Re: [ft-devel] What and where are the fonts that require the unpatented hinter ?

2006-08-29 Thread mpsuzuki
Hi,

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:30:21 +0200 (CEST)
Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a solution, I suggest that we add a function to FreeType which
registers such font names.  David?

A question from curious: blacklisting by font name
is usable for embedded fonts in PDF?

Regards,
mpsuzuki


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Re: [ft-devel] What and where are the fonts that require the unpatented hinter ?

2006-08-28 Thread mpsuzuki
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 09:33:59 +0200 (CEST)
Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could anyone remind me what these fonts are, and where I could find
 them for analysis and testing ? I believe that nearly all of them
 were designed by DynaLabs, but I'm a bit unsure about that.

mingli.ttf is one of them (*not* mingliu.ttc).  Antoine has a huge
collection of old fonts (which he sent me a long time ago and which I
can't find right now); maybe he has time to check the CJK fonts.

I don't have mingli.ttf, but all of mingliu in my hand
have same problem.

filenameversion (where I got)
MINGLIU.TTF 3.00OfficeXP proofing kit
MINGLIU.TTC 3.00OfficeXP proofing kit
MINGLIU.TTC 3.21Windows XP SP2

Other DynaLab chinese fonts in my hand have no problem.

filenameversion (where I got)
DFHEI5A.TTF 3.0 Dynalab TypeX 150
DFSONG3A.TTF3.0 Dynalab TypeX 150
DFFN_B5.TTC 2.0 Dynalab TypeX 150
DFFN_M3.TTC 2.0 Dynalab TypeX 150

Yet I cannot remember any Japanese fonts by Dynalab has
such problem.

Regards,
mpsuzuki


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Re: [ft-devel] What and where are the fonts that require the unpatented hinter ?

2006-08-28 Thread George Williams
On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 23:48, David Turner wrote:
 Could anyone remind me what these fonts are, and where I could find them
 for analysis and testing ? I believe that nearly all of them were designed
 by DynaLabs, but I'm a bit unsure about that.
David,
  Here's another one: htst3.ttf
http://fontforge.sf.net/hidden/htst3.tar.bz2

(Just to make sure an earlier message didn't get lost)
I've posted kaiu.ttf  mingliu.ttc to
http://fontforge.sf.net/hidden/mk.tar.bz2



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Re: [ft-devel] What and where are the fonts that require the unpatented hinter ?

2006-08-28 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 I know of 4, one more than mentioned so far - two from
 http://www.htit.com/english/downloads.htm
 (links seems broken)
 http://www.htit.com/download/htkt2.ttf
 http://www.htit.com/download/htst3.ttf

 [...]

Given the fact that we don't know how many such fonts really exist,
chances are quite high that we miss one.

As a solution, I suggest that we add a function to FreeType which
registers such font names.  David?


Werner


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Re: [ft-devel] What and where are the fonts that require the unpatented hinter ?

2006-08-27 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 Not 100% sure this is the same problem, but here is a CJK font fragment 
 from a PDF file that
 exhibits nasty behavior unless
 #define TT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER
  (and hinting not disabled).

Yep.

Werner


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[ft-devel] What and where are the fonts that require the unpatented hinter ?

2006-08-26 Thread David Turner
Hello everyone,

I'm currently trying to have the default build of FreeType just work
when it is fed with one of these tricky TrueType CJK fonts that cannot
be properly loaded without a bytecode interpreter.

The idea is that the unpatented hinter will be compiled in the default
build, though the auto-hinter will still be used to load the glyphs; that
is, *except* if the TrueType face loader determines that the font file
corresponds to one of the few well-known trick fonts.

Could anyone remind me what these fonts are, and where I could find them
for analysis and testing ? I believe that nearly all of them were designed
by DynaLabs, but I'm a bit unsure about that.

For the record, I found msgothic.ttf and gulim.ttc on the web which seem
to load just fine with the auto-hinter (and produce mediocre results with
the unpatented hinter anyway).

This would completely remove the need for the FT_PARAM_TAG_UNPATENTED_HINTING
parameter to FT_Open_Face which is currently required to load these fonts
anyway.

Regards,
- David Turner
- The FreeType Project  (www.freetype.org)



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Re: [ft-devel] What and where are the fonts that require the unpatented hinter ?

2006-08-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 I'm currently trying to have the default build of FreeType just
 work when it is fed with one of these tricky TrueType CJK fonts
 that cannot be properly loaded without a bytecode interpreter.

 The idea is that the unpatented hinter will be compiled in the
 default build, though the auto-hinter will still be used to load the
 glyphs; that is, *except* if the TrueType face loader determines
 that the font file corresponds to one of the few well-known trick
 fonts.

 Could anyone remind me what these fonts are, and where I could find
 them for analysis and testing ? I believe that nearly all of them
 were designed by DynaLabs, but I'm a bit unsure about that.

mingli.ttf is one of them (*not* mingliu.ttc).  Antoine has a huge
collection of old fonts (which he sent me a long time ago and which I
can't find right now); maybe he has time to check the CJK fonts.

I no longer remember where I got this font.  AFAIK, it isn't
distributed any more.  IMHO, it is a fine piece of code: The complete
Big5 character set in just 2.8MByte.


Werner


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Re: [ft-devel] What and where are the fonts that require the unpatented hinter ?

2006-08-26 Thread James Cloos
 Werner == Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David Could anyone remind me what these fonts are, and where I could find them

Werner mingli.ttf is one of them (*not* mingliu.ttc). ...

Werner I no longer remember where I got this font. ... [It is] 2.8MByte.

I don't have that one, but mingliu.ttf (again, not .ttc) from:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/OfficeXPStandard/ie_zht/1/W98NT42KMe/EN-US/ie_zht.exe

is one of the trick fonts.  But a bit larger at 6+ Megs.

That URL even seems to still work

-JimC
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James Cloos [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP: 0xED7DAEA6




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