[FRIAM] 3D Docs?

2013-03-29 Thread Owen Densmore
Paul Irish tweeted this interesting page on 3D documents:

http://blog.crocodoc.com/post/46369766700/3d-ifying-documents-using-css-transforms

Not sure what to do with it other than nifty slide sets, but maybe there
IS a use for 3D newspapers?

   -- Owen

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[FRIAM] what's google smoking with the new gmail?

2013-03-29 Thread Gillian Densmore
I don't get it-
I'm hoping someone out there possibly on the FRIAM mailing list does:
I log into gmail to check my mail and get swamped with flash slides from
google telling me all about how the new improved system is supposed to be
better.
Yet so far seems like a step backward-

Can someone explain to me how on earth going from having a well laid out
look and feel with stuff about where you might expect it to be if you were
to use outlook/mail.app/kmail or what ever KDE uses now  it's a bunch of
sliding stuff without much rhyme or reason

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[FRIAM] mooc stuff

2013-03-29 Thread Jack Stafurik
Here is a link to a Washington Post article on mooc:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovatio
n-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a
60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_tech

At friam this morning we talked about whether this approach could be used to
develop a best teaching approach. The last three paragraphs of this
article gave an interesting perspective on how this can be done. It's copied
below:

But is there a method of detecting whether a student has learned anything?
Quizzes and tests are imperfect measures. Enter, sensor-based technology,
which could detect the interest, learning, and emotion of the student.

For example, NeuroSky markets a headset called MindWave that the company
says measures brainwave signals and transmits them via Bluetooth to a mobile
device. The $99 device, according to the company, detects the attention
level of students as they learn mathematics, science, or any other
pattern-recognition disciplines. Affectiva is developing a biosensor
bracelet called Q Sensor to measure electrodermal activity, which changes
based on one's emotional state. Ideally, the sensor would detect when a
student is anxious, bored or excited.

Now, imagine the digital tutor of the future. If a child likes reading
books, it teaches mathematics and science in a traditional way. If that
doesn't work, the tutor tries videos. If that's too boring, it switches to
games or puzzles. The digital tutor takes the student into holographic
simulations to teach history, culture, and geography. It teaches art and
music through collaboration. The tutor, via sensor data, knows what the
child has learned and the time of day when he or she learns the most. It
asks experts from all around the world the questions it can't answer. It
tells the parents how the child is doing whenever they want to know. It
becomes the child's trusted guide - a teacher tailor-made to fit them.

This could probably be adapted to determine if a student is cheating on a
test!



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Re: [FRIAM] mooc stuff

2013-03-29 Thread Curt McNamara
Reminds me of A Clockwork Orange (*not* my favorite movie).

Curt


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jack Stafurik jstafu...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Here is a link to a Washington Post article on mooc:


 http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovatio

 n-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a
 60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_tech

 At friam this morning we talked about whether this approach could be used
 to
 develop a best teaching approach. The last three paragraphs of this
 article gave an interesting perspective on how this can be done. It's
 copied
 below:

 But is there a method of detecting whether a student has learned anything?
 Quizzes and tests are imperfect measures. Enter, sensor-based technology,
 which could detect the interest, learning, and emotion of the student.

 For example, NeuroSky markets a headset called MindWave that the company
 says measures brainwave signals and transmits them via Bluetooth to a
 mobile
 device. The $99 device, according to the company, detects the attention
 level of students as they learn mathematics, science, or any other
 pattern-recognition disciplines. Affectiva is developing a biosensor
 bracelet called Q Sensor to measure electrodermal activity, which changes
 based on one's emotional state. Ideally, the sensor would detect when a
 student is anxious, bored or excited.

 Now, imagine the digital tutor of the future. If a child likes reading
 books, it teaches mathematics and science in a traditional way. If that
 doesn't work, the tutor tries videos. If that's too boring, it switches to
 games or puzzles. The digital tutor takes the student into holographic
 simulations to teach history, culture, and geography. It teaches art and
 music through collaboration. The tutor, via sensor data, knows what the
 child has learned and the time of day when he or she learns the most. It
 asks experts from all around the world the questions it can't answer. It
 tells the parents how the child is doing whenever they want to know. It
 becomes the child's trusted guide - a teacher tailor-made to fit them.

 This could probably be adapted to determine if a student is cheating on a
 test!


