Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
Lifts hand!! do share, you never know who might find them joyously useful. Kare On Mon, 24 Jul 2023, Daniel Essin via Freedos-user wrote: I have a box full of PCMCIA ethernet cards. If anyone could use one, I could search them out and post a list. Dan On 7/24/23 6:13 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: On 7/24/2023 6:06 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: > Hi folks, > Too many layers in the process for me to try the install. > That and the thinkpad, which is a thinkpad 600x is not in condition for > the work it seems. > I do wonder though if the freedos networking options would have > functioned with the on-board Ethernet structure? Does your 600x include an Ethernet port "on-board", AFAIK, they didn't and you needed (as it was pre-USB days) an PCMCIA/CardBus adapter and that's where the soft brown matter hits the fast rotating appliance... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
I have a box full of PCMCIA ethernet cards. If anyone could use one, I could search them out and post a list. Dan On 7/24/23 6:13 PM, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: On 7/24/2023 6:06 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Hi folks, Too many layers in the process for me to try the install. That and the thinkpad, which is a thinkpad 600x is not in condition for the work it seems. I do wonder though if the freedos networking options would have functioned with the on-board Ethernet structure? Does your 600x include an Ethernet port "on-board", AFAIK, they didn't and you needed (as it was pre-USB days) an PCMCIA/CardBus adapter and that's where the soft brown matter hits the fast rotating appliance... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
yes, it has an ethernet port..USB ones as well. On Mon, 24 Jul 2023, Ralf Quint via Freedos-user wrote: On 7/24/2023 6:06 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Hi folks, Too many layers in the process for me to try the install. That and the thinkpad, which is a thinkpad 600x is not in condition for the work it seems. I do wonder though if the freedos networking options would have functioned with the on-board Ethernet structure? Does your 600x include an Ethernet port "on-board", AFAIK, they didn't and you needed (as it was pre-USB days) an PCMCIA/CardBus adapter and that's where the soft brown matter hits the fast rotating appliance... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
On 7/24/2023 6:06 PM, Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: Hi folks, Too many layers in the process for me to try the install. That and the thinkpad, which is a thinkpad 600x is not in condition for the work it seems. I do wonder though if the freedos networking options would have functioned with the on-board Ethernet structure? Does your 600x include an Ethernet port "on-board", AFAIK, they didn't and you needed (as it was pre-USB days) an PCMCIA/CardBus adapter and that's where the soft brown matter hits the fast rotating appliance... Ralf ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
Hi folks, Too many layers in the process for me to try the install. That and the thinkpad, which is a thinkpad 600x is not in condition for the work it seems. I do wonder though if the freedos networking options would have functioned with the on-board Ethernet structure? Thanks, Karen ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
I have an IBM Thinkpad T43 and also either an R40 or R60, (I'd have to go upstairs and check) so if your laptop is either one of those, let me know and I'll try an install. On Fri, 21 Jul 2023 at 03:18, tom ehlert via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > I have it myself already, unless there has been a update, but wanted to > ask. > > please explain this. > > Tom > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
> I have it myself already, unless there has been a update, but wanted to ask. please explain this. Tom ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
not sure why this came privately. Here is the situation. I experience sight loss, and am taking this thinkpad to my office where an associate is going to serve as my reader. Neither i, or anyone in the office space has access to a cd unit. Likewise I will not know in advance what thinkpad, but imagine it is old enough to perhaps match one of the networking drivers provided. So I am seeking the following. 1. are there floppy images for freedos, and if so where might I download them? 2. does this latest edition include the referenced set of networking drivers, and is there an option to install them? 3. does this latest compile include the last edition of the Links browser that uses some forms of JavaScript? I have it myself already, unless there has been a update, but wanted to ask. Thanks everyone, Karen On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Rugxulo wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 5:45 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: meaning that packet drivers are included in packages, or that I will need to hunt them? You'll have to hunt for them, sadly. also, is there a install copy that lets me save items to floppies? I don't know, but it should be easy to save. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
