RE: alan's book, or anything new on the horizon
I have been following you since three years and I trust you, so I will buy your book. Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:03:52 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org Subject: Re: alan's book, or anything new on the horizon Duane Cox wrote: I wonder if Alan ever released that book that he had talked about in 2006? Or did it become a collection of wiki pages? I'm up to 180 pages. There's more content than the O'Reilly book, by a long shot. However, I moved countries in 2007, and various factors meant I couldn't spend much time on the book. I've recently been doing 10 pages a week, so I hope to finish it eventually. Now that 2.0 is out, I'm hoping to feel less guilty about that, and more guilty about the book. Is anyone working on a second revision to Hassell's O'Reilly RADIUS? O'Reilly won't be issuing one. The books sales were high for the first few weeks, and dropped off quickly after that. Everyone figured out that it's pretty much content-free. i.e. one well known O'Reilly author described it to me as The worse book that O'Reilly has published. I've talked with them, too. They're not interested in a second edition, and they're not interested in a FreeRADIUS book. Any other publisher I've talked to projects small amounts of money in sales, so they're not interested either. So... I'm going to self-publish. I think there's enough money to make it worth my time. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html _ Tecnología, moda, motor, viajes,…suscríbete a nuestros boletines para estar siempre a la última Guapos y guapas, clips musicales y estrenos de cine. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: alan's book, or anything new on the horizon
then dont keep it under 400. more info is better. ( and real examples too ) thanx. On 16/01/2008, Alan DeKok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: orion wrote: alan , can we have the TOC of the book ? It's still in development, and I'm re-arranging it occasionally. At a high level: Introduction Concepts Participants and their roles User Devices NAS RADIUS Servers Databases AAA Overview Authentication Authorization Accounting Auditing Conversations Protocol overview Message contents Dictionaries Security Participants in more detail User devices NAS RADIUS Servers Databases Authentication The basics PAP CHAP MS-CHAP Digest Managing passwords hashes protocol compatibility EAP EAP-GTC EAP-MD5 EAP-MSCHAPv2 LEAP EAP and password storage EAP-TLS Methods EAP-TLS Microsoft Windows requirements PEAP EAP-TTLS Wireless and wired security with EAP Other authentication protocols Authorizations Principles for policy creating Logging Role-based authorization Policy maintenance Chained policies Examples Accounting Interaction with authorization Generation of data Logging of data Relaying of packets Simultaneous-Use RADIUS Server implementations ACS OAS Juniper OCS Radiator FreeRADIUS Others Recommendations - And now we get into FreeRADIUS-specific text. :) Basic deployments Installing FreeRADIUS Configuration files radiusd.conf clients.conf proxy.conf virtual servers Starting the server Debugging Tracking configuration changes Test methodology radiusd.conf Layout Processing of requests authentication accounting proxying Modules Multiple instances of a module Redundant and load-balanced modules simple flow control unlang Introduction Interaction with modules Examples clients.conf proxy.conf virtual servers users file format sample entries Dictionaries ATTRIBUTE definitions VALUE definitions VENDOR definitions Loading other dictionary files Creating a dictionary file Special considerations Debugging a deployment Tools Test methods and procedures EAP testing with eapol_test Databases LDAP Active Directory considerations SQL MySQL Postgresql Common deployment issues Windows AP implementations RADIUS Servers LDAP Servers Security Network security Physical security Configuration security Methods for policy creation RADIUS protocol reference Attributes Data types VSA's Packet types Module overview rlm_chap rlm_digest ... If you've read this far, I'm impressed. With each topic on a single line like that, it starts to look silly after a while. The intent, though, is to be the *definitive* reference for not only FreeRADIUS, but also for the protocol, and common use cases. Where other books say things like Access-Request packets contain requests for access, this one says that, and more. Like common problems people see, common mistakes vendors make, common misunderstandings and how to correct them, and how to work around various issues in practice. I'm going to try to keep it under 400 pages, but I do think there's enough material to make 400 pages. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: alan's book, or anything new on the horizon
orion wrote: then dont keep it under 400. more info is better. ( and real examples too ) It's a lot of typing, and a lot of copy-editing. The main issue with examples is that adding NAS examples is almost impossible. There are dozens of manufacturers, and hundreds of possible configurations. Adding *FreeRADIUS* examples is easy. But knowing *which* examples are useful to a reader is hard. The best approach I've seen that works is to cover the concepts, and to document the oddities and things that confuse most people. Add a few simple examples to that, and the book is quickly up to 400 pages. i.e. no complex examples, but the tools to figure it out on your own. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: alan's book, or anything new on the horizon
