Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
Para : GuillemDe : Javier De La Rosa Perigault e-mail : jdlrp...@yahoo.com Hola:A. Necesito hacer un disco multi-partición, que por lo menos contenga una partición con el equivalente de MSDOS 6.22, y una partición de Linux. Me puede ayudar ? Gracias,Javier De La Rosa Perigaultx On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:13 AM, Guillem guilevi2...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve tried DOSemu with the Orca screenreader before. it could read the screen in terminal or dumb mode, but for some reason, when new text scrolled into the screen, the screenreader read the whole screen. Haven’t had a chance to try this with speakup, and right now I doubt I could anyway since I somehow busted my speech dispatcher and my Orca’s pretty much dead. I believe VMWare is trying to emulate a Sound Blaster 16, or that’s what it says on the vmx file. I haven’t looked up much info about the soundcard under DOS though. What I do know is that VMWare does try to use a PC speaker, and windows doesn’t let it do that. For most vintage audiogames the PC speaker beeps are used to help you aim so they’re sort of important. On 12 Jan 2015, at 20:24, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi Guillem, In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways. Normally, Dosemu uses the soundcard of your PC, not the built-in speaker, and emulates a Sound Blaster for DOS. Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon Deluxe. My suggestion was to use not a screen reader for DOS, but to use a screen reader for Linux. When you then run a DOS game in dosemu, the screen reader should be able to read that, too. It can help to use the text-only mode of dosemu, which is admittedly less cool than the graphical xdosemu. My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode, Interesting idea! except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this. The so-called Sound Blaster PCI and Sound Blaster Live came with their own DOS software which emulates a Sound Blaster: Despite the name, those PCI sound cards actually have more AC97 style hardware, so their DOS support only works through their DOS TSR driver which seems to work quite okay once you get it to work... Of course this does not help you for a laptop, as you cannot exchange the soundcard there. Also, I am not aware of DOS SoundBlaster emulation drivers for USB sound sticks. Beyond the suggested dosemu and dosbox trick. Regards, Eric -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. www.gigenet.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
I’ve tried DOSemu with the Orca screenreader before. it could read the screen in terminal or dumb mode, but for some reason, when new text scrolled into the screen, the screenreader read the whole screen. Haven’t had a chance to try this with speakup, and right now I doubt I could anyway since I somehow busted my speech dispatcher and my Orca’s pretty much dead. I believe VMWare is trying to emulate a Sound Blaster 16, or that’s what it says on the vmx file. I haven’t looked up much info about the soundcard under DOS though. What I do know is that VMWare does try to use a PC speaker, and windows doesn’t let it do that. For most vintage audiogames the PC speaker beeps are used to help you aim so they’re sort of important. On 12 Jan 2015, at 20:24, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi Guillem, In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways. Normally, Dosemu uses the soundcard of your PC, not the built-in speaker, and emulates a Sound Blaster for DOS. Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon Deluxe. My suggestion was to use not a screen reader for DOS, but to use a screen reader for Linux. When you then run a DOS game in dosemu, the screen reader should be able to read that, too. It can help to use the text-only mode of dosemu, which is admittedly less cool than the graphical xdosemu. My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode, Interesting idea! except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this. The so-called Sound Blaster PCI and Sound Blaster Live came with their own DOS software which emulates a Sound Blaster: Despite the name, those PCI sound cards actually have more AC97 style hardware, so their DOS support only works through their DOS TSR driver which seems to work quite okay once you get it to work... Of course this does not help you for a laptop, as you cannot exchange the soundcard there. Also, I am not aware of DOS SoundBlaster emulation drivers for USB sound sticks. Beyond the suggested dosemu and dosbox trick. Regards, Eric -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. www.gigenet.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
(forwarding from Guillem) In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways. Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon Deluxe. My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode, except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this. Thank you. On 11 Jan 2015, at 22:19, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: Hi Guillem, for another solution of your screen reader problem, you could use Linux (for which free screen readers and Braille drivers, both serial and USB are available) and run your old DOS tools in Dosemu or Dosbox inside Linux. That will emulate a classic Sound Blaster for DOS, no matter what your actual hardware is using for the sound. Would that be an option for you? Regards, Eric -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. vanity: www.gigenet.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
Hi Guillem, In response to Eric, I have tried DOSemu and I did manage to get the serial ports to work. I had a few problems with it, though. Neither the PC speaker or the Sound Blaster worked. To be honest I’m not sure if the netbook I was running it on has a PC speaker anyways. Normally, Dosemu uses the soundcard of your PC, not the built-in speaker, and emulates a Sound Blaster for DOS. Another one of my problems with DOSemu is that, for some reason, when i tried to use my DOS screenreader's review mode, the either the emulator or the reader crashed. I can’t get out of review mode and my only way out is by exiting the emulator. I could of course use terminal or dumb mode but those don’t like some of the games I’ve tried, such as Eamon Deluxe. My suggestion was to use not a screen reader for DOS, but to use a screen reader for Linux. When you then run a DOS game in dosemu, the screen reader should be able to read that, too. It can help to use the text-only mode of dosemu, which is admittedly less cool than the graphical xdosemu. My most stable alternative right now is my Windows 3.1 VMWare virtual machine, which actually works pretty well both in DOS and Windows mode, Interesting idea! except for the sound blaster which only works inside Windows. I might postpone the dualboot until a better alternative is available since I don’t think I’ll purchase a new laptop just for this. The so-called Sound Blaster PCI and Sound Blaster Live came with their own DOS software which emulates a Sound Blaster: Despite the name, those PCI sound cards actually have more AC97 style hardware, so their DOS support only works through their DOS TSR driver which seems to work quite okay once you get it to work... Of course this does not help you for a laptop, as you cannot exchange the soundcard there. Also, I am not aware of DOS SoundBlaster emulation drivers for USB sound sticks. Beyond the suggested dosemu and dosbox trick. Regards, Eric -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. www.gigenet.com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
