Re: Okay, once I've built my iWeb site, how do I post it?
At 1:54 AM -0400 4/3/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I recommend you study the HTML and other web lessons at http://lynda.comlynda.com. many of these are free and you can buy more. Student rates are available also. These are very informative and are used by pros and students at universities and elsewhere. A bit of knowledge about the importance of an index page and file structure will help your site look and operate at it's best. The digital imaging lessons will help you optimize the pics for web use and help you keep the pages loading fast and save space on the server for more. Agreed. Knowledge is good. iWeb does some wierd code, from what I've seen. But it should be reasonably functional on nearly any ISP's server. The program you use is not as important as structure. You can even do it in Word if you already have that. Gyah! No! Bad codemonkey! Word continues to improve, but ye gods it puts a lot of unnecessary garbage in there! I've cleaned up a LOT of I did it in Word sites. They're often easier to just rebuild from scratch. In my latest Word rescue (last night) I found that the page which was built in MS Word displayed properly in most browsers, but completely bombed in you guessed it, MS IE on Windows. How ironic. My favorite was the one that had something like 11,000 non-breaking spaces (nbsp;) on the equivalent of about two 8 1/2 by 11 sized pages. It sure did run faster once we took them out! But a WYSIWYG makes it easier to see the changes as they are made. Dreamweaver lets you see both the design and the code at the same time if that helps you learn. But anyway you do it it can be creative fun. The big problem with WYSIWYG (speaking as one who has hand-coded since 1994) is that even the best of them (Dreamweaver and perhaps a few others) put a lot of unnecessary code in there, as they are not able to relate one code insert to the next. So after a few edits, you tend to see things like: span style=font-size:11px;span style=font-size:12px;span style=font-size:11px;span style=font-size:14px; /span/span/span/span (in other words, you had some text there, and you changed the font size three or four times, then deleted all but a space. Now you have a big pile of contradictory code which basically does nothing but slow down your load time. ) -- Bill Christensen http://greenbuilder.com/contact/ Green Building Professionals Directory: http://directory.greenbuilder.com Sustainable Building Calendar: http://www.greenbuilder.com/calendar/ Green Real Estate: http://www.greenbuilder.com/realestate/ Straw Bale Registry: http://sbregistry.greenbuilder.com/ Books/videos/software: http://bookstore.greenbuilder.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Okay, once I've built my iWeb site, how do I post it?
Date: Thurs, Apr 2 2009 5:46 pm From: tonycd Get a .mac membership? Any other way? If my ISP provides a page for free, is there a way for me to use it? If your ISP provide you with server space, and most seem to do this, you can put your website there. You can use an FTP program to get your files onto the server. Cyberduck is an excellent free FTP program. -- dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Okay, once I've built my iWeb site, how do I post it?
At 02:49 -0500 4/3/09, Bill Christensen wrote: At 1:54 AM -0400 4/3/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: The program you use is not as important as structure. You can even do it in Word if you already have that. Gyah! No! Bad codemonkey! Agreed, but only for the case of asking WORD to export a formatted document to HTML. Please don't EVER do that. But it has become difficult to find a simple text editor for use in the Macintosh world. Codemonkeying requires a program that doesn't mind creating and storing plain old ASCII text that's required by a web server delivering an HTML document to a browser. WORD can do that and it's no harder to use for that than is Apple's TextEdit which really wants to use RTF and that's no better than .doc for preparing HTML documents. Best is a real text editor - MPW, BBEdit, SimpleText - come to mind but they either cost money or don't work with OS neXt. If WORD is there anyway go ahead and use it. Just save as TEXT. Don't use the export to HTML feature. -- -- A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Okay, once I've built my iWeb site, how do I post it?
