Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
I can boot anything and I have a system in the corner that has 12 TB of disk on it which I can build anything on. I just want to know how to get a bootable USB up with freedos running and maybe this will do it, thanks. From: Bernd Blaauw To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit Op 14-10-2011 0:25, Bret Johnson schreef: > Using my USB drivers, it is possible to make a bootable USB disk or > manipulate partitions just using standard DOS tools (FORMAT, FDISK, SYS, > etc.). You don't necessarily need Windows or *nix to do that. The drivers > still have a long ways to go before they're really "good", but can be useful > even in their current limited state. The problem more is like "how do I get my USB bootable with FreeDOS when all I've got is a single harddrive, and no options to boot from external sources". Perhaps the Syslinux installers can be modified/butchered to suit FreeDOS SYS. Unfortunately geometry for USB Flash drives in general is different from stick to stick, so providing standard (well-compressed) images is no option either. I'm not 100% convinced standard DOS FDISK/FORMAT/SYS will do the trick. Lots of USB Flash drives are unpartitioned, lacking MBR, partitions, bootsector etc. Also, getting an optimal (as in, bootable on as many systems as possible, thus a hybrid zip/floppy/hdd layout) geometry is tricky. I've not tried yet to run SYSLINUX on USB drives from DOS though, it might actually work as you say. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
Where do I find your USB drivers Bret and any information on how to use them ? From: Bret Johnson To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit > I'm retired and I fool around with lots of hardware, some of which > is nothing more then a motherboard, a keyboard and a lcd. Virtually > all motherboards come with a USB. Also when I have to deal with a > broken disk Spinrite is great but not if you can't boot it. Some > claim it will run great from a fob, but I have not been able to > figure out a way to boot it on a fob. Gone are the happy days when I > could key a bootloader into the console of a PDP-11, actually to > read a paper tape in and boot something else :)) > > Spinrite has an option to create a bootable floppy but it won't work > on a device it thinks is not removable and for whatever reason it > thinks all fobs are not removable, haven't looked into that. I > figure if I can boot freedos I should be able to turn around and run > Spinrite from that. Using my USB drivers, it is possible to make a bootable USB disk or manipulate partitions just using standard DOS tools (FORMAT, FDISK, SYS, etc.). You don't necessarily need Windows or *nix to do that. The drivers still have a long ways to go before they're really "good", but can be useful even in their current limited state. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
I'm retired and I fool around with lots of hardware, some of which is nothing more then a motherboard, a keyboard and a lcd. Virtually all motherboards come with a USB. Also when I have to deal with a broken disk Spinrite is great but not if you can't boot it. Some claim it will run great from a fob, but I have not been able to figure out a way to boot it on a fob. Gone are the happy days when I could key a bootloader into the console of a PDP-11, actually to read a paper tape in and boot something else :)) Spinrite has an option to create a bootable floppy but it won't work on a device it thinks is not removable and for whatever reason it thinks all fobs are not removable, haven't looked into that. I figure if I can boot freedos I should be able to turn around and run Spinrite from that. UIDE ? I don't mind alpha software, I have nothing better to do :)) I will have to look at it. MicroCrap is a pain but a 75% solution to most things since you can probably buy something or find some freeware someplace that will almost do. Unfortionately it doesn't work on all itx boards. And Fobs are so much nicer then any other portable media, any CD can become damaged, fobs are very reliable and I can fit maybe 10 in my pocket and they can all be 32GB or less. If they had only had these when I started out 40+ years ago... I am aware of all the floppy stuff, thanks but no thanks. ____ From: Rugxulo To: Wayne Graves ; freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit Hi, On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Wayne Graves wrote: > > I needed something standalone to run dos disk tools with and was hoping to > use Freedos. DOS disk tools on FreeDOS? Shouldn't be a problem. ;-) > I was also trying to figure out a way to get Spinrite to run on a fob. Spinrite (famously?) works with FreeDOS, though I've not tried personally. http://www.grc.com/sr/faq.htm "SpinRite is self-contained, including its own bootable FreeDOS operating system" > I don't have any systems with floppy drives anymore and I discovered > that I can't boot freedos from a CD with my current configuration, I wonder if latest UIDE would work better (assuming you're only using "old" FD 1.0 from 2006). If you're adventurous (and willing to accept alpha quality bugs), try 1.1 test #3. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.1-test3/ > I suspect > it's because I am in AHCI for the SATA interfaces but having a FOB is a > better solution since I have systems that don't have a CD/DVD or a floppy No floppy I would understand (though USB drives exist), but no CD/DVD? Must be a netbook. > and all of them have USB's and if the problem is AHCI it's a pain to go into > the BIO's and switch back and forth continuously to try out some standalone > tool. Don't worry, MS Win8 will "fix" that for you. :-P > If I can build fobs with everything on them that I can boot it makes > it all earier since they are so easy to transport For completeness, I'm listing this (though you don't need floppies), aka Rawrite for Windows: http://www.chrysocome.net/rawwrite If you don't need persistent (modifiable) storage, you can use UNetBootIn: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ > and it' hard to get a CD in your pocket ;) Mini-CDs might work (e.g. "old" DamnSmallLinux swore by them) though I dunno if all drives handle them.-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
I needed something standalone to run dos disk tools with and was hoping to use Freedos. I was also trying to figure out a way to get Spinrite to run on a fob. I don't have any systems with floppy drives anymore and I discovered that I can't boot freedos from a CD with my current configuration, I suspect it's because I am in AHCI for the SATA interfaces but having a FOB is a better solution since I have systems that don't have a CD/DVD or a floppy and all of them have USB's and if the problem is AHCI it's a pain to go into the BIO's and switch back and forth continuously to try out some standalone tool. If I can build fobs with everything on them that I can boot it makes it all earier since they are so easy to transport and it' hard to get a CD in your pocket ;) From: Bernd Blaauw To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit Op 13-10-2011 21:44, Wayne Graves schreef: > Unlike .exe's you can't set compatability on .com's > > I suspect sys.com just writes the boot block on the target device ? Any > sugestions ? > Thanks Microsoft removed the 16bit compatibility layer on 64bit operating systems, sorry. As we don't have a 32bit/64bit version of SYS : * for floppies I'd recommend using WinImage and just write a downloaded FreeDOS floppy image file to diskette. * for USB flash drives I'd recommend using the HP USB Formatting tool followed by Syslinux bootloader. What are you wanting to use SYS on/for? Sometimes a virtualisation product can help a bit. -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] sys.com not executable on Windows 7 64bit
I was trying to create a bootable fob on Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1, but sys.com won't execute,The Error I get is... This version of sys.com is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running. Check your computer's system information to see whether you need a x86 (32- bit) or x64 (64-bit) version of the program, and then contact the software publisher. Unlike .exe's you can't set compatability on .com's I suspect sys.com just writes the boot block on the target device ? Any sugestions ? Thanks-- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
