Re: [Freedos-user] Remove from List

2005-06-25 Thread Nicholas Basso
Wow jim you said it far nicer than I would have.  Heh, I guess I'm just old
fashioned that way.  I'd have torn him a new one.;)
- Original Message -
From: Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 07:25
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Remove from List


 Marvin Miller wrote:
  Please remove me form the list.


 Hi.  To remove yourself from the list, please go to
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user and you'll
 find the option there to take yourself off the list.

 (It's at the bottom of the page, where you can change your
subscription.)

 -jh


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Question

2005-03-15 Thread Nicholas Basso



There is an ODIN (one disk INstall) available on 
the website, so yes. It's going to be minimalist, but the download to 
install freedos does not fit on floppies yet. And I don't know if there 
will be a floppy install set...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Theresa Westbrook 
  To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:17
  Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Re: 
  Question
  
  I do not have a cd-rom, can the download fit on floppyEric 
  Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Hi 
Theresa, Is there a screen shot of FreeDos?DOS itself 
has very boring looks. But you can install e.g.OpenGEM, SEAL or Desktop2 
on it, and then the it will look,of course, like OpenGEM, SEAL or 
Desktop2. All those need DOSas the operating system under the hood, and 
FreeDOS is a DOS.I made a quick screenshot 
anyway:http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~eric/freedos-boot.pngWhat you 
see on this image is various messages from drivers, tellingyou that they 
loaded okay at boot time,a prompt whether I want some "lredir" driver to 
run, and finallythe classic "C:\" prompt which tells me that I can 
now type commands.If it feels familiar, fine. If not, then you will 
probably want toenter just a single command: Start the graphical user 
interface of yourchoice and stay in there, so you do not have to see the 
text screen...The screen shot was taken inside DOSEMU, which is a 
virtual PC (runningin a window in Linux in this case) in which I have 
installed FreeDOS.Without that, FreeDOS would just run full screen, not 
in a window. I am new to programming but very interested in 
giving it a shot...You do not have to do "programming" to use DOS. 
But unless you use a GUI,everything in DOS is controlled by the 
keyboard, not the mouse. but a little timid about disabling my 
laptop.If you install FreeDOS from CD-ROM, it should automatically 
create aboot menu which allows you to select between Win95 and FreeDOS 
eachtime when you start the laptop (I assume that your Win95 is still 
workingokay, otherwise there would of course be no Win95 menu entry 
needed). How do I find the necessary drivers?You do not 
need drivers for keyboard and display, and the default mousedriver of 
FreeDOS works with many common mou se types. You do not needdrivers for 
harddisk or diskette either. For everything else, you wouldhave to tell 
us what hardware exactly you have, then we can tell youwhich drivers we 
can recommend.  Some people just snag the files off another 
old  computer and copy them over, because it works.  
 However, it robs the shareholders of Microsoft  Corporation 
by depriving an ebay vendor of a $10 sale,  and that's why it is 
illegal. FreeDos is legal, isn't it?FreeDOS is 
completely free and legal, written by volunteers all overthe world. Even 
some of the GUIs are completely free and legal, whileothers are not 
free. The above should tell you that many people do notgive a damn about 
copying MS Windows or MS Office from their neighbours,but it is 
certainly illegal. There are various legal alternatives:Use 
OpenOffice.org, which is free and legal, pay 100s of bucks for aleg al 
copy of MS Office, or buy it bundled with a new PC, in which caseit 
costs only a fraction of the normal price. Exactly the same happensfor 
Windows: As an alternative, you can use Linux, BeOS Zeta, FreeBSD orany 
other free operating system (including FreeDOS), but you can alsobuy it 
for quite some money, or buy it bundled with a new PC or at least"piece 
of hardware". The bundled price for WinXP Home is around 100 Eurosas far 
as I remember.In either case, WinXP and MS Office are far too 
"heavy" for your veryold laptop. So you can only use it with Win95 or at 
most Win98se. InGermany, it is legal to sell 2nd hand copies of any 
Windows version,as long as you REALLY sell it (give everything to the 
one who buys it,and delete everything on your own PC: You must MOVE it 
to the new owner,not COPY it...), but in other countries, it can happen 
that a Windowslicense is glued to a human being or PC forever, even if 
the PC fallsapart i nto a pile of rusty dust. Anyway. You can buy 2nd 
hand copies ofWin95 for 20something and of Win98se for 40something $$. 
You wrote thatyour laptop already has Win95 installed anyway. If you 
have a legal copy,e.g. have the license certificate around, then you can 
probably ask MS tosend you a new CD-ROM if you have lost the original 
one. And, at least mypersonal feeling tells me this, nobody would 
complain if you use the CD-ROM of Win95 of somebody else to install 
drivers on the Win95 which youalready legally own, even if you no longer 
have the original CD-ROM.I hope that answers some of your 
questions.Eric.PS: Please do make sure that you configure 
  

