Re: github wiki

2010-06-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:32:23AM +0200, Alan DeKok wrote:
   2-3 years ago the Wiki started being over-whelmed with spammers.  The
 spam detection in MediaWiki didn't help, so the simplest solution was to
 make the Wiki request only for signups.

I think it might be useful if we had an automated method of requesting
an account. With a modern captcha system so that spambots don't inundate
the queue.

Fortunately it looks like something like that already exists nowadays:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount

Can you add that please? It would probably help revive the wiki a bit.

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Re: github wiki

2010-06-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:09:40PM +0300, Peter Nixon wrote:
 On Fri 28 May 2010, Josip Rodin wrote:
  On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:00:48PM +0200, Alan DeKok wrote:
 Thanks, but we already *have* a Wiki.  I would really prefer to not
   
   add yet *another* location for documentation.
   
 Yes... the existing Wiki has a number of out-of-date pages.
  
  I will, annoyingly enough :) again use this as an opportunity to ask for
  an account on the wiki in order to be able to help fixing these.
  
  (It's uncommon to call a mediawiki installation a wiki and have a
  strict policy of forbidding volunteers from editing, even known ones.)
 
 Just for everyone's info, we have solved my slackness in creating wiki 
 accounts for newcommers by making Josip the new Wiki admin :-)

Yes. Let me use this opportunity to publicly thank you for that unexpectedly
kind act :)

But right now I'm not a solution, just a workaround - I too will eventually
get tired and lag, because the account addition process is still tedious
administrivia. Please do check out that extension I've mentioned - that
could actually become a solution :)

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Re: github wiki

2010-06-10 Thread Peter Nixon
On Fri 28 May 2010, Josip Rodin wrote:
 On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:00:48PM +0200, Alan DeKok wrote:
Thanks, but we already *have* a Wiki.  I would really prefer to not
  
  add yet *another* location for documentation.
  
Yes... the existing Wiki has a number of out-of-date pages.
 
 I will, annoyingly enough :) again use this as an opportunity to ask for
 an account on the wiki in order to be able to help fixing these.
 
 (It's uncommon to call a mediawiki installation a wiki and have a
 strict policy of forbidding volunteers from editing, even known ones.)

Just for everyone's info, we have solved my slackness in creating wiki 
accounts for newcommers by making Josip the new Wiki admin :-)

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Re: github wiki

2010-05-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 06:00:48PM +0200, Alan DeKok wrote:
   Thanks, but we already *have* a Wiki.  I would really prefer to not
 add yet *another* location for documentation.
 
   Yes... the existing Wiki has a number of out-of-date pages.

I will, annoyingly enough :) again use this as an opportunity to ask for
an account on the wiki in order to be able to help fixing these.

(It's uncommon to call a mediawiki installation a wiki and have a
strict policy of forbidding volunteers from editing, even known ones.)

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Re: github wiki

2010-05-28 Thread Alan DeKok
Josip Rodin wrote:
 I will, annoyingly enough :) again use this as an opportunity to ask for
 an account on the wiki in order to be able to help fixing these.

  Done.

 (It's uncommon to call a mediawiki installation a wiki and have a
 strict policy of forbidding volunteers from editing, even known ones.)

  2-3 years ago the Wiki started being over-whelmed with spammers.  The
spam detection in MediaWiki didn't help, so the simplest solution was to
make the Wiki request only for signups.

  Alan DeKok.

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github wiki

2010-05-27 Thread Robert Wilkinson
Hello Alan,
I want to thank you for your services.  Not just for myself but for
everyone that you assisted over the years it seems. You are a tireless
soldier. I have visited github made some notes on the Wiki there. I am
dedicated to streamlining the process of installing FR.
The present system of passing information and knowledge can be daunting
to new users. I nearly gave up myself due the sheer amount of old and
misleading sources that exist. 
By writing guides and docs I intend to learn more about FR and hopefully
the community will benefit by having a greater number of users that will
in turn help others along. 
I would like to thank the two Alans for your fine work.
Please  contact me if there are any additional matters that you think
might be useful in increasing the knowledge base.

Kind Regards,
Robert Wilkinson

ps I still have a few issues with sql but I am certainly going in the
right direction now. I have now spent 5 days and I have been worn
out.   

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Re: github wiki

2010-05-27 Thread Alan DeKok
Robert Wilkinson wrote:
 I want to thank you for your services.  Not just for myself but for
 everyone that you assisted over the years it seems. You are a tireless
 soldier. I have visited github made some notes on the Wiki there. I am
 dedicated to streamlining the process of installing FR.

  Thanks, but we already *have* a Wiki.  I would really prefer to not
add yet *another* location for documentation.

 The present system of passing information and knowledge can be daunting
 to new users. I nearly gave up myself due the sheer amount of old and
 misleading sources that exist. 

  Yes... the existing Wiki has a number of out-of-date pages.  However,
the documentation that *comes with the server* is largely up to date.

 ps I still have a few issues with sql but I am certainly going in the
 right direction now. I have now spent 5 days and I have been worn
 out.   

  Can you say which documentation you were reading, and why it was unclear?

  We can't improve the existing documentation until we know what is
wrong with it.  There have been many complaints about bad documentation,
which usually are because the person is reading 4 year-old guides on
third party web sites.

  *Please* read the documentation that comes with the server.  All of
the configuration files are *extensively* commented.

  Alan DeKok.
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