On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Doug McNutt wrote: But it has become difficult to find a simple text editor for use in the Macintosh world. http://tinyurl.com/cn9dv9 Textedit comes WITH OS X, don't know about that OS you're claiming to use, and if you set it to plain text it stays that way until you switch it to RTF. TextWrangler (free) (Also the text editor I use for all of my programming) Jedit Smultron AquaEmacs vi, pico and emacs are also built in. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: resurrecting a hard drive?
snip- Get one of these http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=2020-OTBcpc=SCH and stop tearing into systems to do this sort of thing. With this you can boot from a functioning Mac and work on these drives without don't bother trying to buy from geeks if you use a PO box. They consider everyone with a PO box as crooks and refuse to sell/ship to them. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Okay, once I've built my iWeb site, how do I post it?
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Bill Christensen billc_li...@greenbuilder.com wrote: At 1:54 AM -0400 4/3/09, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: I recommend you study the HTML and other web lessons at http://lynda.comlynda.com. many of these are free and you can buy more. Student rates are available also. These are very informative and are used by pros and students at universities and elsewhere. A bit of knowledge about the importance of an index page and file structure will help your site look and operate at it's best. The digital imaging lessons will help you optimize the pics for web use and help you keep the pages loading fast and save space on the server for more. Agreed. Knowledge is good. iWeb does some wierd code, from what I've seen. But it should be reasonably functional on nearly any ISP's server. The program you use is not as important as structure. You can even do it in Word if you already have that. Gyah! No! Bad codemonkey! I assumed that the OP tonycd was just starting out and was not looking to spend much money on this yet. Of course if he gets serious he has many more considerations than just cost in selecting his authoring package. Word continues to improve, but ye gods it puts a lot of unnecessary garbage in there! I've cleaned up a LOT of I did it in Word sites. They're often easier to just rebuild from scratch. In my latest Word rescue (last night) I found that the page which was built in MS Word displayed properly in most browsers, but completely bombed in you guessed it, MS IE on Windows. How ironic. But not as unexpected as we would have assumed a decade ago! My favorite was the one that had something like 11,000 non-breaking spaces (nbsp;) on the equivalent of about two 8 1/2 by 11 sized pages. It sure did run faster once we took them out! But a WYSIWYG makes it easier to see the changes as they are made. Dreamweaver lets you see both the design and the code at the same time if that helps you learn. But anyway you do it it can be creative fun. The big problem with WYSIWYG (speaking as one who has hand-coded since 1994) is that even the best of them (Dreamweaver and perhaps a few others) put a lot of unnecessary code in there, as they are not able to relate one code insert to the next. So after a few edits, you tend to see things like: span style=font-size:11px;span style=font-size:12px;span style=font-size:11px;span style=font-size:14px; /span/span/span/span (in other words, you had some text there, and you changed the font size three or four times, then deleted all but a space. Now you have a big pile of contradictory code which basically does nothing but slow down your load time. ) Thanks for the tip. I will look to see if this is reduced by setting up CSS carefully. I will be more aware of decisions on styles to reduce experimentation during the page builds. I will also start looking at removing this extraneous code. Another item on the final checkout list, And I hope tonycd gets to like site building. For me it is an unexpected creative outlet coming from graphics and video. But these days you do what ya gotta do to get your stuff seen. So it is good there is a fun aspect to it. Sometimes I have so much fun my head aches real good! Regards Adrian D'Alessio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
end of life Apple computers
I have a G3 and G4 Apple desktop. My birthday is approaching and I would like to buy a newer apple computer. I have enquired about end of life desktops at Apple stores and am told they don't have any. Is this just a stock answer so you will buy a newer one? Where can I find an end of life computer? The new Mac Mini is promising but I would prefer the 20 inch Imac if possible. I am retired and so is my husband. I do not have unlimited funds.I also prefer to see the computer up close before I purchase it.I don't really trust computers sent through the mail. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: I followed the google instructions for setting up the account to use imap. it wouldn't work at all. It just didn't receive any mail.-Jonas I dunno. Go back through the directions and make sure you follow the directions to the letter. For example the username you use is NOT just your gmail user name, it is your whole Gmail address. I know it works, and it works well, I get my mail from my gmail address on all three of my computers via imap. Some providers (tds.net) are switching to gmail although you can download on one computer you will not be able to see on another. setting t-bird to leave on server causes mutiple msgs. Appears to be an attempt to control band width. I think I had to check the port settings when they switched over. Are you getting the gmail through a isp? If so they may have a port to use. I am moving away from that isp mail account for the hassles involved and lack of email sharing. I have several computers 60 miles apart to check mail on and need to be able to recall a msg. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: end of life Apple computers
