Re: [Freesurfer] segmentation problem.

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Fischl
Can you try it without the expert opts? And what sequence is the data?



On Nov 12, 2012, at 3:35 AM, youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 I'm working with some images, and freesurfer didn't properly detect some of 
 their white matter boundaries.
 I attached some examples.
 I ran recon2 with expert options(-b 20 -n 5).
 As you can see, they have inaccurate white matter boundaries in curved area.
 I think it's not that highly curved, though.
 Any comment will be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Youngmin Huh
 
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[Freesurfer] volume conversion problem

2012-11-12 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
Dear FS experts, I'm trying to convert one skull-stripped image from the FS segmentation to a nifti in native space, but I'm having some troubles with it.I'm doing everything with the a to d stepsa) cd /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/s00x/mri/b) mri_vol2vol --interp nearest --mov brain.mgz --targ rawavg.mgz --out brain2raw.mgz --regheaderc) mri_mask -T 2 rawavg.mgz brain2raw.mgz brainraw.mgzd) mri_convert -odt float brainraw.mgz brain.niibut in step b always get the following error:mri_vol2vol --interp nearest --mov brain.mgz --targ rawavg.mgz --out brain2raw.mgz --regheadermovvol brain.mgztargvol rawavg.mgzoutvol brain2raw.mgzinvert 0tal    0talres 2regheader 1noresample 0interp  nearest (0)precision  float (3)Gdiag_no  -1Synth  0SynthSeed  1352942991MRIalloc: could not allocate -512234304 frameCannot allocate memoryAny ideas how to solve this?Should I to re-run any recon?Many thanks in advanced,Gabriel
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Re: [Freesurfer] pre-processing functional data error

2012-11-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
/Run this command line instead
mri_convert.linux I0001.dcm s105.run1.nii/
doug

On 11/09/2012 01:57 PM, Yangmei LUO wrote:
 Hi  Dr, Douglas,

 I attached the capture of the result using fslview.

 Thanks very much!

 Yangmei

 On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Yangmei LUO yangmei...@gmail.com 
 mailto:yangmei...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Dr.Douglas,

 Thanks very much for your patient help. MRI_convert can work. It
 is great. However, there was another problem about the convert.
 The results of the convert is unknown file and there is a warning.
 Could you help me again?

 This the command :
 //usr/local/freesurfer/bin/mri_convert.linux --in_type dicom
 --out_type nii I0001.dcm s105.run1.nii/

 The result is:

 //usr/local/freesurfer/bin/mri_convert.linux --in_type dicom
 --out_type nii I0001.dcm s105.run1.nii
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.196 2012/07/11 17:50:50 fischl Exp $
 reading from I0001.dcm...
 Starting DICOMRead2()
 dcmfile = /home/fsl/data/emotion/s105/run1/I0001.dcm
 dcmdir = /home/fsl/data/emotion/s105/run1
 Ref Series No = 3
 Found 231 files, checking for dicoms
 Found 228 dicom files in series.
 First Sorting
 Computing Slice Direction


  WARNING: it appears that the image position for all slices is the
 same.
  This is a problem with the DICOM file. Using direction cosines
 from col and row
  to compute slice direction, but the output may be misoriented.

 Vs: 0 -0.0104718 0.45
 Vs: 0 -0.0104718 0.45
 Second Sorting
 Counting frames
 nframes = 228
 nslices = 1
 ndcmfiles = 228
 PE Dir = COL (dicom read)
 TransferSyntaxUID: --1.2.840.10008.1.2--
 Loading pixel data
 TR=2000.00, TE=30.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=90.00
 i_ras = (-1, -0, 0)
 j_ras = (-0, -0.45, 0.0104718)
 k_ras = (-0, 0.0104718, 0.45)
 writing to s105.run1.nii.../


 Thank you so much!

 Best regards,
 Yangmei





 On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Douglas N Greve
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 run these two lines then try again
 chmod a+x mri_convert
 reshash.


 On 11/09/2012 01:04 PM, Yangmei LUO wrote:

 Hi Dr. Douglas,

 Thanks for your kind help. The version of freesurfer is
 stable v5.1.0 on CentOS 4 (32b). When I download the
 updated version you provided and switch the file in the
 bin( I do not know what I did is correct). When I run the
 command, the terminal appeared permission denied.

 What can I do next?

 Thanks so much!

 Best,
 Yangmei




 On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Douglas N Greve
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 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 The name is not important. I was able to convert all
 of those
 files without a problem. What version are you using?
 Maybe try an
 updated version of mri_convert
 
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/mri_convert.linux

 Also, please remember to include previous
 correspondences in your
 email to me. I always delete the emails once I answer
 them.
 thanks
 doug



 On 11/09/2012 12:19 PM, Yangmei LUO wrote:


 Hi Douglas,

 Thank you for your help. I change the name of the
 dicom file
 in order to process conveniently. So, I attached
 two files of
 with origin name and two files with the changed
 name. I wish
 it could help you figure out the problem.


