Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
Or even Skydrive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyDrive On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:40 AM, glen e. p. ropella g...@tempusdictum.comwrote: If you haven't already considered it, SparkleShare might be interesting to you: http://sparkleshare.org/ Gillian Densmore wrote at 02/20/2013 03:54 PM: While investigating cloud back up I ran across a outfit called cloudswave (cloudswave http://www.cloudswave.com)-who pointed me to there service called box+ I've only done a bit of poking and proding it looks like the use quite a bit of the google ecology where it gets interesting though is they offer either a terabyte of storage for just under 20 a month. Compared to googles 45 for the same amount of space I have no idea how they can afford that. They also claim they have some sort of app that can work with a desktop app for colaberation- One pro for google is brand name recognition I was in a meeting today and the lady I asked the lady I was talking to if she'd accept a link pointing to google drive she delitedly said oh sure. I'm not sure i'd get the same instant: aha that's a known work safe place reaction from google competitors. (even if they are cheeper) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
kicking the tires of skydrive like what I see so far. it could be useful as part of my work flow- I don't know what kind of limitations are on a free account. I'd need to dig around to see if they have web and or cloud development and collaboration tools- by that I meen I don't know if they have ways to test PHP and or javascript code (for example) before it's live. Thanks for the link. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM, siddharth sidh...@gmail.com wrote: Or even Skydrive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyDrive On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:40 AM, glen e. p. ropella g...@tempusdictum.com wrote: If you haven't already considered it, SparkleShare might be interesting to you: http://sparkleshare.org/ Gillian Densmore wrote at 02/20/2013 03:54 PM: While investigating cloud back up I ran across a outfit called cloudswave (cloudswave http://www.cloudswave.com)-who pointed me to there service called box+ I've only done a bit of poking and proding it looks like the use quite a bit of the google ecology where it gets interesting though is they offer either a terabyte of storage for just under 20 a month. Compared to googles 45 for the same amount of space I have no idea how they can afford that. They also claim they have some sort of app that can work with a desktop app for colaberation- One pro for google is brand name recognition I was in a meeting today and the lady I asked the lady I was talking to if she'd accept a link pointing to google drive she delitedly said oh sure. I'm not sure i'd get the same instant: aha that's a known work safe place reaction from google competitors. (even if they are cheeper) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
I don't think you ever described your workflow. If you do, we could probably be more helpful. ;; Gary On Feb 21, 2013, at 11:40 AM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: kicking the tires of skydrive like what I see so far. it could be useful as part of my work flow- I don't know what kind of limitations are on a free account. I'd need to dig around to see if they have web and or cloud development and collaboration tools- by that I meen I don't know if they have ways to test PHP and or javascript code (for example) before it's live. Thanks for the link. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
My backup is a second and third set of spinning disks. Cron job runs each night and does rsync incremental backups. With 3 TB external USB3.0 disks costing ~$85 it's cheap to stay backed up. roberts@Igor:~$ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1 551G 6.8G 516G 2% / udev2.9G 12K 2.9G 1% /dev tmpfs 1.2G 1.2M 1.2G 1% /run none5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock none2.9G 9.4M 2.9G 1% /run/shm none100M 20K 100M 1% /run/user /dev/sda1 2.7T 779G 1.8T 30% /home /dev/sdc1 2.7T 1.5T 1.2T 56% /mnt/3TB /dev/sde1 1.4T 1.3T 13G 100% /mnt/Movies /dev/sdf1 917G 2.5G 868G 1% /mnt/Movies2 /dev/sdd1 592G 387G 176G 69% /mnt/Video On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all In light of some issues I have been running into with google drive I wondered what else is out there for cloud back ups that also permits Collaboration by this I meen that I want to be able to send someone a URL where documents in popular formats are where they can read them and also be able to edit them. I have seen some chatter about this on the list recently but I don't know what places are good vs junk. I do have dropbox wich is awsome for somestuff I don't know if it has baked in ways to allow editing of documents I tested it with a illustrator file- it thought it was a picture but didn't understand the format. What are peoples experiences in this area? what places are good? -Gillian Densmore FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
Doug wrote: My backup is a second and third set of spinning disks. Cron job runs each night and does rsync incremental backups. With 3 TB external USB3.0 disks costing ~$85 it's cheap to stay backed up. Do you courier them to the Trementina CST facility? Marcus mail2web.com Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
More like to the dementia facility in Nambe. --Doug On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:12 AM, mar...@snoutfarm.com mar...@snoutfarm.com wrote: Doug wrote: My backup is a second and third set of spinning disks. Cron job runs each night and does rsync incremental backups. With 3 TB external USB3.0 disks costing ~$85 it's cheap to stay backed up. Do you courier them to the Trementina CST facility? Marcus mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft® Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