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM, ll mlitwin3...@att.net wrote: I have a G3 and G4 Apple desktop. My birthday is approaching and I would like to buy a newer apple computer. I have enquired about end of life desktops at Apple stores and am told they don't have any. Is this just a stock answer so you will buy a newer one? Where can I find an end of life computer? The new Mac Mini is promising but I would prefer the 20 inch Imac if possible. I am retired and so is my husband. I do not have unlimited funds.I also prefer to see the computer up close before I purchase it.I don't really trust computers sent through the mail. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ An unopened boxed mini from a reputable dealer on the web should be just as good as one you see in the store.Just make sure you ask the seller about warranty registration etc. How about asking Small Dog . Com a proven reliable Low End Mac sponsor what they have in stock. There should be some left over Minis of the last generation. Take a look at their site; http://www.smalldog.com/macs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: end of life Apple computers
On 3 Apr 2009, at 09:34:51 PDT, ll wrote: I have a G3 and G4 Apple desktop. My birthday is approaching and I would like to buy a newer apple computer. I have enquired about end of life desktops at Apple stores and am told they don't have any. Is this just a stock answer so you will buy a newer one? Where can I find an end of life computer? The new Mac Mini is promising but I would prefer the 20 inch Imac if possible. I am retired and so is my husband. I do not have unlimited funds.I also prefer to see the computer up close before I purchase it.I don't really trust computers sent through the mail. --- Well, being retired also, I am sympathetic to your desire to see what you are getting before laying out cash. However, I am not sure what you are asking. Are you bargain hunting and hoping Apple will give you a good deal on close out items? If so, I suspect you will get little satisfaction. It is not really in Apple's interest to sell you something they are no longer going to manufacture. You may find such bargains on the secondary market, but you will have a hard time finding a brick and mortar store where you can lay your hands on an actual machine. To me, end of life means no longer manufactured or supported. Unless you are one who enjoys keeping old stuff running, probably not what you want. I think you might find end of production run Macs through such outlets as MacMall, but you will have to buy and then try, hoping to be able to return if you don't like the machine. A bit of a hassle. They do offer warranties, but... Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: end of life Apple computers
I've bought a couple of computers from Mac of All Trades: http://www.macofalltrades.com/ They currently have a coupld of iMac Intel 20 modesl for under $700. Good luck, Dale Hoffman On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:34 PM, ll wrote: I have a G3 and G4 Apple desktop. My birthday is approaching and I would like to buy a newer apple computer. I have enquired about end of life desktops at Apple stores and am told they don't have any. Is this just a stock answer so you will buy a newer one? Where can I find an end of life computer? The new Mac Mini is promising but I would prefer the 20 inch Imac if possible. I am retired and so is my husband. I do not have unlimited funds.I also prefer to see the computer up close before I purchase it.I don't really trust computers sent through the mail. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: end of life Apple computers
At 9:34 AM -0700 4/3/09, ll posted: I have a G3 and G4 Apple desktop. My birthday is approaching and I would like to buy a newer apple computer. I have enquired about end of life desktops at Apple stores and am told they don't have any. Is this just a stock answer so you will buy a newer one? Where can I find an end of life computer? The new Mac Mini is promising but I would prefer the 20 inch Imac if possible. I am retired and so is my husband. I do not have unlimited funds.I also prefer to see the computer up close before I purchase it.I don't really trust computers sent through the mail. I bought a reconditioned 24 iMac (2008) from the apple.ca website that was priced $100 more than the 20 iMac (not reconditioned) that I had been looking at. It arrived from California 2 days after ordering, via a package shipper, not the postal system. My warrantee on a reconditioned iMac is the exact same as on a 'new' iMac. The only downside to ordering reconditioned, other than not getting a pretty Apple designed shipping box, is not being able to customise, such as going for a larger hard drive or more RAM or a better video card which can be a hassle with iMacs. I upgraded the RAM easily once I was able to remove the cover (problem with the screw which has a repair number for a semi-local shop once the weather is nice enough to drive.) I wouldn't hesitate to buy reconditioned again. To find reconditioned on Apple's site, type 'reconditioned' into the search box. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: end of life Apple computers
