Re: Beige G3, fitted with B/W Lobo
On 10 Apr 2009, at 22:38:40 PDT, Mullin9 wrote: I have a G3 266 Beige, with fried LoBo, and the working LoBo Pulled from the PowerMac G3 Blue n White, Will it fit in the G3 Beige casing,? Shoehorn, rubber hammer, apply freely. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: HELP!
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Apr 10, 2009, at 1:49 PM, McGrude wrote: Bruce, I'm surprised that you didn't suggest that his G5 is both dead and alive at the same time. What? he's got a cat in there?? Well THERE'S the problem :-P --__ What about the radioactive material? That'd scramble it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes Music Store issue
At 7:16 PM -0700 4/10/2009, M. Hammad wrote: I use a G4 MDD all day (10 hours) without any issues. OS 10.4.11 Since I've updated iTunes to 8.1 ( now 8.1.1), I have a severe slowdown of the Finder after I listen to 3 or 4 Podcasts (each about 30MB). It seems that the Finder loses control of the memory. I cannot get back to the Finder or Dock but Firefox continues to function normally I tried all that came to mind but found no other solution but reboot. Regular iTunes music does not seem to affect the Finder. Even for hours. But Podcasts do. I would appreciate any suggestions. I tried Onyx with a Restart. A simple Restart achieves the same result. On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Dan wrote: What does the Finder crash log say? On Apr 11, 2009, at 12:18 AM, M. Hammad wrote: Finder does not crash. When I move the mouse to the Desktop, iTunes remains active. The Dock remains invisible. I simply cannot do other tasks. Reinstall iTunes from here: http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ If this behavior continues, look in Activity Monitor to see what's happening. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
cable TV and a Mac Mini???
How do I hook up cable TV to a new Mac Mini as follows: Select your Mac mini. 2.0GHz : 120GB 2.0GHz : 320GB 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 1GB memory 2GB memory 120GB hard drive1 320GB hard drive1 8x double-layer SuperDrive 8x double-layer SuperDrive NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics Ships: Within 24hrs Ships: Within 24hrs Free Shipping Free Shipping $599.00 $799.00 as low as $14.00 a month as low as $19.00 a month Hopefully something from the coaxial cable that can connect to a gizmo that hooks up with the Apple USB port TIA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: cable TV and a Mac Mini???
Try one of the Elgato EyeTV devices (I recommend the eyetve plus). http://www.elgato.com/ It's like having Tivo. Their software (eyetv 3) gives you the ability to time shift effortlessly. Also allows connecting your vhs tape deck for digitizing old tapes. Connects by USB. Includes Toast. Good luck! Dale Hoffman On Apr 11, 2009, at 12:55 AM, kuikahi wrote: How do I hook up cable TV to a new Mac Mini as follows: Select your Mac mini. 2.0GHz : 120GB 2.0GHz : 320GB 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 1GB memory 2GB memory 120GB hard drive1 320GB hard drive1 8x double-layer SuperDrive 8x double-layer SuperDrive NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics Ships: Within 24hrs Ships: Within 24hrs Free Shipping Free Shipping $599.00 $799.00 as low as $14.00 a month as low as $19.00 a month Hopefully something from the coaxial cable that can connect to a gizmo that hooks up with the Apple USB port TIA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
question
Where can I find definitions for the various abbreviations that are used in List messages? For example: LoBo, MDD etc. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
On Apr 11, 2009, at 7:45 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Where can I find definitions for the various abbreviations that are used in List messages? For example: LoBo, MDD etc. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
On Apr 11, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Where can I find definitions for the various abbreviations that are used in List messages? Google on Apple model code names. This will give you, as the first hit: http://applemuseum.bott.org/sections/codenames.html http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3, fitted with B/W Lobo
The board will fit, I have 3 beige G3s with BW boards (+ ATX power supplies). The ports in the rear of the BW board do not line up with the beige case so you will need to cut away some of the plastic. The other problem is mounting the board so it doesn't contact the case bottom; if any part touches you won't get startup or, worse yet, you might damage the board. You need to break the mounting posts off the bottom of the beige case. I finally settled on some self-stick plastic feet and supermount tape from my local Radio Shack. The feet are non- conductive and stick directly to the bottom of the board, then a piece of supermount tape will stick the foot to the bottom of the beige case. Disclaimer (before someone tries to have me committed) I only did this because I inherited a bunch of beige G3s and Mac parts that were being tossed by a local business. Considering the time involved and cost of misc. parts to purchase it's probably more cost effective to pick up a used G4 off the Swap List or your local Craigslist. Having said that, I have great fun using my beige G3 desktop, Sonnet G4 500 CPU, BW mobo, 1 GB RAM, SATA card with 3 SATA drives in a RAID 0 array, and a flashed GeForce 6200/256 MB PCI video card (CI and QE supported!) OS X 10.4.11 On Apr 11, 1:38 am, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: Dear Sir I have a G3 266 Beige, with fried LoBo, and the working LoBo Pulled from the PowerMac G3 Blue n White, Will it fit in the G3 Beige casing,? / --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