Re: [Freedos-user] Question: How to use CMedia CM8738 sound in DOS?

2005-03-06 Thread Nicholas Basso
CMI chips suck balls.  That said, C-Media has a decent dos driver with the
new software versions they had, so... that might fix it, it might not.  It
requires a bit of info about your board...

- Original Message -
From: Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 15:42
Subject: [Freedos-user] Question: How to use CMedia CM8738 sound in DOS?



 Hi, I am trying to make CMedia CM8738 onboard sound work in DOS.
 The drivers (downloaded them) just find the PCI device, read the
 IRQ and port base, check if PCI config register 4 and 5 equals 5
 (if busmaster is on), does a bit of i/o
 (base+4 = word e, base+18 = 3, base+16 = base+16 or 10,
 base+21 = 5, base+27 = 1, 224 = 80, 225 = VALUE, 224 = 81, 225 = 22)
 and hooks the PCI IRQ with a redirector to the selected NORMAL IRQ
 (e.g. PCI sound chip triggers IRQ 12, and the TSR simulates IRQ 5
 when that happens). The base is found in PCI config reg 10 (low byte
 of word ignored), the IRQ is in PCI config reg 3c. The device is
 found by scanning the PCI bus for a device by vendor 13f6 (CMedia, I
 assume) or 10b9 (in THAT case, the device ID is also checked to be
 in 100-200 range. However, in my case, the ID is 13f6:0111).

 Whatever. Everything nice and techy. The more clever DOS programs
 even work with selecting IRQ 12 directly without the TSR in RAM.
 But only Adlib and mixer REALLY work. When I try doing 8bit sound,
 I get silence, and for 16bit sound, using DMA 1 for both high and
 low DMA channel (hardcoded to the setaudio CMedia tool, it seems),
 I get noise. Very annoying.

 Am I doing something stupid here or is it just a KNOWN problem that
 C-Media sound chips have crappy DMA and therefore can only be used
 for boring Adlib sound in DOS?

 I think I have read of other people with C-Media on this list before,
 so maybe somebody can help me out here. Thanks!

 Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] soundcard?

2005-02-16 Thread Nicholas Basso
There do exist some 3rd party knockoff dos drivers for some newer
soundchips, but they may not work.  Go searching.

- Original Message -
From: Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 07:53
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] soundcard?


Hi!

14--2005 18:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael) wrote to
freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net:

M I'm a little confussed. Is there no way to configure your soundcard if
M it is new enough not to come with DOS drivers?

 No, there is no way - if soundcard not implements one de-facto standard
(like AdLib or SoundBlaster), then no one third-party utility/driver may
help you.

M Is there SB or MIDI support at least?

 You should ask not us, if your soundcard supports SB-compatability and
if it supports MIDI directly (in hardware).

M I just want to play some old id/Apogee games with the
M full 1995 experience. :)

 DOS games access sound cards directly, not through software drivers.
So, if your sound card is non-compatible with anything supported by game,
then you unlucky. :(




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Re: [Freedos-user] Merry Christmas!

2004-12-24 Thread Nicholas Basso
May the spirit of the holiday season fill you.
May the holiday season fill you with spirits, if you're old enough and
willing.

And of course, may all your days be pleasant.  Merry Christmas, Happy
Kwanzaa, Joyeux Noel, Happy Chanukah (sp), Pleasant Solstice, Good
WinterDay, and... am I forgetting any?  Burn a few rice cakes for me.:)




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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Freedos-user digest, Vol 1 #286 - 11 msgs

2004-11-03 Thread Nicholas Basso
We need a drop of [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list.  Have fun folks.