 
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Re: [FRIAM] mooc stuff

2013-03-29 Thread Douglas Roberts
One of mine, however.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Reminds me of A Clockwork Orange (*not* my favorite movie).

 Curt


 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jack Stafurik jstafu...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Here is a link to a Washington Post article on mooc:


 http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovatio

 n-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a
 60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_techhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovation-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_tech

 At friam this morning we talked about whether this approach could be used
 to
 develop a best teaching approach. The last three paragraphs of this
 article gave an interesting perspective on how this can be done. It's
 copied
 below:

 But is there a method of detecting whether a student has learned
 anything?
 Quizzes and tests are imperfect measures. Enter, sensor-based technology,
 which could detect the interest, learning, and emotion of the student.

 For example, NeuroSky markets a headset called MindWave that the company
 says measures brainwave signals and transmits them via Bluetooth to a
 mobile
 device. The $99 device, according to the company, detects the attention
 level of students as they learn mathematics, science, or any other
 pattern-recognition disciplines. Affectiva is developing a biosensor
 bracelet called Q Sensor to measure electrodermal activity, which changes
 based on one's emotional state. Ideally, the sensor would detect when a
 student is anxious, bored or excited.

 Now, imagine the digital tutor of the future. If a child likes reading
 books, it teaches mathematics and science in a traditional way. If that
 doesn't work, the tutor tries videos. If that's too boring, it switches to
 games or puzzles. The digital tutor takes the student into holographic
 simulations to teach history, culture, and geography. It teaches art and
 music through collaboration. The tutor, via sensor data, knows what the
 child has learned and the time of day when he or she learns the most. It
 asks experts from all around the world the questions it can't answer. It
 tells the parents how the child is doing whenever they want to know. It
 becomes the child's trusted guide - a teacher tailor-made to fit them.

 This could probably be adapted to determine if a student is cheating on a
 test!


 
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[FRIAM] A Clockwork MOOC.

2013-03-29 Thread Steve Smith
Kubricks CO was disturbing when I first saw it at 14 (much too young, 
despite having read Burgess' novel already) and easier to watch but 
still very disturbing even as a mature adult.


I have to admit that Curt's observation matched my own feeling that a 
great deal of the discussion around MOOCs gave me eerie premonitions of 
dystopian times.


I wonder if the lessons offered by CO are not being ignored as we plow 
forward, creating more ways for our youth to be disaffected, bored, 
confused and our establishment even *more* incompetent but adamant (no 
child left behind?).


I had a mere handful of teachers/professors I can give more than 
mediocre marks to and a few who taught me the most as hugely bad 
examples.  I'm not sure I would have *any* if I had gotten my formal 
education through MOOCs...


I can give a lot more credit to mentors (including nominal peers) but 
those were more self-selected.  I don't know if we have any *early 
career* educators, but I'd imagine that the *good* ones would find this 
trend disturbing... mainly because it separates you from the students...


Both of my daughters considered teaching at one point or another and 
abandoned the idea after spending a little time in rudimentary 
experiences... primarily because they found the students undermotivated 
and the parents too often more harm than help. MOOCs may support those 
somewhere out on the Autism spectrum, but for many, the only way they 
will learn is in a social context with both competition and support from 
their peers.  I don't know how to replace that in a MOOC context.


I do suppose that a few teaching assistants/mentors coupled with the 
MOOCs and some *classroom* 
discussion/troubleshooting/brainstorming/problem-solving time might do well?






One of mine, however.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com 
mailto:curt...@gmail.com wrote:


Reminds me of A Clockwork Orange (*not* my favorite movie).

Curt


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jack Stafurik
jstafu...@earthlink.net mailto:jstafu...@earthlink.net wrote:

Here is a link to a Washington Post article on mooc:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovatio

n-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a
60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_tech

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovation-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_tech

At friam this morning we talked about whether this approach
could be used to
develop a best teaching approach. The last three paragraphs
of this
article gave an interesting perspective on how this can be
done. It's copied
below:

But is there a method of detecting whether a student has
learned anything?
Quizzes and tests are imperfect measures. Enter, sensor-based
technology,
which could detect the interest, learning, and emotion of the
student.