Hi, Will see of I have a note about the thinkpad model from the person who put it together for me before. I experience sight loss, so providing those details will take some digging. the situation is that I have no way to burn a cd for install, even though the thinkpad has one. My goal was to get boot images, save them to floppies on this machine, take the laptop and floppies to my office and get help doing the install. My only reason for considering freedos is the chance for on board use of the Ethernet setup. Will hunt for what I might have on the machine. On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Louis Santillan wrote: AFAICT, the FDNET package contains packet drivers for (16-bit?) NE2000 and PCnet ethernet cards. The crynwr package has several dozen other packet drivers. If we knew the exact Thinkpad model, we could advise you better. http://crynwr.com/drivers/00index.html WRT saving items to floppy, are you considering a hard drive install or booting from floppy only? On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 12:46???PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: meaning that packet drivers are included in packages, or that I will need to hunt them? also, is there a install copy that lets me save items to floppies? On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Rugxulo via Freedos-user wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:56???PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: My goal is supporting the built in Ethernet infrastructure on the thinkpad. My understanding, perhaps incorrect, is that freedos has networking infrastructure in the system itself? No, FreeDOS isn't special, it just uses pre-existing packet drivers (usually for old hardware). ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
AFAICT, the FDNET package contains packet drivers for (16-bit?) NE2000 and PCnet ethernet cards. The crynwr package has several dozen other packet drivers. If we knew the exact Thinkpad model, we could advise you better. http://crynwr.com/drivers/00index.html WRT saving items to floppy, are you considering a hard drive install or booting from floppy only? On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 12:46 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > meaning that packet drivers are included in packages, or that I will need > to hunt them? > also, is there a install copy that lets me save items to floppies? > > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Rugxulo via Freedos-user wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:56 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user > > wrote: > >> > >> My goal is supporting the built in Ethernet infrastructure on the > >> thinkpad. > >> My understanding, perhaps incorrect, is that freedos has networking > >> infrastructure in the system itself? > > > > No, FreeDOS isn't special, it just uses pre-existing packet drivers > > (usually for old hardware). > > > > > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > >___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
meaning that packet drivers are included in packages, or that I will need to hunt them? also, is there a install copy that lets me save items to floppies? On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Rugxulo via Freedos-user wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:56 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: My goal is supporting the built in Ethernet infrastructure on the thinkpad. My understanding, perhaps incorrect, is that freedos has networking infrastructure in the system itself? No, FreeDOS isn't special, it just uses pre-existing packet drivers (usually for old hardware). ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
Correct and it would help to know which machine you are choosing. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 11:02 AM Rugxulo via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:56 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user > wrote: > > > > My goal is supporting the built in Ethernet infrastructure on the > > thinkpad. > > My understanding, perhaps incorrect, is that freedos has networking > > infrastructure in the system itself? > > No, FreeDOS isn't special, it just uses pre-existing packet drivers > (usually for old hardware). > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
Hi, On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:56 PM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user wrote: > > My goal is supporting the built in Ethernet infrastructure on the > thinkpad. > My understanding, perhaps incorrect, is that freedos has networking > infrastructure in the system itself? No, FreeDOS isn't special, it just uses pre-existing packet drivers (usually for old hardware). ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
My goal is supporting the built in Ethernet infrastructure on the thinkpad. My understanding, perhaps incorrect, is that freedos has networking infrastructure in the system itself? On Tue, 18 Jul 2023, Louis Santillan wrote: Depends on the vintage of Thinkpad, but I wouldn't just assume a Thinkpad has a DOS compatible Ethernet card. I would verify. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 10:08???AM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: Hi folks, Due to some layered power issues in my new apartment, I am considering installing Freedos onto a laptop as a backup for my desktop computer. My main reason for considering this is the likelihood, given its an IBM Thinkpad, that Freedos networking should work for the onboard Ethernet setup. Meaning I will not need to find a different Ethernet card for this. Am I correct? Thanks, Karen ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Basic freedos question before I try this?
Depends on the vintage of Thinkpad, but I wouldn't just assume a Thinkpad has a DOS compatible Ethernet card. I would verify. On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 10:08 AM Karen Lewellen via Freedos-user < freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi folks, > Due to some layered power issues in my new apartment, I am considering > installing Freedos onto a laptop as a backup for my desktop computer. > My main reason for considering this is the likelihood, given its an IBM > Thinkpad, that Freedos networking should work for the onboard Ethernet > setup. Meaning I will not need to find a different Ethernet card for this. > Am I correct? > Thanks, > Karen > > > > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