A flashed Radeon 7000 with 64 MB RAM will give you a VGA port, then you can use any new LCD (you might need a HDMI - VGA adapter), they are very affordable now. Take the old CRT to a recycling center where it can be disposed of properly. On Apr 10, 2:44 pm, William Hatchell wmhatch...@gmail.com wrote: I've always used a large, heavy Apple CRT with my Beige G3 Minitower. Are there any other display options? Are the early Apple LCD displays compatible, and if so, what extra cables, adapters, etc. are needed? Thanks! Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
At 8:15 AM -0400 4/11/2009, Lawrence David Eden wrote: BW with Sonnet Upgrade to 500MHz G4. I recently installed Kensington MouseWorks 3.0 on my BW. It was a re-installation of the software because my mouse was acting strangely. Strangely? After the installation, the installer wanted me to restart my Mac, which I didbut the Mac would not re-start. I got the chime, but my monitor stayed dark. Could be a cache rebuild issue, or something to do with your upgraded processor. Can't tell from the info you've supplied. Check your system log. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Some days you just need a good laff.
Someone brought this to my attention. If you download the What Price Cool? pdf, be sure to put down your beverage before reading it. Your keyboard and display will be most appreciative. ROFLMAO. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/11/microsoft_flames_macs/ - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
On 11-04-2009 17:41, Dan, dantear...@gmail.com, wrote: LoBo = someone's invented term. Should be MoBo or Motherboard. Or may be: LoBo = LogicBoard. The more technical name of the object. MoBo = MotherBoard is the more popular name. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Next problem migrating from G4 Tiger to Mini Leopard
On Apr 10, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Al Poulin wrote: On Apr 9, 7:45 pm, Wendell Mendell wmend...@mac.com wrote: I posted earlier about migrating user accounts from my G4 Sawtooth, running 10.4.11 to my new Mini running Leopard. I solved my first problem by buying a 800/400 Firewire cable and now can bring up the Sawtooth in target mode. However I have two hard disks in the G4, and my system is on Device 2. Target mode only mounts Device 1 on the Desktop of the Mini This happened to me with my G4 Quicksilver with two disk drives, my primary drive running 10.3.9 Panther. Making the QS the target from a then new G4 iBook running Tiger and then from an aluminum iMac running Leopard gave me only the three volumes on my secondary QS drive. My work around was to be running the Quicksilver and making the new machines the target. I was able to do the quick transfers of the Users folder. Migration Assistant was useless. I copied my email folders to the desktop of the new machines along with the mail preferences, as previously described in an earlier thread. http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/aabee6132bfc9e3e?hl=en Then I imported the old mail into the new machines' Mail, along with the preferences which gave me the email accounts. I also captured my Safari bookmarks from the old preferences. Thinking back on this, I probably could have copied the Users folder from the QS primary drive to one of the secondary drive's volumes and let the new machines use the secondary volume. Al Poulin What I ended up doing was to clone my system partition to an external Firewire drive and use the clone with Migration Assistant. I did that before I saw the suggestion about unplugging the Device 1, which I might have done instead. I had the previously described problems with Mail and used the Apple support suggestion to prevent the app from ignoring Quit. Then I followed the recipe posted earlier here to reconstruct a slew of folders. I may have misunderstood the instructions and created empty folders into which to move the imported emails. I could have just moved the imported folders each out of the import box without creating the empty folders beforehand. It was my wife's mail account which has thousands of (not all necessary) messages. I also managed not to loose any new messages in the transition. I have had a couple of odd and disconcerting freezes with Leopard, but things seem to be basically OK. My scanner works and I have found all the printers. I now have to root out legacy files in obscure places that might create conflicts. Thanks for the help. I now regret that I have an Intel and cannot access the collected wisdom on this list! Wendell Mendell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Cable routing in MDD
Getting this sata controller card has left me with one question however... where to rout these sata cables? is there a good, better, best way to rout them to the hard drive carriers? can I rout them under the motherboard around the edge without problems? Jeff Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
i've been using a ViewSonic 930m 19 LCD monitor and an ATI Radeon 9200 video card with my Beige G3 (500 MHz G4 processor) for about two years now and love 'em. Quartz Extreme is not supported, but I have had no problems. The combination works well in both Tiger (10.4.11) and OS 9.2.2. I have the RAM maxed out to 768 MB. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Display Options with Beige G3?
