Re: [Freedos-user] How to build a boot diskette for NTFS4DOS?

2005-07-11 Thread Bernd Blaauw

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:

Hi All:

OK, I'm confused.  I want to try to get NTFS4DOS working from a
bootable CD and loaded into high memory (using DEVICEHIGH).
My first attempt was a failure and resulted in an out of
memory error.  I forget the exact message.


Despite me also sending a CC to the authors of this NTFS4DOS program, 
please do send any responses only to freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net

Don't want to harrass a commercial company :)

I don't have experience with actually working with NTFS4DOS, only with 
getting it to run. Below are the configuration files I have used, with 
maximum options selected by the Windows installation program.


Also I have no experience yet with getting it to load into XMS or UMBs,
using EMM386 or UMBPCI [http://www.uwe-sieber.de/umbpci_e.html]

The software company which has released NTFS4DOS as 'freeware for 
non-commercial goals/usage' should be able to offer a diskette image of 
their program for download based on FreeDOS components, but so far they 
have not opted to do so.


I might be able to integrate the configuration files into the FreeDOS 
distribution, but that's not much of a help to you right now :)


NTFS4DOS.EXE seems to shutdown all access to XMS, as it loads the shell 
again (a child process) that uses 80KB of conventional memory instead of 
3KB + XMS.


The chkdsk.exe program the firm supplies, is incompatible with the 
FreeDOS kernel. No idea why actually. So, I skip this program if FreeDOS 
is loaded (or actually, Freecom, the FreeDOS command.com)


I don't know if NTFSDOS works with older MSDOS versions. It loads 
properly on MSDOS 6.xx, but if it actually works is yet to be determined.
older DOS versions (5.00 for example) do not understand the config.sys 
menu system, but are accepted by the windows NTFS4DOS installation program.


As I'm not that company, and thus not the author of NTFS4DOS program, I 
can't offer a ready2run diskette image based on FreeDOS components.
Besides, my bootdisk has a dualboot between systemfiles of both MSDOS 
7.10 and Fdos.


I've renamed menu labels to digits, as that's the only menuing system 
that FreeDOS understands, and that also works in MSDOS


Installation file for Windows available from
http://www.datapol.de/dpe/freeware/index.html

FreeDOS files available from www.freedos.org and www.fdos.org/kernel

Contents of configuration files follows below.

regards,

Bernd Blaauw


*** autoexec.bat (common for all DOS)

@echo off
if exist vtmode.com vtmode.com
if %config%==3 A:\DFRGNTFS.EXE
if %config%==2 A:\chkdskg.exe
if %_CWD%== chkdsk.exe
set ramd=
cls
NTFS4DOS.EXE /r2 %comspec% /K cpyrdcc.bat


*** config.sys (msdos 6.00 or higher, including Win95/98/ME):

[menu]
menuitem=1,NTFS4DOS
menuitem=2,Check Disk Utility
menuitem=3,Defragment NTFS
menudefault=1,20

[1]

[2]

[3]

[common]
device=a:\himem.sys
dos=high
files=100
LASTDRIVE=P
shell=a:\command.com a:\ /p

*** fdconfig.sys (FreeDOS specific, preferred over config.sys if present):

menu 1 - NTFS4DOS
menu 2 - Check Disk Utility
menu 3 - Defragment NTFS
menudefault=1,20
123?rem ;
device=a:\himem.exe
dos=high
files=100
LASTDRIVE=P
shell=a:\command.com a:\ /P


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[Freedos-user] How to build a boot diskette for NTFS4DOS?

2005-07-10 Thread kd4d
Hi All:

OK, I'm confused.  I want to try to get NTFS4DOS working from a
bootable CD and loaded into high memory (using DEVICEHIGH).
My first attempt was a failure and resulted in an out of
memory error.  I forget the exact message.

I sent an e-mail to the list asking if anyone has done this, but
didn't get any responses.  :-(  There have been lots of e-mails
about debugging problems with loading programs (and drivers
I suppose) high and various options to EMM386 like MEMCHECK
which I intend to try.

I need to put a complete FreeDOS environment on the floppy.
I think I need the newest versions of EMM386 and
HIMEM.SYS to be on the safe side.  Do I need a new kernel
or can I use the stock one?  (I mean the one from Beta9SR1
(either the installation CD or the ODIN distribution).

I can get a reasonable config.sys/autoexec.bat from my hard
disk installation, since the ones on ODIN are not useful.

Other than the new EMM386 and HIMEM, and possibly a new
kernel, should I update anything else (command.com?
FORMAT, SYS, something else...)?

Thanks.  I know FreeDOS hasn't done a stable release yet,
but it really is an amazing achievement and very useable.
And, it is the only one of the DOS variants I've found that's
explicitely redistributeable.

I appreciate all the hard work that has gone into FreeDOS.

Mark Bailey



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