Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-20 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Wolfram!

  There was also some version called STM which is more tuned towards DOS
  than plain DJGPP svgatextmode port I believe, but I forgot the details.

 More tuned towards DOS? In what way exactly?

 When I ported this version, there was already some DOS support in the
 code. Alas, it was completely broken due to the latest Linux additions.
 So, I made it compile again and changed a bit...

Oh okay I did not know you already repaired this thing :-)
My comparison was between the old some DOS support and
that STM tool, not your fixed / improved / revamped port,
sorry about that ;-)

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-20 Thread Michael Reichenbach
Switch resolution is in my association like in windows display settings
where you can change it and not about lines.

Whatever I do with mode, it switches the lines and fonts but it never
switches the resolution directly.

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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-20 Thread Wolfram Sang

 Whatever I do with mode, it switches the lines and fonts but it never
 switches the resolution directly.
Then try SVGATextMode :) It lets you calculate custom resolutions 
(although the calculation can be a bit tricky).

Wolfram


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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-20 Thread Michael Reichenbach
Wolfram Sang schrieb:
 Whatever I do with mode, it switches the lines and fonts but it never
 switches the resolution directly.
 Then try SVGATextMode :) It lets you calculate custom resolutions 
 (although the calculation can be a bit tricky).

Ok, thanks I have downloaded it. I have only a standard/usual TFT...

Well, I don't get really what program to use and what to enter to switch
resolution?

-mr

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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-20 Thread Michael Reichenbach
Michael Reichenbach schrieb:
 Wolfram Sang schrieb:
...

Small remark. If needed to know, my graphic card is also a
standard/usual one. A pretty new one (much time after DOS) but with
latest Vesa 3.0, no exotic one like S3 or so.

-mr

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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-20 Thread Wolfram Sang
 Well, I don't get really what program to use and what to enter to switch
 resolution?
Have a look at the config file. If you are lucky, you will find a 
textmode there which fits your needs and works with your setup ('STM 
gfxmode'). If not, then there is documentation how to create new modes 
from scratch which can be added to the config file. Sadly, I can't 
recall too much details right now; that's all some two years ago...

All the best,

Wolfram


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[Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-19 Thread Eric
I have a Sony Vaio PCG-C!VN laptop, which has a 1024x480 screen size.  I'd like 
to install FreeDOS on it, but the display is such that it leaves large amounts 
of unused black space on both sides of the screen.  Is there a way to set the 
display so that I can use the entire screen?





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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-19 Thread Eric Auer

Hi!

 I have a Sony Vaio PCG-C!VN laptop, which has a 1024x480 screen size.

Interesting. Made in 2000 but panoramatic ;-)

 I'd like to install FreeDOS on it, but the display is such that it
 leaves large amounts of unused black space on both sides of the screen.

This is because C1VN's 1024x480 is a (very) widescreen resolution...
(25x15x3cm, 400MHz Crusoe, 128MB, 12GB, USB, fiwi, modem, pccard, audio)

 Is there a way to set the display so that I can use the entire screen?

Standard modes are for example 720x400 and 640x480, but you should
play with MODE a bit to see if you find a mode that suits your
screen a bit better. As far as I understand, your Vaio can stretch
the image to touch 2 edges of the screen but refuses to distort it
to stretch it further to fill the whole screen. But maybe it has
some special (BIOS) hotkey to enable whole screen mode? Check the
handbook :-). Apart from MODE you can also try a VESA or other tool
to select other supported graphics modes. Note that non-text will
be slow in DOS and not all DOS apps will support it: The BIOS has
to draw chars as graphics in non-text modes and some apps bypass
the BIOS and try to put text on the screen themselves. Enjoy the
tuning and send an update to tell what you found out :-).

Eric (too :-))

PS: There are also more evil ways which can create custom more
exotic modes for you. Least exotic 2.1:1 mode would be 720x350,
combining aspects of normal modes: EGA 9x14 font / 80x25 chars.
Maybe you even find a sequence of MODE calls that end up there.


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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-19 Thread Michael Reichenbach
Can I switch in DOS somehow from standard/default resolution (320*200 ?)
to 1024*768?

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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-19 Thread Wolfram Sang
 handbook :-). Apart from MODE you can also try a VESA or other tool
 to select other supported graphics modes. Note that non-text will
If you are into experimenting a bit, try SVGATEXTMODE. It can give very 
unusual textmodes. Drawback is, considering your hardware, I guess you 
must find the correct values on your own.

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/svgatextmode_1_9_16rc1-dos.tgz

All the best,

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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-19 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Wolfram,

 If you are into experimenting a bit, try SVGATEXTMODE. It can give very
 unusual textmodes. Drawback is, considering your hardware, I guess you
 must find the correct values on your own.

 www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/svgatextmode_1_9_16rc1-dos.tgz

There was also some version called STM which is more tuned towards DOS
than plain DJGPP svgatextmode port I believe, but I forgot the details.

However, here is your MODE sequence:

MODE co80
MODE con lines=43
MODE con lines=14

This selects 80x25 720x400 9x16 mode, then switches to EGA ???x350
resolution and finally switches to ?x14 font which means that you
get 25 lines in (roughly) 350 pixels. If the X resolution stays at
720 (it might switch to 640, not sure) then you end up with 720x350
(with 9x14 style font) resolution suitable for 2:1 wide screen :-).