For example, NeuroSky markets a headset called MindWave that
the company
says measures brainwave signals and transmits them via
Bluetooth to a mobile
device. The $99 device, according to the company, detects the
attention
level of students as they learn mathematics, science, or any other
pattern-recognition disciplines. Affectiva is developing a
biosensor
bracelet called Q Sensor to measure electrodermal activity,
which changes
based on one's emotional state. Ideally, the sensor would
detect when a
student is anxious, bored or excited.

Now, imagine the digital tutor of the future. If a child likes
reading
books, it teaches mathematics and science in a traditional
way. If that
doesn't work, the tutor tries videos. If that's too boring, it
switches to
games or puzzles. The digital tutor takes the student into
holographic
simulations to teach history, culture, and geography. It
teaches art and
music through collaboration. The tutor, via sensor data, knows
what the
child has learned and the time of day when he or she learns
the most. It
asks experts from all around the world the questions it can't
answer. It
tells the parents how the child is doing whenever they want to
know. It
becomes the child's trusted guide - a teacher tailor-made to
fit them.

This could probably be adapted to determine if a student is
cheating on a
test!



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Re: [FRIAM] A Clockwork MOOC.

2013-03-29 Thread Roger Critchlow
What's missing is the matchmaking service to allow potential MOOC students
to find compatible fellow students for clustering together into collegia.
 Which could happen in inner city squats, as long as there is some kind of
coffee shop in the neighborhood.  More serious groups of students would
probably try to find a suitable tutor or two for their proposed course of
study, again a missing matchmaking service, or perhaps the tutors are
acting as the student matchmakers.  Existing campuses are free to compete
as matchmakers, squats, or tutors, but most of them gave up competing to
serve students a long time ago, choosing a different path through the woods
instead.

-- rec --


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:

  Kubricks CO was disturbing when I first saw it at 14 (much too young,
 despite having read Burgess' novel already) and easier to watch but still
 very disturbing even as a mature adult.

 I have to admit that Curt's observation matched my own feeling that a
 great deal of the discussion around MOOCs gave me eerie premonitions of
 dystopian times.

 I wonder if the lessons offered by CO are not being ignored as we plow
 forward, creating more ways for our youth to be disaffected, bored,
 confused and our establishment even *more* incompetent but adamant (no
 child left behind?).

 I had a mere handful of teachers/professors I can give more than mediocre
 marks to and a few who taught me the most as hugely bad examples.  I'm not
 sure I would have *any* if I had gotten my formal education through
 MOOCs...

 I can give a lot more credit to mentors (including nominal peers) but
 those were more self-selected.  I don't know if we have any *early career*
 educators, but I'd imagine that the *good* ones would find this trend
 disturbing... mainly because it separates you from the students...

 Both of my daughters considered teaching at one point or another and
 abandoned the idea after spending a little time in rudimentary
 experiences... primarily because they found the students undermotivated and
 the parents too often more harm than help.  MOOCs may support those
 somewhere out on the Autism spectrum, but for many, the only way they will
 learn is in a social context with both competition and support from their
 peers.  I don't know how to replace that in a MOOC context.

 I do suppose that a few teaching assistants/mentors coupled with the MOOCs
 and some *classroom*
 discussion/troubleshooting/brainstorming/problem-solving time might do well?




  One of mine, however.

 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com wrote:

  Reminds me of A Clockwork Orange (*not* my favorite movie).

  Curt


 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jack Stafurik 
 jstafu...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Here is a link to a Washington Post article on mooc:


 http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovatio

 n-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a
 60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_techhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovation-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_tech

 At friam this morning we talked about whether this approach could be
 used to
 develop a best teaching approach. The last three paragraphs of this
 article gave an interesting perspective on how this can be done. It's
 copied
 below:

 But is there a method of detecting whether a student has learned
 anything?
 Quizzes and tests are imperfect measures. Enter, sensor-based technology,
 which could detect the interest, learning, and emotion of the student.

 For example, NeuroSky markets a headset called MindWave that the company
 says measures brainwave signals and transmits them via Bluetooth to a
 mobile
 device. The $99 device, according to the company, detects the attention
 level of students as they learn mathematics, science, or any other
 pattern-recognition disciplines. Affectiva is developing a biosensor
 bracelet called Q Sensor to measure electrodermal activity, which changes
 based on one's emotional state. Ideally, the sensor would detect when a
 student is anxious, bored or excited.

