Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change
Or code it to assume compatibility unless explicitly told so by user. hmm , --chris http://nxdos.sourceforge.net/ Original Message Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change From: Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, April 18, 2007 5:55 pm To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Hi, The problem with the display is that on *any* (dosemu included) vga system there is a standard way to have 25,43 and 50 lines that is fast and relyable and BIOS compatible. It works very well in Windows 98 and XT dos boxes too. NDN has many video modes beyond those. I believe that there should be a version or an option for compatibility that stick to the basics... Alain Johnson Lam escreveu: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:28:17 -0300, you wrote: Hi, Yes, there is active development in NDN... That's good, it's a fine software. As for impouving it's display functions I can help, but only if somone can make a detailed howto of how to set up it's compile environment. Usualy this can take days which I don't have to spare, but I have some experience with PC's video. Specially on the compatibility issue. I need to try it on other PC, but I need some time, and I think mode detection should be carry out by an external utilities and write the result in a vmode.ini to let the main program use it without crashing anything. Have you contact the developer of Necromancer DOS Navigator? I want to test on other similar model PC, to make sure this is really a problem, rushing to report may not help.Rgds, Johnson. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:32:58 +0800, you wrote: Hi, For the NDN display mode problem, finally I found that after press SHIFT-F10 (NextVid) the 6th times, screen will have garbage characters on the right pane, continue to the 9th time will hang up whole PC, need to press ALT-CTRL-DEL. IBM NetVista Desktop CPU: Intel Pentium 4 -1.7GHz Chipset: Intel 845G Video: Intel 845G(L) Integrated / 320KB Appreciate Eric or anyone to improve Necromancer DOS Navigator. Thanks. Rgds, Johnson. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change
Have you contact the developer of Necromancer DOS Navigator? Bye Flo On 4/17/07, Johnson Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:32:58 +0800, you wrote: Hi, For the NDN display mode problem, finally I found that after press SHIFT-F10 (NextVid) the 6th times, screen will have garbage characters on the right pane, continue to the 9th time will hang up whole PC, need to press ALT-CTRL-DEL. IBM NetVista Desktop CPU: Intel Pentium 4 -1.7GHz Chipset: Intel 845G Video: Intel 845G(L) Integrated / 320KB Appreciate Eric or anyone to improve Necromancer DOS Navigator. Thanks. Rgds, Johnson. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Private Page, oZone GUI http://www.flox.at.tf Club Dr-DOS Wiki http://www.drdos.org Using Arachne, the GPL Web Browser/Suite - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:28:17 -0300, you wrote: Hi, Yes, there is active development in NDN... That's good, it's a fine software. As for impouving it's display functions I can help, but only if somone can make a detailed howto of how to set up it's compile environment. Usualy this can take days which I don't have to spare, but I have some experience with PC's video. Specially on the compatibility issue. I need to try it on other PC, but I need some time, and I think mode detection should be carry out by an external utilities and write the result in a vmode.ini to let the main program use it without crashing anything. Have you contact the developer of Necromancer DOS Navigator? I want to test on other similar model PC, to make sure this is really a problem, rushing to report may not help. Rgds, Johnson. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:05:40 +0200 (MEST), you wrote: Eric, Hi, as said, please test which of the modes reachable with MODE do work. As you did not tell which modes NDN is trying to use, and as I would not know how to find out easily, doing some tests with MODE first seems good. Thanks! Please wait for my test, I'm currently no access to that PC. A bit busy right now. I'm not sure what mode, because I keep using next function, after 2 or 3 clicks it reboot. Rgds, Johnson. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change
Does it change using regular dos commands? mode co80,50 mode co80,43 test without NDN loaded, because it has an option to restore it's own display configuration. Alain Johnson Lam escreveu: On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:28:00 +0200 (MEST), you wrote: Hi, In what way? There are TSRs to provide the 8x14 font which is misssing in some modern VGA BIOSes (to save space). You can do a lot with VESA VBE 2 already (VBE 1: no framebuffer, slow), so even in DOS, not many people will notice problems if no VBE 3 support is there. My NVIDIA 7800GT fail to change mode under NDN (other than 80x25), I have no idea and don't know how to make it work. I don't think that kind of high-end card can't do this kind of simple task, just don't know how to enable it. Rgds, Johnson. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Display Mode Change
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:56:12 +0200 (MEST), you wrote: Hi, My nVidia 7600 works okay in DOS, both with text mode and graphics mode, but maybe NDN wants some mode which is not supported. Please give more details, where do I download NDN and what do I do to reproduce the problem? Which modes did you try, and which of the modes reachable by our MODE command cause problems? Notice that MODE is not very smart and creative, so sometimes it cannot figure out how to go from one mode to another while you can still reach the mode if you select the right sequence of steps manually. Things like 80x60 80x30 and 132x25 VESA text modes should work without further ado, only the EGA/VGA/CGA decision is hard. The source code may have problem. Running NDN in a IBM NetVista (old P4), the mode change will cause the screen have garbage and reboot. They should code a mode detect program and use it's result for NDN. Rgds, Johnson. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
