Re: FVWM: Session Management under fvwm2
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 07:50:38AM +1000, Felix Karpfen wrote: > And then? And then... what? that's it. Fvwm is running within the session manager - you can do as you were. :) > does not appear to work in conjunction with "fvwm-themes". I have > failed to locate the "gnome-session-manager" (because I lack a basic > familiarity with Gnome) and I suspect that the "killall" command needs > additional modification if it is to start "fvwm-themes" next time. The "killall" command is used so that the current running window manager is kicked out from under the session manager, replacing it with fvwm. With fvwm-themes, this is just fvwm, so --replace will still work, providing you call not fvwm-themes, but: fvwm -f themes-rc (IIRC -- it has been a while since I last looked at fvwm-themes.) As for gnome-session-manager -- it's just called 'gnome-session'. > And, in view of the other posts, where should the xearth command go ? > Left where it is or into ".xinitrc" ? It should be OK where it is. > I venture to send this follow-up, because it looks as though it now > needs very little to achieve what I was trying to do. HTH, -- Thomas Adam -- "One of us is a cigar stand, and one of us is a lovely blue incandescent guillotine" -- Stephen Malkmus, "Type Slowly" from "Brighten The Corners" -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Session Management under fvwm2
On Mon, 09 May 2005 00:32:47 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>): > you might also want to read an article I published on session > management and fvwm: > > http://linuxgazette.net/100/adam.html > Belatedly, I have finally located a fvwm man page that appears to address my problems. It says: , | Most users just should put: | | fvwm-themes-start | |as the last line of their .Xclients, .xinitrc or .xsession file. If |you want to use FVWM Themes with a real session manager, say GNOME, you |need to use the --no-start option and put: | | fvwm-themes-start --no-start | gnome-session ` And then? It looks as though both entries are taken seriously. I end up with the gnome desktop and my previous-loaded packages - when loaded onto the desktop - open at the point at which I had left them when I shut down fvwm2. The first tweak suggested in: http://linuxgazette.net/100/adam.html does not appear to work in conjunction with "fvwm-themes". I have failed to locate the "gnome-session-manager" (because I lack a basic familiarity with Gnome) and I suspect that the "killall" command needs additional modification if it is to start "fvwm-themes" next time. And, in view of the other posts, where should the xearth command go? Left where it is or into ".xinitrc"? I venture to send this follow-up, because it looks as though it now needs very little to achieve what I was trying to do. Felix Karpfen -- Felix Karpfen Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Session Management under fvwm2
On Sat, 07 May 2005 22:08:33 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>): > > --- Felix Karpfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It would help at least one novice to have an example of an entry in the >> (personal) configuration file that shows how to make a routinely used >> menu into a permanent entry whenever fvwm2 is started. > > If I understand you, you just want to add something like: > > DestroyMenu mymenu > AddToMenu mymenu > + "program1" Exec exec prog1 > + "program2" Exec exec prog2 -option > > Although I doubt that is what you want -- can you provide a clearer > example of what you're actually wanting to do? > My apologies for failing to mention one important item - I access fvwm2 via fvwm-themes. Here is the content of my "personal" directory: [EMAIL PROTECTED] felixk]$ ls -l .fvwm/themes/personal/ total 64 -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 96 Apr 18 2003 bindings-extra -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 8008 Feb 28 11:52 functions-appbind -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 776 Apr 28 21:33 functions-appbind-extra -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 94 Apr 18 2003 functions-extra -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 1459 Apr 18 2003 globalfeel -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 678 Mar 16 12:32 menus-extra -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk0 Apr 18 2003 menus-programs-extra -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 80 Aug 14 2004 startup -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 95 Apr 18 2003 startup.01.bk -rw-r--r-- 1 felixk felixk 68 Apr 18 2003 stroke-extra And these are the current entries in my "startup" file (which I imagine needs additions): AddToFunc InitFunction + I Exec sleep 5 + I Exec exec xearth -label -wait 240 The programs that I load routinely are the Opera browser, the Pan newsreader and the Gnome terminal. I load each of them onto a different page and envisage that the pages need to be specified in the start-up file. It would be great if the programs opened at the point at which they were closed when fvwm2 was shutdown. Not really necessary since Opera and Pan do this by default. I hope that I have the terminology correct. Thank you for the prompt reply. > Felix Karpfen -- Felix Karpfen Public Key 72FDF9DF (DH/DSA) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Session Management under fvwm2
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 01:15:41AM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > so if SM does not start one, then and only then it may be placed in > SessionInitFunction. Quite. I assumed this was such an instance. -- Thomas Adam -- "One of us is a cigar stand, and one of us is a lovely blue incandescent guillotine" -- Stephen Malkmus, "Type Slowly" from "Brighten The Corners" -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Session Management under fvwm2
On 09 May 2005 00:32:47 +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > > --- Felix Karpfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AddToFunc InitFunction > > + I Exec sleep 5 > > + I Exec exec xearth -label -wait 240 > > > > The programs that I load routinely are the Opera browser, the Pan > > newsreader and the Gnome terminal. I load each of them onto a > > different > > page and envisage that the pages need to be specified in the start-up > > file. It would be great if the programs opened at the point at which > > they were closed when fvwm2 was shutdown. I suspect that all the > > mentioned programs are already configured to do that, but need to try > > it before I can be certain. > > Right -- you want to see 'SessionInitFunction' as that function is the > same as the above *except* that it runs only via a session manager. No. The only usage of SessionInitFunction I know is to start FvwmBanner. I don't think X applications (even xearth) belong to SessionInitFunction. Otherwise a user gets 2 copies of the same applications on the next start, one copy is started by a session manager. However different X programs behave differently regarding SM, so if SM does not start one, then and only then it may be placed in SessionInitFunction. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Session Management under fvwm2
--- Felix Karpfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AddToFunc InitFunction > + I Exec sleep 5 > + I Exec exec xearth -label -wait 240 > > The programs that I load routinely are the Opera browser, the Pan > newsreader and the Gnome terminal. I load each of them onto a > different > page and envisage that the pages need to be specified in the start-up > file. It would be great if the programs opened at the point at which > they were closed when fvwm2 was shutdown. I suspect that all the > mentioned programs are already configured to do that, but need to try > it before I can be certain. Right -- you want to see 'SessionInitFunction' as that function is the same as the above *except* that it runs only via a session manager. > I hope that I have the terminology correct. Yup. I hate doing this, but you might also want to read an article I published on session management and fvwm: http://linuxgazette.net/100/adam.html -- Thomas Adam ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Session Management under fvwm2
--- Felix Karpfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would help at least one novice to have an example of an entry in > the (personal) configuration file that shows how to make a routinely > used menu into a permanent entry whenever fvwm2 is started. If I understand you, you just want to add something like: DestroyMenu mymenu AddToMenu mymenu + "program1" Exec exec prog1 + "program2" Exec exec prog2 -option Although I doubt that is what you want -- can you provide a clearer example of what you're actually wanting to do? -- Thomas Adam ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