On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:34 AM, ll wrote: I have a G3 and G4 Apple desktop. My birthday is approaching and I would like to buy a newer apple computer. I have enquired about end of life desktops at Apple stores and am told they don't have any. Is this just a stock answer so you will buy a newer one? Where can I find an end of life computer? Go to the online Apple store and you can find them; go down to the 'Clearance' section. At this moment they have a 20' iMac for $999, and a 24' for $1399. However, Apple's has gone to a very tight inventory control, especially at their stores, meaning there never are very many 'EOL' models around when they switch; they usually start constraining the supply a month or so before releasing new models. The new Mac Mini is promising but I would prefer the 20 inch Imac if possible. I am retired and so is my husband. I do not have unlimited funds.I also prefer to see the computer up close before I purchase it.I don't really trust computers sent through the mail. An iMac purchased from Apple's online store will be the same as an iMac you get at the store, and you can take it to the store for service, if needed. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 2, 2:46 pm, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: I followed the google instructions for setting up the account to use imap. it wouldn't work at all. It just didn't receive any mail.-Jonas I set up two new Gmail accounts about a month ago. They work fine. Please tell us exactly what does not work and where. Do you have an account at the Gmail web site that you can log into, send mail from, and receive mail from your old, usual accounts in testing? Did you set up your local email client (Apple Mail, Euroda, or whatever) to function in IMAP mode with the proper incoming and outgoing server names? Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: end of life Apple computers
Go to the apple store on line and get Apple Certified Refurbished ; you can go play with newer one at the Apple Store in person and ask what is the difference with the previous model. On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:34, ll wrote: I have a G3 and G4 Apple desktop. My birthday is approaching and I would like to buy a newer apple computer. I have enquired about end of life desktops at Apple stores and am told they don't have any. Is this just a stock answer so you will buy a newer one? Where can I find an end of life computer? The new Mac Mini is promising but I would prefer the 20 inch Imac if possible. I am retired and so is my husband. I do not have unlimited funds.I also prefer to see the computer up close before I purchase it.I don't really trust computers sent through the mail. have a nice day Michael Koch troutcr...@ncwcom.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade Question
On Apr 2, 2009, at 12:39 PM, andre stark wrote: I have a very dependable G4 867 MHz machine that has A LOT of apps on it. However yo upgrade to FCP6 or even Imovie 6 I need Leopard on this machine. is it worth my while upgrading the processor and gfx card (about 500.00) or should I get a used G5 machine. Thanks Sincerely, André Stark Of all the replies I read I didn't see one which questioned why you can't install iMovie 6 on your machine. I have it on my MDD dual 867 and it runs fine. Naturally it will be faster with a faster system (ask Peter Haas about his tests times), but it does run and I edited most of my VHS movie collection on mine and burned DVD using iDVD. I believe FCP6 would require a faster processor however. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: end of life Apple computers
I'm not tech savvy, but am retired, too. I use a Yikes! to advantage. It's a robust machine older (manufactured earlier) than the ones you're looking at. I update as my needs change. It does everything I want, but has few of the unwanted (read: uninteresting to me) features that preoccupy later machines. But here's something about independently refurbished machines I didn't know when I bought my first Mac, a 6100. Independent refurbishers are sometimes reduced to mismatching components they put in. You may end up with innards composed of too many vintages for them to operate optimally together. At least, that's what I was told by the refurbisher I bought number one from when it didn't perform to specs. I only bought one other refurbished machine (a G3 beige) after that and kept it only 'til the Yikes! G3/G4 was released. Things to think about. Evan Evan Wilson 6302 Mountain Park Cove Austin, Texas 78731-2611 (512) 215-8543 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:37 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: Some providers (tds.net) are switching to gmail although you can download on one computer you will not be able to see on another. If they're switching to gmail, then you can use IMAP, and see all your mail on all your computers. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade Question
On Apr 2, 7:04 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: As a media student and semi pro I recommend the G5. As much of one as you can afford. The upgrades are nice and may work but the G5 has a better upgrade future. I agree on getting a better machine. Hard to justify spending half a grand on the old one. For a G5, do we include the liquid cooled models that are beginning to leak and corrode the innards? For the $500 or so, why not consider a used Mac Mini Intel machine, or even a new one? Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: resurrecting a hard drive?