Hi Alan, I am curious about your book. When will it be available? Will it be sold at Amazon or other online store? Thanks! On Jan 16, 2008 9:23 PM, Alan DeKok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: orion wrote: then dont keep it under 400. more info is better. ( and real examples too ) It's a lot of typing, and a lot of copy-editing. The main issue with examples is that adding NAS examples is almost impossible. There are dozens of manufacturers, and hundreds of possible configurations. Adding *FreeRADIUS* examples is easy. But knowing *which* examples are useful to a reader is hard. The best approach I've seen that works is to cover the concepts, and to document the oddities and things that confuse most people. Add a few simple examples to that, and the book is quickly up to 400 pages. i.e. no complex examples, but the tools to figure it out on your own. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: alan's book, or anything new on the horizon
orion wrote: alan , can we have the TOC of the book ? It's still in development, and I'm re-arranging it occasionally. At a high level: Introduction Concepts Participants and their roles User Devices NAS RADIUS Servers Databases AAA Overview Authentication Authorization Accounting Auditing Conversations Protocol overview Message contents Dictionaries Security Participants in more detail User devices NAS RADIUS Servers Databases Authentication The basics PAP CHAP MS-CHAP Digest Managing passwords hashes protocol compatibility EAP EAP-GTC EAP-MD5 EAP-MSCHAPv2 LEAP EAP and password storage EAP-TLS Methods EAP-TLS Microsoft Windows requirements PEAP EAP-TTLS Wireless and wired security with EAP Other authentication protocols Authorizations Principles for policy creating Logging Role-based authorization Policy maintenance Chained policies Examples Accounting Interaction with authorization Generation of data Logging of data Relaying of packets Simultaneous-Use RADIUS Server implementations ACS OAS Juniper OCS Radiator FreeRADIUS Others Recommendations - And now we get into FreeRADIUS-specific text. :) Basic deployments Installing FreeRADIUS Configuration files radiusd.conf clients.conf proxy.conf virtual servers Starting the server Debugging Tracking configuration changes Test methodology radiusd.conf Layout Processing of requests authentication accounting proxying Modules Multiple instances of a module Redundant and load-balanced modules simple flow control unlang Introduction Interaction with modules Examples clients.conf proxy.conf virtual servers users file format sample entries Dictionaries ATTRIBUTE definitions VALUE definitions VENDOR definitions Loading other dictionary files Creating a dictionary file Special considerations Debugging a deployment Tools Test methods and procedures EAP testing with eapol_test Databases LDAP Active Directory considerations SQL MySQL Postgresql Common deployment issues Windows AP implementations RADIUS Servers LDAP Servers Security Network security Physical security Configuration security Methods for policy creation RADIUS protocol reference Attributes Data types VSA's Packet types Module overview rlm_chap rlm_digest ... If you've read this far, I'm impressed. With each topic on a single line like that, it starts to look silly after a while. The intent, though, is to be the *definitive* reference for not only FreeRADIUS, but also for the protocol, and common use cases. Where other books say things like Access-Request packets contain requests for access, this one says that, and more. Like common problems people see, common mistakes vendors make, common misunderstandings and how to correct them, and how to work around various issues in practice. I'm going to try to keep it under 400 pages, but I do think there's enough material to make 400 pages. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
alan's book, or anything new on the horizon
Hello I wonder if Alan ever released that book that he had talked about in 2006? Or did it become a collection of wiki pages? Is anyone working on a second revision to Hassell's O'Reilly RADIUS? Duane Cox - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
Re: alan's book, or anything new on the horizon
Duane Cox wrote: I wonder if Alan ever released that book that he had talked about in 2006? Or did it become a collection of wiki pages? I'm up to 180 pages. There's more content than the O'Reilly book, by a long shot. However, I moved countries in 2007, and various factors meant I couldn't spend much time on the book. I've recently been doing 10 pages a week, so I hope to finish it eventually. Now that 2.0 is out, I'm hoping to feel less guilty about that, and more guilty about the book. Is anyone working on a second revision to Hassell's O'Reilly RADIUS? O'Reilly won't be issuing one. The books sales were high for the first few weeks, and dropped off quickly after that. Everyone figured out that it's pretty much content-free. i.e. one well known O'Reilly author described it to me as The worse book that O'Reilly has published. I've talked with them, too. They're not interested in a second edition, and they're not interested in a FreeRADIUS book. Any other publisher I've talked to projects small amounts of money in sales, so they're not interested either. So... I'm going to self-publish. I think there's enough money to make it worth my time. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