 Thanks a million!


 Best,


 Yangmei


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Re: [Freesurfer] volume conversion problem

2012-11-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
Can you send the result of
mri_info brain.mgz
mri_info rawavg.mgz
doug

On 11/12/2012 10:27 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
 Dear FS experts,

 I'm trying to convert one skull-stripped image from the FS 
 segmentation to a nifti in native space, but I'm having some troubles 
 with it.

 I'm doing everything with the a to d steps
 a) cd /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/s00x/mri/
 b) mri_vol2vol --interp nearest --mov brain.mgz --targ rawavg.mgz 
 --out brain2raw.mgz --regheader
 c) mri_mask -T 2 rawavg.mgz brain2raw.mgz brainraw.mgz
 d) mri_convert -odt float brainraw.mgz brain.nii


 but in step b always get the following error:

 mri_vol2vol --interp nearest --mov brain.mgz --targ rawavg.mgz --out 
 brain2raw.mgz --regheader
 movvol brain.mgz
 targvol rawavg.mgz
 outvol brain2raw.mgz
 invert 0
 tal0
 talres 2
 regheader 1
 noresample 0
 interp  nearest (0)
 precision  float (3)
 Gdiag_no  -1
 Synth  0
 SynthSeed  1352942991
 MRIalloc: could not allocate -512234304 frame

 Cannot allocate memory





 Any ideas how to solve this?
 Should I to re-run any recon?


 Many thanks in advanced,
 Gabriel


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Re: [Freesurfer] pre-processing functional data error

2012-11-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
sorry, remove the slash from the end of the line

On 11/12/2012 10:49 AM, Yangmei LUO wrote:
 Hi Douglas,

 Thank you for your kind help. The command still can not work.

 $ /usr/local/freesurfer/bin/mri_convert.linux I0001.dcm s105.run1.nii/

 /usr/local/freesurfer/bin/mri_convert.linux I0001.dcm s105.run1.nii/
 mri_convert.linux: can't determine type of output volume
 ind = 86581; % bad
 Ct0 = y(:,ind+1);
 %Ct0 = load('tcp.dat');
 intCt0 = cumtrapz(t0,Ct0);

 HalfLifeMin = 20.4; %min
 TDecayMin = -HalfLifeMin/log(.5);
 TDecaySec = TDecayMin*60;
 intDecay = t0.*exp(-t0/TDecayMin);
 w = sqrt(intDecay/sum(intDecay));
 W = diag(w);


 X0 = [Cr0 intCr0 -intCt0];
 X = W*X0;
 WCt = W*Ct0;
 beta = inv(X'*X)*X'*WCt;
 R1 = beta(1);
 k2 = beta(2);
 k2a = beta(3);
 BPnd0 = k2/k2a -1;
 CtHatSRTM = X0*beta;

 psrtm0 = max([R1 k2 k2a],0) + eps;
 if(BPnd0  7 | BPnd0  0) psrtm0(3) = abs(k2)/(6+1); end
 psrtm = fminsearch('srtm_err',psrtm0,[],Ct0,t0,Cr0,w);
 [err CtHatsrtm] = srtm_err(psrtm,Ct0,t0,Cr0,w);
 BPndNL = psrtm(2)/psrtm(3)-1;

 k3Init = .35;
 paramsInit = [beta(1) abs(beta(2)) k3Init k3Init/abs(BPnd0)];
 paramsInit = [beta(1) .066 0.3 0.06];
 params = fminsearch('frtm_err',paramsInit,[],Ct0,t0,Cr0,w);
 [err CtHat] = frtm_err(params,Ct0,t0,Cr0,w);
 BPndF = params(3)/params(4);
 k2aF = params(2)/(1+BPndF);
 betaF = [params(1:2) k2aF]';
 yhatF = X0*betaF;

 plot(t0,Ct0,t0,CtHat,t0,CtHatSRTM,t0,CtHatsrtm);
 legend('Data','FRTM','SRTM','NL-SRTM')



 when I typed the type of  the output  volume, there were some errors.

 /usr/local/freesurfer/bin/mri_convert.linux --out_type nii I0001.dcm 
 s105.run1.nii/
 /usr/local/freesurfer/bin/mri_convert.linux --out_type nii I0001.dcm 
 s105.run1.nii/
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.196 2012/07/11 17:50:50 fischl Exp $
 reading from I0001.dcm...
 Getting Series No
 Scanning Directory
 INFO: Found 230 files in /home/fsl/data/emotion/s105/run1
 INFO: Scanning for Series Number 3
 INFO: found 228 files in series
 INFO: loading series header info.