- Original Message -
From: Bill Marcum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 17:59
Subject: [Freedos-user] Re: Freedos-user digest, Vol 1 #286 - 11 msgs



  I thought this was the freedos users list. Is it just me or do
these
  topics seem more like they belong in/on the developers list?. It was all
  over my head anyway
  Jon.
 
 You have a point, but please trim your quotes, especially when you
 receive the digest version of the mailing list.  (And could someone
 please block [EMAIL PROTECTED] off the list?  I think
 their idiot autoresponder is replying to its own replies.)


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Re: [Freedos-user] Some automagic SETVER for FreeDOS

2004-11-03 Thread Nicholas Basso
So why don't we query him now and find out if he was serious?

- Original Message -
From: Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 08:52
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Some automagic SETVER for FreeDOS


 Steve Nickolas - Using Windoze wrote:
  Eric Auer wrote:
 
  Hi, I fount a SETVER with source codes, and Simtel writes
  that it is part of the FreeDOS project. So we already have
  SETVER? Why did nobody tell me?
 
  http://www.bookcase.com/library/software/msdos.util.system.html
 
  - SETVERB by David McIlwraith, written in ASM, 3k binary.
 
 
  IIRC, it got yanked because the author had access to the M$ sources.
 


 Correct.  He may have been only kidding, but at the time he posted his
 SETVER code, he strongly hinted that it was derived from MS-DOS SETVER.
   So we were (and are) unable to accept it as part of FreeDOS.

 -jh


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Re: [Freedos-user] What is OS ?

2004-10-29 Thread Nicholas Basso
OS stands for operating system.

In simple terms this is the main program the computer runs.  As far as any
computer's concerned, when it's doing anything, that's the operating system.
An operating system could be any program.  If you wrote an embedded computer
program to manage a thermostat for your home, that's an operating system.
It's what runs on the CPU.

With a regular OS, time is NOT as important.  It can take three seconds to
return a value from an extremely complicated function.  Five seconds to go
to the USB port and obtain data from an external device.  Real-Time OS's
have a far more constrained view.  Time is of the essence.  A real time OS
is commonly an embedded operating system, such as the above mentioned
thermostat.  When you push the button on the box, you want to see the
current temperature in the room NOW.  Not in 3 seconds.  Not after the
loading icon has flashed a few times.  Now.  Everything is based on time,
because when the program that determines that the radiation level in the
research facility's nuclear reactor has gone above the value expected, it
must respond immediately.  When your tires lock up in your Anti-Lock Brake
system, your computer in your car (yes, there is a car in the computer)
needs to react immediately.

For more information on real time operating systems, I recommend:
http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4627965573.html
And other articles on the linuxdevices website.  Have fun!

- Original Message -
From: Prasad Mehendale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:17
Subject: [Freedos-user] What is OS ?


 Hallo all !
 I hope I am not asking an Off Topic question.
 I am a designer of microcontroller based systems, and prefer to write in
assembly for speed and small size.
 I never learned anything about an OS systematically though I used some
(dos  linux).
 My question is-
 Is it possible to describe an OS in short ? If yes, can any one do this
for me? You also may provide some link on net.
 I am interested in knowing the difference between the RTOS and the one we
frequently use.
 I have fair understanding of internal hardware and architecture of
micro-processor and controller. Is it sufficient to understand what an OS is
? One may describe all this with reference to Freedos.
 Thanks again.

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Re: [Freedos-user] gnuby question.

2004-10-22 Thread Nicholas Basso
Well, ripcord is an old version, try getting the b9 distro (that's the
newest).  It should give you /something/... I hope...
- Original Message -
From: Jondavey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 14:50
Subject: [Freedos-user] gnuby question.


 Hi, I`ve just installed a free-dos on a 486 that I have. The version is
 ripcord and I`ve just installed a fdos 1440 image from floppy so far. I
 have a problem. The floppy drive isn`t working. Obviousily the board can
see
 the drive cause it installed from there but I can`t cd to A:\ for
installing
 software. I am new to this but I do know haw to access the flopy drive
from
 the command line and it`s nothing to do with the hardware configuration.
 Could someone give me some advise?.
 Thanks.
 Jon Davey.



