[Freeipa-users] cross domain trust between two IPA servers

2012-08-07 Thread Johnathan Phan
Hi everyone,

Is it possible to create a cross domain trust between two IPA servers? I
would have thought FreeIPA would have dealt with this use case first rather
than jump directly into integrating with AD.

The reason for this is because your more likely to have satellite sites of
Redhat servers you want to manage.

Example of this is shown below.

You require user details to be separated for two separate organizations
that merge together. In the interim period or permanently you may want
members data to be stored in the two separate Realms for either legal
reasons or for company structure reasons (Management). As you do this quiet
freqently with Microsoft AD environments when corporations merge or buy one
another out. Or a parent company buys a smaller company but want to hook
the two systems together with out merging them completely to keep the
companies identity and major operations separate.

Is there anyway to do this with two IPA servers?

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Re: [Freeipa-users] cross domain trust between two IPA servers

2012-08-07 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 14:54 +0100, Johnathan Phan wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 Is it possible to create a cross domain trust between two IPA servers?
 I would have thought FreeIPA would have dealt with this use case first
 rather than jump directly into integrating with AD.

Not yet, the reason we dealt with AD first is that there was more
request for that use case.


 The reason for this is because your more likely to have satellite
 sites of Redhat servers you want to manage.
 
 Example of this is shown below.
 
 You require user details to be separated for two separate
 organizations that merge together. In the interim period or
 permanently you may want members data to be stored in the two separate
 Realms for either legal reasons or for company structure reasons
 (Management). As you do this quiet freqently with Microsoft AD
 environments when corporations merge or buy one another out. Or a
 parent company buys a smaller company but want to hook the two systems
 together with out merging them completely to keep the companies
 identity and major operations separate.
 
 Is there anyway to do this with two IPA servers?

We are planning to add FreeIPA-FreeIPA trusts in due course, and a
kerberos level trust between 2 IPA servers can be done with some manual
work, but there are some details when it comes to providing identity to
the other domain that are missing. (Although SSSD can be configured
easily enough to use 2 separate FreeIPA domains if really needed).

Simo.

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Re: [Freeipa-users] cross domain trust between two IPA servers

2012-08-07 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 16:36 +0100, Johnathan Phan wrote:
 Hi Simo,
 
 This document here implies that this does it.
 
 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Managing_Smart_Cards/Setting_Up_Cross_Realm_Authentication.html#basic-trust

This document do not apply to Identity Management (FreeIPA in RHEL
speak), it is for a classic Kerberos KDC.
However it is a resonable guide to experiment with trusts.

 However during testing it does not behave as expected.
 
 Do you have any documentation on how SSSD can be configured so that
 when logging in on a server in a.example.com with a users that exists
 in the IPA server responsible for domain b.example.com can happen.
 Only based on the rights the group has in b.example.com.
 
 any reference material on how that could work will help me a long way.

You should look into the fact SSSD can be defined to have multiple
domains.

This means tho that the 'receiving' machines need to be configured for
both realms.

This is one of the gotchas, given the current lack of actual
integration, moving forward when we will have official integration
manual configuration of a separate SSSD domain will not be necessary and
group memberships will work better.

Simo.

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