 INFO: sorting.
 RunNo = 2
 INFO: ( 64  64  32), nframes = 228, ismosaic=1
 Could not parse NUMARIS version string syngo MR B17
 found in dicom tag 18,1020 (len = 3 != 6)
 Repetition Time = 2000, TR = 2000 ms
 PE Dir COL COL
 AutoAlign matrix detected
 AutoAlign Matrix -
  1.000   0.000   0.000   0.000;
  0.000   1.000   0.000   0.000;
  0.000   0.000   1.000   0.000;
  0.000   0.000   0.000   1.000;

 FileName /home/fsl/data/emotion/s105/run1/I0001.dcm
 Identification
 NumarisVersyngo MR B17
 ScannerModel  TrioTim
 PatientName   LuoYangmei_s5^caoguoguo
 Date and time
 StudyDate 20121009
 StudyTime 084434.968000
 SeriesTime090357.64
 AcqTime   090309.732500
 Acquisition parameters
 PulseSeq  *epfid2d1_64
 Protocol  run1
 PhEncDir  COL
 EchoNo1
 FlipAngle 90
 EchoTime  30
 InversionTime -1
 RepetitionTime2000
 PhEncFOV  192
 ReadoutFOV192
 Image information
 RunNo 2
 SeriesNo  3
 ImageNo   1
 NImageRows384
 NImageCols384
 NFrames   228
 SliceArraylSize   32
 IsMosaic  1
 ImgPos 99.3735 107.4917 -33.8349
 VolRes  3.   3.   3.9900
 VolDim 64   64   32
 Vc -1.  -0.   0.
 Vr -0.  -0.   0.0105
 Vs -0.   0.0105   0.
 VolCenter   3.3735  12.1655  31.0069
 TransferSyntaxUID 1.2.840.10008.1.2
 UseSliceScaleFactor 0 (slice 0: 1)
 sagrev = 0, correv =1, trarev = 1
 Vs = -0 0.0104718 0.45
 INFO: detected a Siemens slice order reversal in mosaic, so
   I'm going to reverse them back to their 'original' order.
 TR=2000.00, TE=30.00, TI=-1.00, flip angle=90.00
 i_ras = (-1, -0, 0)
 j_ras = (-0, -0.45, 0.0104718)
 k_ras = (-0, 0.0104718, 0.45)
 writing to s105.run1.nii/...
 niiWrite(): error opening file s105.run1.nii/
 ERROR: failure writing s105.run1.nii/ as volume type 24





 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Douglas N Greve 
 gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

 /Run this command line instead
 mri_convert.linux I0001.dcm s105.run1.nii/
 doug

 On 11/09/2012 01:57 PM, Yangmei LUO wrote:

 Hi  Dr, Douglas,


 I attached the capture of the result using fslview.

 Thanks very much!

 Yangmei

 On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Yangmei LUO
 yangmei...@gmail.com mailto:yangmei...@gmail.com
 mailto:yangmei...@gmail.com mailto:yangmei...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Dr.Douglas,

 Thanks very much for your patient help. MRI_convert can
 work. It
 is great. However, there was another problem about the
 convert.

[Freesurfer] The mismatched color in the tksurfer color bar for surface file

2012-11-12 Thread Longchuan Li


Hi, Doug and other FreeSurfer experts:

I noticed that the color in a surface file I generated (*.mgh with the values 
ranging from 0 to 1) does not match that in the color bar. For example, the 
lowest value in the surface file has much darker red hue than the lowest values 
in the color bar (bright red). Is there any remedy for this mismatch? Also, I 
intended to attach an image in the email, but was told that the email contains 
blocked images. 


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Re: [Freesurfer] volume conversion problem

