Re: [Freedos-user] Ré : Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

2022-03-29 Thread Louis Santillan
One thing you can try is to remove the IDE HDD drive from the 486, connect
it to a USB drive adapter, then use VirtualBox/qemu/et al. to install
FreeDOS to it.  You can use an adapter like this one (
https://www.ebay.com/itm/124411032918).  Should have a JMicron chip in it
which all modern OSes will know how to deal with.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 2:50 PM John Vella  wrote:

> Hi Eric!
>
> I do have the img images for wordperfect, which I have transferred to
> floppy disk. The pc doesn't boot from cd, in fact I can't even get the bios
> to recognise the cd drive, as the hard drive parameters have to be manually
> entered. I have an isa sound Blaster awe 64 value, with ide connector,
> which I believe will allow me to access the drive, although boring from it
> probably won't be possible. Not a problem!
>
> My main problem at this point is that the pc is currently in the living
> room, which is another reason for the original virtual machine plan.
>
> Thinking about it, I could actually have done the complete installation
> from floppy disk by now! I'll have a look tomorrow.
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022, 22:36 Eric Auer,  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I think wordperfect for DOS came on floppies, yes.
>> And you can connect ATAPI CD/DVD drives to typical
>> 486  computers. There also are special boot loaders
>> which you can load from floppy to continue booting
>> from CD/DVD in case your BIOS does not yet support
>> direct booting from CD/DVD :-)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Ré : Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

2022-03-29 Thread John Vella
Hi Eric!

I do have the img images for wordperfect, which I have transferred to
floppy disk. The pc doesn't boot from cd, in fact I can't even get the bios
to recognise the cd drive, as the hard drive parameters have to be manually
entered. I have an isa sound Blaster awe 64 value, with ide connector,
which I believe will allow me to access the drive, although boring from it
probably won't be possible. Not a problem!

My main problem at this point is that the pc is currently in the living
room, which is another reason for the original virtual machine plan.

Thinking about it, I could actually have done the complete installation
from floppy disk by now! I'll have a look tomorrow.


On Tue, 29 Mar 2022, 22:36 Eric Auer,  wrote:

>
> Hi!
>
> I think wordperfect for DOS came on floppies, yes.
> And you can connect ATAPI CD/DVD drives to typical
> 486  computers. There also are special boot loaders
> which you can load from floppy to continue booting
> from CD/DVD in case your BIOS does not yet support
> direct booting from CD/DVD :-)
>
> Eric
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Ré : Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

2022-03-29 Thread Eric Auer



Hi!

I think wordperfect for DOS came on floppies, yes.
And you can connect ATAPI CD/DVD drives to typical
486  computers. There also are special boot loaders
which you can load from floppy to continue booting
from CD/DVD in case your BIOS does not yet support
direct booting from CD/DVD :-)

Eric



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[Freedos-user] Ré : Installing freedos to virtualbox them copying dice contents to an actual computer

2022-03-29 Thread Paul Dufresne via Freedos-user
 Activé mar., 29 mars 2022 14:38:06 -0400 John Vella 
 écrit 



Hi,

So, I've got the 486 computer working and am ready to install freedos and 
wordperfect.



I'm thinking there are a couple of advantages to installing onto a virtualbox 
machine, then formatting the physical hard drive and copying the contents over. 








[Post thinking]
I did not follow your previous situation.
The obvious problem is the media... 486 unlikely to have CD... USB keys?
Is wordperfect on floppies? Then transfering them to floppy images would be 
better to keep them long.
[just don't know... End post thinking]

It sound a bit harder to me than just installing on the 486.

You would have to choose a raw format for the virtual hard drive.
Surely doable in QEmu... I am a bit less sure for others.
I would not format the hard drive because the virtual disk would be partitioned 
and formated.
Then for copying I would try to use dd command in a very light 32 bit Linux... 
but I am unsure how you want to do it.___
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