Actually in DOSEMU there even is a VESA text mode with 132x60 with
8x8 font using 1056x480 pixels: mode con lines=60 cols=132 and then
mode con lines=16 gives you 132x30 with 8x16 font there... However
1056 pixels is just a bit too much to fit the 1024x480 Vaio. Still
you could start at the 132x30 SVGATextMode parameters to derive a
new 128x30 or 112x30 set of parameters for SVGATextMode (non VESA).

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-19 Thread Eric
Thanks all for the assistance.  

I tried using mode.  I still get a little more than an inch on each side, and 
when I tried the settings, the fonts on the programs I am using were all messed 
up (Quattro Pro and MS Works).

I'll look into some of the svga/vga options and report back in a few days. 

--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Display size
To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 11:31 PM

Hi Wolfram,

 If you are into experimenting a bit, try SVGATEXTMODE. It can give very
 unusual textmodes. Drawback is, considering your hardware, I guess you
 must find the correct values on your own.


www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/user/svgatextmode_1_9_16rc1-dos.tgz

There was also some version called STM which is more tuned towards DOS
than plain DJGPP svgatextmode port I believe, but I forgot the details.

However, here is your MODE sequence:

MODE co80
MODE con lines=43
MODE con lines=14

This selects 80x25 720x400 9x16 mode, then switches to EGA ???x350
resolution and finally switches to ?x14 font which means that you
get 25 lines in (roughly) 350 pixels. If the X resolution stays at
720 (it might switch to 640, not sure) then you end up with 720x350
(with 9x14 style font) resolution suitable for 2:1 wide screen :-).

Actually in DOSEMU there even is a VESA text mode with 132x60 with
8x8 font using 1056x480 pixels: mode con lines=60 cols=132 and then
mode con lines=16 gives you 132x30 with 8x16 font there... However
1056 pixels is just a bit too much to fit the 1024x480 Vaio. Still
you could start at the 132x30 SVGATextMode parameters to derive a
new 128x30 or 112x30 set of parameters for SVGATextMode (non VESA).

Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] Display size

2008-08-19 Thread Wolfram Sang
 There was also some version called STM which is more tuned towards DOS
 than plain DJGPP svgatextmode port I believe, but I forgot the details.

More tuned towards DOS? In what way exactly?

When I ported this version, there was already some DOS support in the 
code. Alas, it was completely broken due to the latest Linux additions. 
So, I made it compile again and changed a bit of the behaviour to be 
more DOS-friendly. I may be wrong, but I'd think this is the most 
DOS-tuned version around (let alone that I haven't found a single 
download for the older DOS-binaries back then). Believe me, there was 
more involved than just running DJGPP over the code :)

All the best,

Wolfram


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Re: [Freedos-user] display size+resolution

2005-11-05 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino

Hi,

A bit more of information is required. As you are talking about full 
screen, it seems that you are not running [Free]DOS standalone, but 
inside a virtualizer or emulator, which one? DOSEMU?


Aitor

seorge escribió:
I've downloaded a bunch of old dos-games (some of them from '80s) for my 
dauhhter, but some of those games won't run in full-screen mode. Instead of 
full-screen I got some incorrect resolition and wierd screen-size. Can it be 
fixed globally, os should I try to setup display parameters for each 
application separately?
BTW: where can I download (get) the superfrog game for x86, because i've find 
only amiga and win32 files? But I remember there was an x86 version of this 
game for DOS.
Thanks in advance!  




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[Freedos-user] display size+resolution

2005-11-03 Thread seorge
I've downloaded a bunch of old dos-games (some of them from '80s) for my 
dauhhter, but some of those games won't run in full-screen mode. Instead of 
full-screen I got some incorrect resolition and wierd screen-size. Can it be 
fixed globally, os should I try to setup display parameters for each 
application separately?
BTW: where can I download (get) the superfrog game for x86, because i've find 
only amiga and win32 files? But I remember there was an x86 version of this 
game for DOS.
Thanks in advance!  


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Re: [Freedos-user] display size+resolution

2005-11-03 Thread seorge
 Um, does FreeDOS have a windowed mode? Never heard of that.
Not windowed mode. 
When I say not full-screen I mean only a small box is visible in the center of 
the monitor and everything else in the corners is black and even this small 
box is not a box actually, but it has some wierd forms and corners.
 Do you use a CRT or TFT display?
I have an old CRT G50 monitor manufactured in 1996.
 Download legally? No way. Just ask Team17: http://www.team17.com/
Thanks. 
I've expected that it should be a kind of abandonware these days :)

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To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] display size+resolution
Date: Thursday 03 November 2005 14:45
 seorge wrote:
  dauhhter, but some of those games won't run in full-screen mode. Instead
  of

 Um, does FreeDOS have a windowed mode? Never heard of that.

  full-screen I got some incorrect resolition and wierd screen-size. Can it
  be

 Do you use a CRT or TFT display?

  BTW: where can I download (get) the superfrog game for x86, because i've
  find

 Download legally? No way. Just ask Team17: http://www.team17.com/

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Re: [Freedos-user] display size+resolution

2005-11-03 Thread Robert Riebisch
seorge wrote:

 Not windowed mode.

OK

 When I say not full-screen I mean only a small box is visible in the center of
 the monitor and everything else in the corners is black and even this small
 box is not a box actually, but it has some wierd forms and corners.

That's either a problem with your monitor or graphics card. It's not
FreeDOS related. Sorry.

 I've expected that it should be a kind of abandonware these days :)

It's not. see the-underdogs.org

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