 Now, imagine the digital tutor of the future. If a child likes reading
 books, it teaches mathematics and science in a traditional way. If that
 doesn't work, the tutor tries videos. If that's too boring, it switches
 to
 games or puzzles. The digital tutor takes the student into holographic
 simulations to teach history, culture, and geography. It teaches art and
 music through collaboration. The tutor, via sensor data, knows what the
 child has learned and the time of day when he or she learns the most. It
 asks experts from all around the world the questions it can't answer. It
 tells the parents how the child is doing whenever they want to know. It
 becomes the child's trusted guide - a teacher tailor-made to fit them.

 This could probably be adapted 

Re: [FRIAM] A Clockwork MOOC.

2013-03-29 Thread Steve Smith
Or following the CO riff, the student groups could form in the same way 
street gangs do...  Sharks v Jets to put an almost sweet face on it 
compared to Bloods/Cryps or whatever the wankers in CO were?   The 
smartest (instead of the toughest) would be a natural leader with some 
smart(ish) lieutenants helping smartypants manage the lesser smarties... 
providing focus and loyalty and interest.  Would a diploma (in the form 
of a neck tattoo?) from the Bloods have more street Cred than if from 
the Cryps?  I'm feeling a Neil Stephenson novel coming on.


My daughters partner is a former instructor at TVI who moved to teaching 
HS in ABQ and then Portland, who finally moved to tutoring.   I will ask 
him if he thinks he (or others like him... freelance tutors) could 
restructure their work around MOOCs? Currently his students are mostly 
HS but some University in conventional courses... but perhaps some of 
the HS students (often either advanced or with special needs around 
focus/attention) he tutors might want to take on college level work via 
MOOCs.  He tutors only physics and math right now but is often asked to 
do Chemistry and other things which he is competent in but not up to 
speed to actually tutor effectively.  He could probably handle a wider 
range in the context of a MOOC where he could study ahead himself and 
be prepared before the students got to material.


I think the one thing he misses about TVI and HS teaching is the group 
experience (though he doesn't miss baby-sitting teens and running 
interference with interfering parents).


- Steve
What's missing is the matchmaking service to allow potential MOOC 
students to find compatible fellow students for clustering together 
into collegia.  Which could happen in inner city squats, as long as 
there is some kind of coffee shop in the neighborhood.  More serious 
groups of students would probably try to find a suitable tutor or two 
for their proposed course of study, again a missing matchmaking 
service, or perhaps the tutors are acting as the student matchmakers. 
 Existing campuses are free to compete as matchmakers, squats, or 
tutors, but most of them gave up competing to serve students a long 
time ago, choosing a different path through the woods instead.


-- rec --


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com 
mailto:sasm...@swcp.com wrote:


Kubricks CO was disturbing when I first saw it at 14 (much too
young, despite having read Burgess' novel already) and easier to
watch but still very disturbing even as a mature adult.

I have to admit that Curt's observation matched my own feeling
that a great deal of the discussion around MOOCs gave me eerie
premonitions of dystopian times.

I wonder if the lessons offered by CO are not being ignored as we
plow forward, creating more ways for our youth to be disaffected,
bored, confused and our establishment even *more* incompetent but
adamant (no child left behind?).

I had a mere handful of teachers/professors I can give more than
mediocre marks to and a few who taught me the most as hugely bad
examples.  I'm not sure I would have *any* if I had gotten my
formal education through MOOCs...

I can give a lot more credit to mentors (including nominal peers)
but those were more self-selected.  I don't know if we have any
*early career* educators, but I'd imagine that the *good* ones
would find this trend disturbing... mainly because it separates
you from the students...

Both of my daughters considered teaching at one point or another
and abandoned the idea after spending a little time in rudimentary
experiences... primarily because they found the students
undermotivated and the parents too often more harm than help. 
MOOCs may support those somewhere out on the Autism spectrum, but

for many, the only way they will learn is in a social context with
both competition and support from their peers.  I don't know how
to replace that in a MOOC context.

I do suppose that a few teaching assistants/mentors coupled with
the MOOCs and some *classroom*
discussion/troubleshooting/brainstorming/problem-solving time
might do well?





One of mine, however.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Curt McNamara curt...@gmail.com
mailto:curt...@gmail.com wrote:

Reminds me of A Clockwork Orange (*not* my favorite movie).

