Re: Username/Host authorization

2013-06-25 Thread nicolas . clo


Hi,

Yes, this is our actual configuration and it works very well, but I think that 
with the long run, a
database that contains all MAC address can become very difficult to manage.
But if it' s the only solution, I will make with.

Thanks.



   
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Hi,

I'm now sure that the best way for us is MAC Address filtering.

thats a way of doing the 'host' part. the user can then be authenticated
by an EAP method.

ie authorization stage can check the calling-station-id (MAC address) and,
if not known, just reject. then, if known carry on to the user authentication
by 802.1X

as already said, you have to know what you want and the technologies available

alan
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Username/Host authorization

2013-06-24 Thread nicolas . clo


Hi list,


I'm searching the best way to configure an authorization based on both  Host + 
Username ( mschapv2
+ /usr/bin/ntlm_auth) but not Host or Username.

Is it possible to verify host with mschapv2 and if the module return ok proceed 
to username
verfication with the same module ?

Thanks for your reply.


   
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Re: Username/Host authorization

2013-06-24 Thread Phil Mayers

On 24/06/13 12:47, nicolas@ricoh-industrie.fr wrote:

Hi list,

I'm searching the best way to configure an authorization based on
both  Host + Username ( mschapv2 + /usr/bin/ntlm_auth) but not Host
*or* Username.

Is it possible to verify host with mschapv2 and if the module return
ok proceed to username verfication with the same module ?


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Re: Username/Host authorization

2013-06-24 Thread Alan DeKok
nicolas@ricoh-industrie.fr wrote:
   Is it possible to verify host with mschapv2

  That question has a number of unstated assumptions.  Those assumptions
are wrong.

  Does the *host* provide mschapv2 authentication data?  No.  Therefore,
the host can't be verified with mschapv2.

 and if the module
   return ok proceed to username verfication with the same module ?

  You're asking for mschapv2 to authenticate two different identities at
the same time.  It doesn't do that.

  What do you really want to do?  Your question assumes a particular
view of things.  That view is wrong, so we can't help you.

  If you describe what you have and what you want to do, we may be able
to come up with a different approach that meets your needs.

  Alan DeKok.

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Username/Host authorization

2013-06-24 Thread nicolas . clo

Thanks for your help.

We want two authorization in the same times, for example, to ensure that user 
not used his iPhone
with his DOMAIN/UserName account.
Mac Authorization is not a good way for us ( Too restrictive to keep up to date 
)
Authorization by certificat too because we have a lot of hosts which doesn't 
support that.


Nicolas CLO.


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nicolas@ricoh-industrie.fr wrote:
   Is it possible to verify host with mschapv2

  That question has a number of unstated assumptions.  Those assumptions
are wrong.

  Does the *host* provide mschapv2 authentication data?  No.  Therefore,
the host can't be verified with mschapv2.

 and if the module
   return ok proceed to username verfication with the same module ?

  You're asking for mschapv2 to authenticate two different identities at
the same time.  It doesn't do that.

  What do you really want to do?  Your question assumes a particular
view of things.  That view is wrong, so we can't help you.

  If you describe what you have and what you want to do, we may be able
to come up with a different approach that meets your needs.

  Alan DeKok.


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Re: Username/Host authorization

2013-06-24 Thread Alan DeKok
nicolas@ricoh-industrie.fr wrote:
 We want two authorization in the same times, for example, to ensure that
 user not used his iPhone with his DOMAIN/UserName account.

  That is fairly vague.  You're working with computers.  Be specific.

  WHAT is in an Access-Request when they login using a desktop?

  WHAT is in an Access-Request when they login using their phone?

  HOW are the two requests different?

  Once you know that, it should be easy to create rules which can
distinguish one from the other.  And then apply different rules to each one.

 Mac Authorization is not a good way for us ( Too restrictive to keep up
 to date )
 Authorization by certificat too because we have a lot of hosts which
 doesn't support that.

  You're limited by what is in the Access-Request.  If the only
difference between a desktop and iPhone is a MAC address, too bad.
Computers aren't magic.

  My guess is that the only thing which will really work is MAC address
filtering.  I'd suggest finding a way to make it manageable.

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Re: Username/Host authorization

2013-06-24 Thread Phil Mayers

On 24/06/13 14:09, nicolas@ricoh-industrie.fr wrote:

Thanks for your help.

We want two authorization in the same times, for example, to ensure that
user not used his iPhone with his DOMAIN/UserName account.


Sorry, but that's not currently possible. No EAP method supports it. In 
theory EAP-TEAP might, but that's too new, and it's not clear if clients 
would support 1 auth anyway.

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Username/Host authorization

2013-06-24 Thread nicolas . clo
Ok thanks for the reply.
I'm now sure that the best way for us is MAC Address filtering.

Have a good day.

Nicolas CLO


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nicolas@ricoh-industrie.fr wrote:
 We want two authorization in the same times, for example, to ensure that
 user not used his iPhone with his DOMAIN/UserName account.

  That is fairly vague.  You're working with computers.  Be specific.

  WHAT is in an Access-Request when they login using a desktop?

  WHAT is in an Access-Request when they login using their phone?

  HOW are the two requests different?

  Once you know that, it should be easy to create rules which can
distinguish one from the other.  And then apply different rules to each one.

 Mac Authorization is not a good way for us ( Too restrictive to keep up
 to date )
 Authorization by certificat too because we have a lot of hosts which
 doesn't support that.

  You're limited by what is in the Access-Request.  If the only
difference between a desktop and iPhone is a MAC address, too bad.
Computers aren't magic.

  My guess is that the only thing which will really work is MAC address
filtering.  I'd suggest finding a way to make it manageable.

  Alan DeKok.
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Re: Username/Host authorization

2013-06-24 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,

I'm now sure that the best way for us is MAC Address filtering.

thats a way of doing the 'host' part. the user can then be authenticated
by an EAP method.  

ie authorization stage can check the calling-station-id (MAC address) and,
if not known, just reject. then, if known carry on to the user authentication
by 802.1X

as already said, you have to know what you want and the technologies available

alan
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