't explicitly configure the bell. > > I thought before I sink a lot of time into recompiling, that I would > > ask around and see if there is some configuration file I missed. > > AFAIK, no. What hardware are you running on? If you are running > FreeDOS in a VM, you can probably silence the speaker from the host > OS. If you are booting FreeDOS as the OS on the machine, it's a > problem. Some BIOSes back in the day would let you set speaker > volume. Failing that, your option was usually to disconnect the > speaker. > > A possible option is use of a TSR which will attempt to mute the > speaker. Most of these work by continuously polling for speaker > events, so you will get some level of performance hit from running > them. Go to https://www.sac.sk/files.php?d=16= and search for > speaker in the listing for downloads on some. > > Another possibility is https://www.pcorner.com/list/UTILITY/SIL2.ZIP/INFO/ > > I have not tested these and cannot say how well they work. > __ > Dennis > > . > > > > > Johnpaul T. Humphrey > > > > > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > -- > ___ > Dennis > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Configuration options for DOS beep
Hi All, I want to disable the beep in certain freedos applications. Most importantly COMMAND.COM I got on the IRC yesterday, and recieved a couple of suggestions. The first one was to disconnect the bell from the motherboard. I want to avoid that if possible. The second is there might be a configuration option. I searched for words like "bell" and "beep" in my entire installation, and did not find any configuration options. I also looked into freecom's source, and saw the configuration files there. So I think I have two options as far as freecom is concerned: 1. cut the wires, I want to avoid that if possible. 2. recompile freecom or any app that doesn't explicitly configure the bell. I thought before I sink a lot of time into recompiling, that I would ask around and see if there is some configuration file I missed. -- God bless you, Johnpaul T. Humphrey ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