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[Freedos-user] Suggestion...

2004-04-24 Thread Nicholas Basso
Lucas Pedrosa asked me about this today, so I've decided to look into it.

For Beta9 PR4, we had a zip file containing the base package files, exes,
kernel, and such.  He used it to update his previous install to B9Pr4 value.

We need one for PR5.



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Re: [Freedos-user] Printer Problems

2004-04-21 Thread Nicholas Basso
I know this sounds rather --- anti-freeDOS, but if the MS-DOS bootable
floppy works fine and you have them and they're all well and good... why're
you needing freeDOS?
- Original Message -
From: Matt Stamm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freedos user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:00 PM
Subject: [Freedos-user] Printer Problems


 Hello all,

 I'm a fairly new freedos user. Our company uses dos-based terminal
emulation software that I'm using with freedos and I'm having problems with
the parallel printer.

 In our application we use old PC's (486/Pentium I) as dumb terminals that
contain minimal memory and a floppy drive. The emulation software boots from
a DOS-bootable floppy. The emulation software supports a printer on LPT1.

 Using MS-DOS the software works fine. When I use freedos I can not access
the printer. The printer appears to be hung. The printer being used is a
Okidata Microline. The 'hung' symptom is that the printer can't be accessed
(not even a print screen) and the printer's front control panel appears
locked, no buttons work (FF, LF, SEL, etc.). The MSDOS bootable floopy works
ok.

 Please help!

 Thank you
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Re: [Freedos-user] ArcadeOS / there seems to be a porblem (installation)

2004-04-16 Thread Nicholas Basso
HURRAH!  new Freedos Distro!
- Original Message -
From: Bernd Blaauw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] ArcadeOS / there seems to be a porblem
(installation)


 Jay Maus schreef:
  Okay, so I've started the install, and everything's going sorta okay,
  except.. well, it's bizarre.

 Jay,

 are you messing with the FreeDOS cdrom and then trying to install ArcadeOS
 on it?

 or installing FreeDOS from cdrom?

 next week(next Sunday actually) I'm releasing the next FreeDOS
distribution,
 which has an improved installation procedure.
 I have no idea, for example, why the graphical installer crashes.
 (CWSDPMI + INSTALL.EXE - General Protection Fault).

 I'm not uploading an interim version, as that would cause big problems on
the
 hosting site (many people read these mailinglists, and they would all
download
 the 10MB ISO file).

 I hope you have a bit of patience and will try next week again.
 If not, try the ODIN distribution (single diskette all with binaries).
 It's mentioned on the freedos.org mainpage.
 Final solution would be to mail me in private, and then I'll upload most
recent
 version so you (and only you) can download it.

 a workaround for getting FreeDOS installed is selecting MONO as screen.
 the graphical installer cannot handle MONOCHROME so it jumps to the
 textmode installer.

 Bernd


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: FreeDOS Bootable CD

2004-04-02 Thread Nicholas Basso
Most of the K6-2 boards I know of are good for boot on CD, if a bit shaky
with a few CD's.  CD-R's I used to have a little trouble with occasionally
but...
Anyhow, The K6-2's were identical boards nearly to the P2's, Socket7, so...
shoudln't be any different.
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Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:02 PM
Subject: [Freedos-user] Re: FreeDOS Bootable CD



 Hi, Keith sends extra information:

  The error appears after the lines that display the hd, pri, chs, start
and
  size and the bios reported 0 sectors/track assuming 63.  old
int13=f000e024
  int15=f000f859, new int13=9f48 int15=9f40027c.  The last invalid
opcode
  says f000 9f40 0216 f601 e003 0e00 0010 1504 0002 1100 f0ec f601 f003.

 He is using a K6-2 based system,
 Looks like an incompatibility between the used ISOLINUX MEMDISK version
 and the BIOS? I wonder if it helps to boot the system through Smart Boot
 Manager from a floppy instead of using the BIOS boot from CD-ROM mode.