USB 2.0 is backwards compatible with USB 1.1, but it will of course run at the much slower USB 1.1 speed. It takes a long time to copy 1 GB of data that way. It absolutely works on USB 1.1. I've used min on my G4 laptop. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade Question
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Doug Burton slu...@embarqmail.com wrote: On Apr 2, 2009, at 12:39 PM, andre stark wrote: I have a very dependable G4 867 MHz machine that has A LOT of apps on it. However yo upgrade to FCP6 or even Imovie 6 I need Leopard on this machine. is it worth my while upgrading the processor and gfx card (about 500.00) or should I get a used G5 machine. Thanks Sincerely, André Stark Of all the replies I read I didn't see one which questioned why you can't install iMovie 6 on your machine. I have it on my MDD dual 867 and it runs fine. Naturally it will be faster with a faster system (ask Peter Haas about his tests times), but it does run and I edited most of my VHS movie collection on mine and burned DVD using iDVD. I believe FCP6 would require a faster processor however. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a+subscr...@googlegroups.com ___ It was not a question of could it be done. Many would try to convince us that they run FCP on a classic XBox and prove it. The OP wanted advice on the most cost effective path for a future in a professional video business. Sticking with an old machine is asking for a world of pain and hurt in such an environment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I too am still using Eudora and, with the complexity of my mailbox organization and associated filters, returning to a three-pane window after reading each message would drive me crazy in short order. I am on a large number of mailing lists on different topics of interest. Each mailing list has its own mailbox and filters allocate new input messages to the appropriate mailboxes, allowing me complete control over what and how I read. Each mailbox has a time-ordered list of messages, collected by subject. I frequently keep interesting threaded discussions which do not take up much room since they are text-only. - Maretta At 5:31 AM -0700 04/02/09, Goody2 wrote: My only complaint about Mail (I am still using Eudora) is the inability to view each message in its own window without returning to the three-pane main window after each message. In Eudora, Thunderbird etc., if one opens a message in its own window, deleting it or moving to the next message will open the next message in its own window. In Mail, those actions return you to the three-pane window. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze with various applications being the active application. I go through the process of Force Quitting to get the computer back, and have now narrowed it down to Eudora, every time. Once I quit Eudora, I get control of the computer back. Of all the applications I've been running, Eudora is the only one that uses Rosetta/is not Intel. I've searched for an alternative that compares to the features I like with Eudora and nothing so far has come close. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Test Programs for an ATI Radeon 9800Pro in a G4
Anyone got some recommendations for anything to test my AGP video card? Its in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz. (ATI Radeon 9800Pro Mac Edition) AMD (ATI/Avid) suggested Googling to find 3D Benchmark applications ... I couldn't find anything I could easily acquire. Suggestions welcomed. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
Previously, at 5:54 pm -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden wrote: I too am still using Eudora and, with the complexity of my mailbox organization and associated filters, returning to a three-pane window after reading each message would drive me crazy in short order. I am on a large number of mailing lists on different topics of interest. Each mailing list has its own mailbox and filters allocate new input messages to the appropriate mailboxes, allowing me complete control over what and how I read. Each mailbox has a time-ordered list of messages, collected by subject. I frequently keep interesting threaded discussions which do not take up much room since they are text-only. Why can't anyone upgrade Eudora to be like Eudora? I have been using it since my Performa and I'll stop when they pry it out of my cold dead Mac! P. -- - Reaganomics proved what every farmer knows: The only thing that trickles down is fertilizer! - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Okay, once I've built my iWeb site, how do I post it?