DropBox syncs files between as many computers as you like, using the cloud. DropBox folders can be shared with as many people as you invite. It does not provide its own editing capabilities. If you want to share an Illustrator file with someone, drag it into the shared DropBox subfolder. It will automatically appear in the corresponding subfolder on the other person's computer. She can then edit it with Illustrator. Another option is Evernote. The free version is restricted in the files it will allow as attachments to notes, but I understand that the paid version allows any file as an attachment to a note. The sharing is similar to that of DropBox; it is by invitation. --Barry On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Hi all In light of some issues I have been running into with google drive I wondered what else is out there for cloud back ups that also permits Collaboration by this I meen that I want to be able to send someone a URL where documents in popular formats are where they can read them and also be able to edit them. I have seen some chatter about this on the list recently but I don't know what places are good vs junk. I do have dropbox wich is awsome for somestuff I don't know if it has baked in ways to allow editing of documents I tested it with a illustrator file- it thought it was a picture but didn't understand the format. What are peoples experiences in this area? what places are good? -Gillian Densmore FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
Google Drive lets you share and allows you to choose if you want to allow the sharee to edit the file. Ed __ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel On Feb 20, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Barry MacKichan wrote: DropBox syncs files between as many computers as you like, using the cloud. DropBox folders can be shared with as many people as you invite. It does not provide its own editing capabilities. If you want to share an Illustrator file with someone, drag it into the shared DropBox subfolder. It will automatically appear in the corresponding subfolder on the other person's computer. She can then edit it with Illustrator. Another option is Evernote. The free version is restricted in the files it will allow as attachments to notes, but I understand that the paid version allows any file as an attachment to a note. The sharing is similar to that of DropBox; it is by invitation. --Barry On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Hi all In light of some issues I have been running into with google drive I wondered what else is out there for cloud back ups that also permits Collaboration by this I meen that I want to be able to send someone a URL where documents in popular formats are where they can read them and also be able to edit them. I have seen some chatter about this on the list recently but I don't know what places are good vs junk. I do have dropbox wich is awsome for somestuff I don't know if it has baked in ways to allow editing of documents I tested it with a illustrator file- it thought it was a picture but didn't understand the format. What are peoples experiences in this area? what places are good? -Gillian Densmore FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
We have used Dropbox somewhat successfully at SFAFS to coordinate assignments and other data in our Science Fair Judging project. It is vital to understand that shared folders can be fully edited (including deleting!) by one and all in the sharing group, so that without good discipline and understanding things can run amok. For example, if one group member deletes a file from a shared folder, that file is deleted from every folder in the group. It is gone. This works independently of OS file permissions. Dropbox is not really suitable for collaborative development because of this. --Dean From: Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted DropBox syncs files between as many computers as you like, using the cloud. DropBox folders can be shared with as many people as you invite. It does not provide its own editing capabilities. If you want to share an Illustrator file with someone, drag it into the shared DropBox subfolder. It will automatically appear in the corresponding subfolder on the other person's computer. She can then edit it with Illustrator. Another option is Evernote. The free version is restricted in the files it will allow as attachments to notes, but I understand that the paid version allows any file as an attachment to a note. The sharing is similar to that of DropBox; it is by invitation. --Barry On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Hi all In light of some issues I have been running into with google drive I wondered what else is out there for cloud back ups that also permits Collaboration by this I meen that I want to be able to send someone a URL where documents in popular formats are where they can read them and also be able to edit them. I have seen some chatter about this on the list recently but I don't know what places are good vs junk. I do have dropbox wich is awsome for somestuff I don't know if it has baked in ways to allow editing of documents I tested it with a illustrator file- it thought it was a picture but didn't understand the format. What are peoples experiences in this area? what places are good? -Gillian Densmore FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