Hello, I am currently considering the possibility of dualbooting my Windows computer with FreeDOS. I have the resources to do so (FreeDOS installation CD image which I can burn to a flashdrive, 512mb unallocated space on my main drive which I will make a FAT32 partition on, etc) but I’m only struggling with two problems. I haven’t found the answer to them online so I dedcided to post here. My first problem is that I need a serial port to use my computer in FreeDOS. The reason is that I am completely blind. As such, I use a program called a screen reader, which essentially does what it’s name suggests, read the screen. To read it, it uses a separate tool called a speech synthesizer. A speech synthesizer basically turns any text into speech (most of the time, anyway :D). On a modern system, such as Windows, there are dozens of software speech synthesizers out there (eSpeak, vocalizer, ETI-Eloquence) which I can use with my screenreader. DOS, though, had very few software synthesizers, and the ones which were available weren’t usable via an external screenreader. People used external speech synthesizers, attached to their computers via the serial port. I myself own a quite old notetaker for the blind, the “Braille ’n Speak 2000”, which has a built-in speech synthesizer. My problem is, though, that being a quite modern HP computer made and bought in 2014, it does not have a serial port. Under windows 8.1, I have used a Prolific PL-2303 adapter. It works flawlessly and I can use all of the serial features of the Braille ’n Speak with it. The thing is, I haven’t seen any mention to this working under FreeDOS. Could anyone here tell me if it is possible to use one of these adapters? This brings me to my second question. The sound card. I am aware that windows pretty much blocks out the PC speaker, even though I think my computer has one. FreeDOS does allow it, I believe. What I don’t know is if I’ll be able to actually somehow emulate a sound card, possibly a Sound Blaster compatible one, with the integrated realtek one my PC has. This is also quite important for me since most of the games that I’ll run under FreeDOS need the sound card to emit sound. I hope someone here can point me in the right direction. I would really appreciate any help that you may be able to provide me with this. Thanks in advance. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:39:29 +0100, Guillem guilevi2...@gmail.com wrote: My problem is, though, that being a quite modern HP computer made and bought in 2014, it does not have a serial port. Under windows 8.1, I have used a Prolific PL-2303 adapter. It works flawlessly and I can use all of the serial features of the Braille ’n Speak with it. The thing is, I haven’t seen any mention to this working under FreeDOS. Could anyone here tell me if it is possible to use one of these adapters? The DOSUSB drivers by Georg Potthast include a driver which claims to support adapters with Prolific chipsets. I don't have such an adapter myself, so I don't know how well it works. This brings me to my second question. The sound card. I am aware that windows pretty much blocks out the PC speaker, even though I think my computer has one. FreeDOS does allow it, I believe. What I don’t know is if I’ll be able to actually somehow emulate a sound card, possibly a Sound Blaster compatible one, with the integrated realtek one my PC has. There is a program called VSB which emulates a Sound Blaster and sends the output to the PC speaker or a Covox Speech Thing (which despite its name is only a digital-to-analog converter connected to the parallel port). However, it is only compatible with real mode software, and even then not all of it. The quality, of course, is not that great, but it is probably good enough for speech. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB to serial adapters and soundcard emulation on FreeDOS
I think you might need to consider a vintage laptop. I have FreeDOS installed on a Compaq Armada 1750 and using Mpxplay, the sound is amazing through front/top firing speakers with side bass ports. I have yet to get Qview configured properly, for sound, but since that is the case with every PC I own, it must be me. The Compaq Armada has a PII 366 processor, 320MB RAM, 800x600 graphics, ESS 1869 sound card, serial and parallel ports, video out port, Keyboard in, PCMCIA II (works great with wired D-Link card for FDNPKG install) and USB 1.1 as well as infrared transfer capabilities. On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Matej Horvat matej.hor...@guest.arnes.si wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:39:29 +0100, Guillem guilevi2...@gmail.com wrote: My problem is, though, that being a quite modern HP computer made and bought in 2014, it does not have a serial port. Under windows 8.1, I have used a Prolific PL-2303 adapter. It works flawlessly and I can use all of the serial features of the Braille ’n Speak with it. The thing is, I haven’t seen any mention to this working under FreeDOS. Could anyone here tell me if it is possible to use one of these adapters? The DOSUSB drivers by Georg Potthast include a driver which claims to support adapters with Prolific chipsets. I don't have such an adapter myself, so I don't know how well it works. This brings me to my second question. The sound card. I am aware that windows pretty much blocks out the PC speaker, even though I think my computer has one. FreeDOS does allow it, I believe. What I don’t know is if I’ll be able to actually somehow emulate a sound card, possibly a Sound Blaster compatible one, with the integrated realtek one my PC has. There is a program called VSB which emulates a Sound Blaster and sends the output to the PC speaker or a Covox Speech Thing (which despite its name is only a digital-to-analog converter connected to the parallel port). However, it is only compatible with real mode software, and even then not all of it. The quality, of course, is not that great, but it is probably good enough for speech. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