I'm not opposed to fun. I'm not even averse to fun writing code. But time is a definite issue, including the time it takes to surmount a learning curve. Right now, I don't have enough of it. Thanks to all who've generously offered their advice. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Migration from G4 Tiger to new Mini Leopard
I have a new Mini and want to migrate user accounts from my G4 Sawtooth, running 10.4.11. I did not have a special 800/400 Firewire cable, so I thought I would connect the two computers by ethernet. (I also have Airport.) The Leopard Setup Assistant seems to demand that the old Mac also be running Leopard, which I do not want to do. (Technically, it is too slow; and I don't want to screw up anything in my wife's account.) It asks that I type a code number into the Migration Assistant on the old computer, and the Tiger Migration Assistant doesn't know anything about that. (a) Should I just go get the 800/400 Firewire cable and do it that way? Does that still work between Leopard and Tiger? (b) An Apple Help Desk person did not think it was possible to migrate accounts from one computer to another (much to my astonishment). She only talked about transferring files. I know how to transfer files. If I were to just transfer files and not use the Migration Assistant, which ones should I bring over? I know something about Libraries and such, but I would think that trying to move all the bits and pieces from one operating system to the other might have unintended consequences. And then there are the Applications.. I look to your gestalt wisdom. Wendell Mendell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: end of life Apple computers
I'd like to thank everyone who responded so quickly. I havea lot of research to do. --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com wrote: From: Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com Subject: Re: end of life Apple computers To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 1:12 PM I've bought a couple of computers from Mac of All Trades: http://www.macofalltrades.com/ They currently have a coupld of iMac Intel 20 modesl for under $700. Good luck, Dale Hoffman On Apr 3, 2009, at 12:34 PM, ll wrote: I have a G3 and G4 Apple desktop. My birthday is approaching and I would like to buy a newer apple computer. I have enquired about end of life desktops at Apple stores and am told they don't have any. Is this just a stock answer so you will buy a newer one? Where can I find an end of life computer? The new Mac Mini is promising but I would prefer the 20 inch Imac if possible. I am retired and so is my husband. I do not have unlimited funds.I also prefer to see the computer up close before I purchase it.I don't really trust computers sent through the mail. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Test Programs for an ATI Radeon 9800Pro in a G4
On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:36 PM, insightinmind wrote: Anyone got some recommendations for anything to test my AGP video card? Its in a QS 2002 Dual 1GHz. (ATI Radeon 9800Pro Mac Edition) AMD (ATI/Avid) suggested Googling to find 3D Benchmark applications ... I couldn't find anything I could easily acquire. Suggestions welcomed. What kind of tests? Diagnostics? Probably none for us mere users. Benchmarks? xBench CineBench Geekbench does not test the video card. Many games also have a demo or flyby mode that reports the frame rates and many people use that as a benchmark. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade Question
Thanks for the link, I've been looking for a hackintosh community, since I've just set up my Toshiba A205-S5803 to be a hackintoshi. Right now I'm running 10.5.6 :) On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Doug Burton slu...@embarqmail.com wrote: On Apr 2, 2009, at 12:39 PM, andre stark wrote: I have a very dependable G4 867 MHz machine that has A LOT of apps on it. However yo upgrade to FCP6 or even Imovie 6 I need Leopard on this machine. is it worth my while upgrading the processor and gfx card (about 500.00) or should I get a used G5 machine. Thanks Sincerely, André Stark Of all the replies I read I didn't see one which questioned why you can't install iMovie 6 on your machine. I have it on my MDD dual 867 and it runs fine. Naturally it will be faster with a faster system (ask Peter Haas about his tests times), but it does run and I edited most of my VHS movie collection on mine and burned DVD using iDVD. I believe FCP6 would require a faster processor however. HTH Just a message from Doug... http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a+subscr...@googlegroups.com ___ It was not a question of could it be done. Many would try to convince us that they run FCP on a classic XBox and prove it. The OP wanted advice on the most cost effective path for a future in a professional video business. Sticking with an old machine is asking for a world of pain and hurt in such an environment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
LCD Cleaning???