I've not tested it but Dropbox has these instructions on how to recover old versions and deleted files: https://www.dropbox.com/help/11/en Thanks Robert On 2/20/13 1:20 PM, Dean Gerber wrote: We have used Dropbox somewhat successfully at SFAFS to coordinate assignments and other data in our Science Fair Judging project. It is vital to understand that shared folders can be fully edited (including deleting!) by one and all in the sharing group, so that without good discipline and understanding things can run amok. For example, if one group member deletes a file from a shared folder, that file is deleted from every folder in the group. It is gone. This works independently of OS file permissions. Dropbox is not really suitable for collaborative development because of this. *~X( at wits' end --Dean *From:* Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:05 AM *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted DropBox syncs files between as many computers as you like, using the cloud. DropBox folders can be shared with as many people as you invite. It does not provide its own editing capabilities. If you want to share an Illustrator file with someone, drag it into the shared DropBox subfolder. It will automatically appear in the corresponding subfolder on the other person's computer. She can then edit it with Illustrator. Another option is Evernote. The free version is restricted in the files it will allow as attachments to notes, but I understand that the paid version allows any file as an attachment to a note. The sharing is similar to that of DropBox; it is by invitation. --Barry On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Hi all In light of some issues I have been running into with google drive I wondered what else is out there for cloud back ups that also permits Collaboration by this I meen that I want to be able to send someone a URL where documents in popular formats are where they can read them and also be able to edit them. I have seen some chatter about this on the list recently but I don't know what places are good vs junk. I do have dropbox wich is awsome for somestuff I don't know if it has baked in ways to allow editing of documents I tested it with a illustrator file- it thought it was a picture but didn't understand the format. What are peoples experiences in this area? what places are good? -Gillian Densmore FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
While investigating cloud back up I ran across a outfit called cloudswave ( cloudswave http://www.cloudswave.com)-who pointed me to there service called box+ I've only done a bit of poking and proding it looks like the use quite a bit of the google ecology where it gets interesting though is they offer either a terabyte of storage for just under 20 a month. Compared to googles 45 for the same amount of space I have no idea how they can afford that. They also claim they have some sort of app that can work with a desktop app for colaberation- One pro for google is brand name recognition I was in a meeting today and the lady I asked the lady I was talking to if she'd accept a link pointing to google drive she delitedly said oh sure. I'm not sure i'd get the same instant: aha that's a known work safe place reaction from google competitors. (even if they are cheeper) On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: I've run into the same problem as Dean (and used the recovery method Robert talks about, which, I assume, puts the files back in everyone's folder(s).) So does anyone know of a service whereby I can delete the file from my HD's folder, but not interfere with others? Is FTP the only answer to date? -tom On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Dean Gerber pd_ger...@yahoo.com wrote: We have used Dropbox somewhat successfully at SFAFS to coordinate assignments and other data in our Science Fair Judging project. It is vital to understand that shared folders can be fully edited (including deleting!) by one and all in the sharing group, so that without good discipline and understanding things can run amok. For example, if one group member deletes a file from a shared folder, that file is deleted from every folder in the group. It is gone. This works independently of OS file permissions. Dropbox is not really suitable for collaborative development because of this. [image: *~X( at wits' end] --Dean -- *From:* Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:05 AM *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted DropBox syncs files between as many computers as you like, using the cloud. DropBox folders can be shared with as many people as you invite. It does not provide its own editing capabilities. If you want to share an Illustrator file with someone, drag it into the shared DropBox subfolder. It will automatically appear in the corresponding subfolder on the other person's computer. She can then edit it with Illustrator. Another option is Evernote. The free version is restricted in the files it will allow as attachments to notes, but I understand that the paid version allows any file as an attachment to a note. The sharing is similar to that of DropBox; it is by invitation. --Barry On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Hi all In light of some issues I have been running into with google drive I wondered what else is out there for cloud back ups that also permits Collaboration by this I meen that I want to be able to send someone a URL where documents in popular formats are where they can read them and also be able to edit them. I have seen some chatter about this on the list recently but I don't know what places are good vs junk. I do have dropbox wich is awsome for somestuff I don't know if it has baked in ways to allow editing of documents I tested it with a illustrator file- it thought it was a picture but didn't understand the format. What are peoples experiences in this area? what places are good? -Gillian Densmore FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
If you haven't already considered it, SparkleShare might be interesting to you: http://sparkleshare.org/ Gillian Densmore wrote at 02/20/2013 03:54 PM: While investigating cloud back up I ran across a outfit called cloudswave (cloudswave http://www.cloudswave.com)-who pointed me to there service called box+ I've only done a bit of poking and proding it looks like the use quite a bit of the google ecology where it gets interesting though is they offer either a terabyte of storage for just under 20 a month. Compared to googles 45 for the same amount of space I have no idea how they can afford that. They also claim they have some sort of app that can work with a desktop app for colaberation- One pro for google is brand name recognition I was in a meeting today and the lady I asked the lady I was talking to if she'd accept a link pointing to google drive she delitedly said oh sure. I'm not sure i'd get the same instant: aha that's a known work safe place reaction from google competitors. (even if they are cheeper) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