 Explanation: MEMDISK hooks int 13 and int 15 by allocating a bit of
 low memory through the 40:[13] value (usually 640k minus something for
 things like BIOS EBDA, EzDrive/OnTrack/viruses/...: MEMDISK uses 2k)
 and a chunk of int 15 memory. Then it simulates a disk drive which is
 initialized from a file (disk image) which is loaded into the int 15
memory.

 I cannot see interesting things in the invalid opcode dump, but maybe
 the partition information (hd/pri/chs/start/size...) displayed by the
 FreeDOS kernel is interesting as well? The int13/int15 display should
 show BEFORE the FreeDOS kernel loads as far as I know.

 Does it work to boot other bootable CD-ROMs (e.g. small Linux rescue
 systems)? Which ISOLINUX versions are used? I do not have the URL for
 Smart Boot Manager around, but I think there is a bootable floppy
 download in the FreeDOS beta 9 ... download area which contains SBM
 and is already prepared to cooperate with the CD-ROM.

 Eric.


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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Bootable CD

2004-04-02 Thread Nicholas Basso



When you DL'd the cd, did you check the MD5 to make 
sure the dl was good?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Keith Weisshar 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 4:24 
AM
  Subject: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS Bootable 
  CD
  
  I'm having problem with my Freedos bootable cd 
  beta 9. I have an ibm aptiva with an k6-2 processor and 128mb of 
  ram. When I boot from the cd and press enter to run setup I get an error 
  invalid opcode at f000 9f40 etc. My CD drive is a Teac CD-W58E 8x8x32 
  CDRW.
  


Re: [Freedos-user] driver ac97 under dos?

2004-03-17 Thread Nicholas Basso
First, look into the driver CD that the motherboard manufacturer gave you.
Not just the autorun, but right click on the cd and open it, go through and
see if there's a dos directory or something containing dos drivers.
If not, look into your hardware contents in system. Probably device listing,
or if you're using W98 you have the device manager.  You need to know the
manufacturer of the AC97 soundchip.  Go to the manufacturer's website, see
if htey provide a DOS driver, many do.
If not, go online and google for it, a lot of people HAVE cobbled together
their own dos drivers for their sound cards (it's not completely unheard
of).

If all this fails, find a substitute AC97 chip (one with similar manufacture
to the one you use) and try ITS dos drivers.  It won't hurt to try.  Good
luck.
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Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: [Freedos-user] driver ac97 under dos?


 Hii,
 i am searching for an dos driver for ac97 on board sound of an soyo p4i
 845pe isa mainboard.

 How can i acces this on board sound?

 Thanks.
 Dietmar


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[Freedos-user] Sorry about multiple emails

2004-03-05 Thread Nicholas Basso
It seems my email program has had conniptions a few times for no apparent
reasons, so I'll try and see if I can't fix that.

you shouldn't receive ANY more duplicates from me, but if you do please be
patient I'm not TRYING to screw this up. :)

Thanks.

Nicholas



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Re: [Freedos-user] asus a7n8x deluxe soundstorm sound card help

2004-03-03 Thread Nicholas Basso
Okay this one I can help you with.

Unfortunately, nVidia's new SoundStorm system on their nForce2 Motherboards,
while being the most kickass thing I've ever worked with, does not seem to
provide any form of DOS drivers.  What's worse, because it's part of the
chipset it requires the unified driver they provide, which only supports
Windows 98SE or better.  I'm sorry.

What you can //try// to do is use the PCI program (located at:
http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0802 ) which will give you detailed
information regarding your PCI devices.  From there you can find the IRQ and
if you're extremely lucky maybe some info which'll help you chose a DMA, and
possibly even the memory addresses, for building the set blaster= command.

Unfortunately the odds of success at this task are less than optimistic.
However, this is what advice I can give.

Please, in the future, post in text mode, as this is read by some of us
without MS email programs and we like COMPLIANT emails.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 7:32 PM
Subject: [Freedos-user] asus a7n8x deluxe soundstorm sound card help


I have an Asus a7n8x deluxe motherboard and was wondering how i would get
sound working. Its an nvidia sound card called sound storm. Can someone help
me?



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