I love my 22 Samsung but I need to clean the screen without destroying anything. What's the best solution(s) to a messy situation? TIA JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Erase a drive to sell
I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them. Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be? Thanks, Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Test Programs for an ATI Radeon 9800Pro in a G4
On Apr 3, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: What kind of tests? Diagnostics? Probably none for us mere users. Benchmarks? xBench I use Xbench regularly ... sometimes, just to watch it spin ... CineBench I believe I tried that ... the motorcycle or robot redraw? not very informative to me. Of course, I didn't know exactly what I was looking for ... Geekbench does not test the video card. Many games also have a demo or flyby mode that reports the frame rates and many people use that as a benchmark. looking for 3d type tests I guess ... any particular game that might have a demo download? I'm not familiar with games on a mac ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 9:27 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze Turn off the sounds in Eudora. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Test Programs for an ATI Radeon 9800Pro in a G4
At 11:14 PM -0400 4/3/09, insightinmind posted: On Apr 3, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: What kind of tests? Diagnostics? Probably none for us mere users. Benchmarks? xBench I use Xbench regularly ... sometimes, just to watch it spin ... CineBench I believe I tried that ... the motorcycle or robot redraw? not very informative to me. Of course, I didn't know exactly what I was looking for ... Geekbench does not test the video card. Many games also have a demo or flyby mode that reports the frame rates and many people use that as a benchmark. looking for 3d type tests I guess ... any particular game that might have a demo download? I'm not familiar with games on a mac ... To stress the cpu (and I'd guess the compatibility of a video card?) I was told to create multiple instances of Apple's Chess (Command-D will duplicate what's needed) and then set the preferences for each for computer vs. computer. fwiw. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 11:24 PM -0400 4/3/09, Dan posted: At 9:27 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze Turn off the sounds in Eudora. Eudora has sounds??? Seriously, I'm not into being annoyed by applications notifying me when 'something' happens so I don't automatically download mail or have bouncing docks or noise makers. I check mail manually, and hate romantic comedies. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Okay, once I've built my iWeb site, how do I post it?
At 5:46 PM -0700 4/2/2009, tonycd wrote: Get a .mac membership? Any other way? If my ISP provides a page for free, is there a way for me to use it? What kind of web site is it? If it's just personal stuff, and relatively small, you can stash it on your ISP's server, or on a service like Dropbox. If it's large or commercial, you'll need to buy space somewhere. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Erase a drive to sell
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them. Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be? _ Please, Please NO! You would make them unusable. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Erase a drive to sell
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: I have a number of SCSI drives from Compaq servers ranging in size from 4.3 - 18.2 gb. I'm putting most of them up for sale and would like a quick and easy way to scramble whatever data may be on them. Will a magnet work OK and how heavy a magnet should it be? Thanks, Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Do you have a SCSI machine on which you can reformat them in a Mac or FAT32 format? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: resurrecting a hard drive?