2012-11-12 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
Here yu are:mri_info brain.mgzVolume information for brain.mgz  type: MGH    dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256   voxel sizes: 1., 1., 1.  type: UCHAR (0)   fov: 256.000   dof: 0    xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0    ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0    zstart: -128.0, zend: 128.0    TR: 11.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 degrees   nframes: 1   PhEncDir: UNKNOWNras xform present    xform info: x_r =  -1., y_r =  -0., z_r =   0., c_r = 2.1879  : x_a =  -0., y_a =   0., z_a =   1., c_a =    11.6591  : x_s =  -0., y_s =  -1., z_s =  -0., c_s =   -17.2780talairach xfm :Orientation   : LIAPrimary Slice Direction: coronalvoxel to ras transform:   -1.  -0.   0.   130.1879   -0.   0.   1.  -116.3409   -0.  -1.  -0.   110.7220    0.   0.   0. 1.voxel-to-ras determinant -1ras to voxel transform:   -1.   0.   0.   130.1879    0.  -0.  -1.   110.7220   -0.   1.  -0.   116.3409    0.   0.   0. 1.mri_info rawavg.mgzMRIalloc: could not allocate -512234304 frameCannot allocate memoryAs I see, the problem comes from the rawavg.mgz, if I do convert the dicoms into mgz, would this solve the problem, right? or there's anything else I can do?Regards,GabrielEl 12/11/12, Douglas N Greve  gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu escribió:Can you send the result ofmri_info brain.mgzmri_info rawavg.mgzdougOn 11/12/2012 10:27 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote: Dear FS experts, I'm trying to convert one skull-stripped image from the FS  segmentation to a nifti in native space, but I'm having some troubles  with it. I'm doing everything with the a to d steps a) cd /root/trabajo/freesurfer/subjects/s00x/mri/ b) mri_vol2vol --interp nearest --mov brain.mgz --targ rawavg.mgz  --out brain2raw.mgz --regheader c) mri_mask -T 2 rawavg.mgz brain2raw.mgz brainraw.mgz d) mri_convert -odt float brainraw.mgz brain.nii but in step b always get the following error: mri_vol2vol --interp nearest --mov brain.mgz --targ rawavg.mgz --out  brain2raw.mgz --regheader movvol brain.mgz targvol rawavg.mgz outvol brain2raw.mgz invert 0 tal    0 talres 2 regheader 1 noresample 0 interp  nearest (0) precision  float (3) Gdiag_no  -1 Synth  0 SynthSeed  1352942991 MRIalloc: could not allocate -512234304 frame Cannot allocate memory Any ideas how to solve this? Should I to re-run any recon? Many thanks in advanced, Gabriel ___ Freesurfer mailing list Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurfer-- Douglas N. Greve, Ph.D.MGH-NMR Centergr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduPhone Number: 617-724-2358Fax: 617-726-7422Bugs: surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReportingFileDrop: www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html___Freesurfer mailing listFreesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduhttps://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/mailman/listinfo/freesurferThe information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it isaddressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mailcontains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine athttp://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in errorbut does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properlydispose of the e-mail.
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Re: [Freesurfer] segmentation problem.

2012-11-12 Thread youngmin huh
Thanks.
I'll try without expert opts.
But i'm not sure if i can get better results.
Before I found out these expert opts, I ran some images recon2 without
expert opts. And they got poor segmentation.
Actually, some images showed improvement with those options.
I'm curious why these options work for some images and don't for others.
And, 3D SPGR sequences were used. (TR=22, TE=4, thickness=1.4, FOV=240*240,
FA=40)


2012/11/12 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 Can you try it without the expert opts? And what sequence is the data?



 On Nov 12, 2012, at 3:35 AM, youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi
  I'm working with some images, and freesurfer didn't properly detect some
 of their white matter boundaries.
  I attached some examples.
  I ran recon2 with expert options(-b 20 -n 5).
  As you can see, they have inaccurate white matter boundaries in curved
 area.
  I think it's not that highly curved, though.
  Any comment will be appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Youngmin Huh
 
  image.jpegimage.jpeg
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Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

2012-11-12 Thread youngmin huh
Hi,
3D SPGR sequences were used. (TR=22, TE=4, thickness=1.4, FOV=240*240,
FA=40)
If the artifacts are due to B0 distortion, I wonder how I can fix it.

Thanks,
Youngmin Huh



2012/11/12 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu

 Can you give us the acquisition details? I suspect this is not noise, but
 rather B0 distortion.
 what is the acquisition? And what bandwidth?


 On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:53 AM, youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear all,
 
  I'm working with some images, and they have so much noises on temporal
 areas.
  I just ran recon2, but not sure if they'll be segmented properly.
  Does anyone have a recommendation for dealing with it?
  I wonder if there is any flag or option for this occasion.
  I would appreciate any comments or help.
  I attached an example.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Youngmin Huh
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Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

2012-11-12 Thread Matt Glasser
Are you using a 32-channel coil?  It looks like B1- receive field
inhomogeneity to me.

Peace,

Matt.

From:  youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com
Date:  Monday, November 12, 2012 10:22 PM
To:  Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu,
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject:  Re: [Freesurfer] bad acquisition and noise problem.

Hi,
3D SPGR sequences were used. (TR=22, TE=4, thickness=1.4, FOV=240*240,
FA=40)
If the artifacts are due to B0 distortion, I wonder how I can fix it.

Thanks,
Youngmin Huh



2012/11/12 Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Can you give us the acquisition details? I suspect this is not noise, but
 rather B0 distortion.
 what is the acquisition? And what bandwidth?
 
 
 On Nov 8, 2012, at 2:53 AM, youngmin huh ymin1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear all,
 
  I'm working with some images, and they have so much noises on temporal
 areas.
  I just ran recon2, but not sure if they'll be segmented properly.
  Does anyone have a recommendation for dealing with it?
  I wonder if there is any flag or option for this occasion.
  I would appreciate any comments or help.
  I attached an example.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Youngmin Huh
  temporal_001.jpg
 
 
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