Curt


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jack Stafurik
jstafu...@earthlink.net mailto:jstafu...@earthlink.net wrote:

Here is a link to a Washington Post article on mooc:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-innovations/in-education-innovatio

n-moocs-are-only-the-beginning/2013/03/29/88d77ae6-97ef-11e2-814b-063623d80a
60_story.html?wpisrc=nl_tech


Re: [FRIAM] A Clockwork MOOC.

2013-03-29 Thread Brent Auble
There are self-organizing groups popping up around MOOCs.  MeetUp is great for 
facilitating things like that.  Here's one example (in the Washington, DC area):

Data Everywhere (http://www.meetup.com/Data-Everywhere/?gj=ej1ba=wg2.3_rdmr)

This is a group for anyone interested in learning anything and everything 
about Data Science, Analytics, Big Data, Data mining, Predictive Analytics and 
Statistics. There are no presentations and pizza. Just learning and doing. We 
will follow Data Science/Analytics related courses offered on Coursera as a 
group and have regular meetups as the course progresses. Looking for people who 
are serious about hand on learning. Come out and join us

Admittedly, that group is for adults interested in doing self-directed learning 
toward a subject that most likely has applicability to their livelihoods.  The 
situation may be different for students in HS and college who don't have that 
context yet, and, especially in HS, may have had much of the joy of learning 
sucked out of them...

Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age is what came to mind for me when reading 
the last paragraph of the Washington Post article below, although I haven't 
read Clockwork Orange and don't have much desire to given how disturbing the 
movie is.  Diamond Age includes a nanotechnology instruction book for the main 
character (a young girl) which, if my vague memory is correct, behaved much 
like the description in that paragraph.  

Brent



 From: Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A Clockwork MOOC.
 

Or following the CO riff, the student groups could form in the same way street 
gangs do...  Sharks v Jets to put an almost sweet face on it compared to 
Bloods/Cryps or whatever the wankers in CO were?   The smartest (instead of the 
toughest) would be a natural leader with some smart(ish) lieutenants helping 
smartypants manage the lesser smarties... providing focus and loyalty and 
interest.  Would a diploma (in the form of a neck tattoo?) from the Bloods have 
more street Cred than if from the Cryps?  I'm feeling a Neil Stephenson novel 
coming on.

My daughters partner is a former instructor at TVI who moved to
  teaching HS in ABQ and then Portland, who finally moved to
  tutoring.   I will ask him if he thinks he (or others like him...
  freelance tutors) could restructure their work around MOOCs? 
  Currently his students are mostly HS but some University in
  conventional courses... but perhaps some of the HS students (often
  either advanced or with special needs around focus/attention) he
  tutors might want to take on college level work via MOOCs.  He
  tutors only physics and math right now but is often asked to do
  Chemistry and other things which he is competent in but not up to
  speed to actually tutor effectively.  He could probably handle a
  wider range in the context of a MOOC where he could study ahead
  himself and be prepared before the students got to material.  

I think the one thing he misses about TVI and HS teaching is the
  group experience (though he doesn't miss baby-sitting teens and
  running interference with interfering parents).

- Steve

What's missing is the matchmaking service to allow potential MOOC students to 
find compatible fellow students for clustering together into collegia.  Which 
could happen in inner city squats, as long as there is some kind of coffee shop 
in the neighborhood.  More serious groups of students would probably try to 
find a suitable tutor or two for their proposed course of study, again a 
missing matchmaking service, or perhaps the tutors are acting as the student 
matchmakers.  Existing campuses are free to compete as matchmakers, squats, or 
tutors, but most of them gave up competing to serve students a long time ago, 
choosing a different path through the woods instead. 


-- rec --



On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote:

Kubricks CO was disturbing when I first saw it at 14 (much too young, despite 
having read Burgess' novel already) and easier to watch but still very 
disturbing even as a mature adult.

I have to admit that Curt's observation matched my own
feeling that a great deal of the discussion around MOOCs
gave me eerie premonitions of dystopian times.

I wonder if the lessons offered by CO are not being
ignored as we plow forward, creating more ways for our
youth to be disaffected, bored, confused and our
establishment even *more* incompetent but adamant (no
child left behind?).

I had a mere handful of teachers/professors I can give
more than mediocre marks to and a few who taught me the
most as hugely bad examples.  I'm not sure I would have