On Apr 3, 9:18 am, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote: snip- Get one of these http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=2020-OTBcpc=SCH and stop tearing into systems to do this sort of thing. With this you can boot from a functioning Mac and work on these drives without don't bother trying to buy from geeks if you use a PO box. They consider everyone with a PO box as crooks and refuse to sell/ship to them. They can also be had from OtherWorldComputing, a good mac-only place (not always the cheapest but the best service I think and most knowledgeable). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
At 11:39 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 11:24 PM -0400 4/3/09, Dan posted: At 9:27 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze Turn off the sounds in Eudora. Eudora has sounds??? Seriously, I'm not into being annoyed by applications notifying me when 'something' happens so I don't automatically download mail or have bouncing docks or noise makers. I check mail manually, and hate romantic comedies. Eudora's alert sounds are broken in Tiger and known to cause deeper problems in Leopard. Quicktime hangs, freezes, etc. I'm not much for apps making noise either. I've got 'em all disabled, except for Adium. Gotta have the Duck. Long live the Duck! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What is the point of Mail.app??
I followed all the directions on the gmail site to set up the account via mail 3.0 using imap. I want to use the gmail account that I am using to write this email on. I have had this account for years. When I open my account through mail nothing happens. It doesn't start downloading my mail or anything even if i click get mail. It worked with pop. -Jonas On 4/3/09, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 11:39 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 11:24 PM -0400 4/3/09, Dan posted: At 9:27 PM -0400 4/3/2009, Steve R wrote: At 5:54 PM -0700 4/3/09, Maretta Holden posted: I too am still using Eudora I've noticed a problem with Eudora 6.2.4 since upgrading to Leopard. Occasionally I'll get screen freeze Turn off the sounds in Eudora. Eudora has sounds??? Seriously, I'm not into being annoyed by applications notifying me when 'something' happens so I don't automatically download mail or have bouncing docks or noise makers. I check mail manually, and hate romantic comedies. Eudora's alert sounds are broken in Tiger and known to cause deeper problems in Leopard. Quicktime hangs, freezes, etc. I'm not much for apps making noise either. I've got 'em all disabled, except for Adium. Gotta have the Duck. Long live the Duck! - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: resurrecting a hard drive?
On Apr 3, 2009, at 11:47 PM, tortoise wrote: On Apr 3, 9:18 am, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote: snip- Get one of these http://www.geeks.com/details.asp? invtid=2020-OTBcpc=SCH and stop tearing into systems to do this sort of thing. With this you can boot from a functioning Mac and work on these drives without don't bother trying to buy from geeks if you use a PO box. They consider everyone with a PO box as crooks and refuse to sell/ship to them. They can also be had from OtherWorldComputing, a good mac-only place (not always the cheapest but the best service I think and most knowledgeable). I meant to ask before ... is there any danger that a hard drive spinning at 7200rpm will flip out and take off across a room? shouldn't they be screwed down to something fixed? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: LCD Cleaning???
James E. Therrault wrote: I love my 22 Samsung but I need to clean the screen without destroying anything. What's the best solution(s) to a messy situation? TIA JT - Hello James, I was at a Dell Service Station recently, and I asked them what they used. They told me that they used a 50/50 mix of 90 proof alcohol and distilled water. I tried it on laptop screen that needed cleaning, and it worked fine, with no problems. Bruce Sugarberg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: resurrecting a hard drive?
At 1:38 AM -0400 4/4/09, insightinmind posted: On Apr 3, 2009, at 11:47 PM, tortoise wrote: On Apr 3, 9:18 am, Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net wrote: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=2020-OTBcpc=SCH I meant to ask before ... is there any danger that a hard drive spinning at 7200rpm will flip out and take off across a room? shouldn't they be screwed down to something fixed? No danger -- the drives stay where you put them. They are really quite sweet and useful because they'll do multiple devices. The only caveat... if you loan it to a friend to use on his drive, be there when he hooks it up or better yet, hook it up yourself. That's how mine all of a sudden stopped working and he didn't even take it out of the box. [not] Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