On Apr 11, 2009, at 3:02 PM, skyking...@verizon.net wrote: Quartz Extreme is not supported Quartz Extreme is enabled with PCI Extreme 3.1 available from MacUpdate: http://www.macupdate.com/download.php/8979/pciextreme3.1.zip It will speed up things more than the G4 CPU. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cable routing in MDD
On Apr 11, 2009, at 12:45 PM, MacGuy wrote: is there a good, better, best way to rout them to the hard drive carriers? can I rout them under the motherboard around the edge without problems? SATA cables may not be tightly bent. Actually, they should not be bent at all, although a shallow bend is usually OK. In particular, 90 degree bends are verboten! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
At 21:18 +0200 4/11/09, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 11-04-2009 17:41, Dan, dantear...@gmail.com, wrote: LoBo = someone's invented term. Should be MoBo or Motherboard. Or may be: LoBo = LogicBoard. The more technical name of the object. MoBo = MotherBoard is the more popular name. Hmm. I can't resist it. In Washington DC mother is well known to be only a half of a word. Should the acronym be MFB ? -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
Doug McNutt wrote: At 21:18 +0200 4/11/09, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: On 11-04-2009 17:41, Dan, dantear...@gmail.com, wrote: LoBo = someone's invented term. Should be MoBo or Motherboard. Or may be: LoBo = LogicBoard. The more technical name of the object. MoBo = MotherBoard is the more popular name. Hmm. I can't resist it. In Washington DC mother is well known to be only a half of a word. Should the acronym be MFB ? Perhaps it is MFB for all the Windoze users! Dan II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
On 4/11/09 8:41 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com Broadcast into the ether: LoBo = someone's invented term. Should be MoBo or Motherboard. Actually I disagree. The reason it is called a Motherboard is that originally you installed a Daughter card on it (oldskool yo). When was the last time you heard the term Daughtercard used? Now you install PCI or PCI-X etc. cards. The Term Logic Board is more accurate as that is where most of the logic related processes are performed. But basically in the PC world it is a Motherboard and in the Mac world it is a Logicboard. Ultimately what will it be called? PCB? Printed Circuit Board (too generic)? Processor socket board? It's anybody's guess. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Some days you just need a good laff.
Dan wrote: Someone brought this to my attention. If you download the What Price Cool? pdf, be sure to put down your beverage before reading it. Your keyboard and display will be most appreciative. ROFLMAO. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/11/microsoft_flames_macs/ - Dan. PeeCee users simply cannot divorce themselves from an over abundance of dillusion... JT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Cable routing in MDD
At 1:15 PM -0700 4/11/09, PeterH posted: On Apr 11, 2009, at 12:45 PM, MacGuy wrote: is there a good, better, best way to rout them to the hard drive carriers? can I rout them under the motherboard around the edge without problems? SATA cables may not be tightly bent. Actually, they should not be bent at all, although a shallow bend is usually OK. In particular, 90 degree bends are verboten! ... unless you have the cables with the preformed 90 degrees at the connectors ;-) Don't get too concerned about neating up the SATA cables, let them loop in such a way that as you close the door you know they aren't getting pinched. I deliberately let them loop as I make the second connection. The joy of SATA cables is they are much less likely to inhibit air flow that the flat cables can do. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
On 11-04-2009 17:41, Dan, dantear...@gmail.com, wrote: LoBo = someone's invented term. Should be MoBo or Motherboard. Or may be: LoBo = LogicBoard. The more technical name of the object. MoBo = MotherBoard is the more popular name. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: cable TV and a Mac Mini???
On Apr 11, 7:18 am, Dale Hoffman dh...@margnat.com wrote: Try one of the Elgato EyeTV devices (I recommend the eyetve plus). http://www.elgato.com/ It's like having Tivo. Their software (eyetv 3) gives you the ability to time shift effortlessly. Also allows connecting your vhs tape deck for digitizing old tapes. Connects by USB. Includes Toast. About a month ago when I checked, I found an obscure FAQ item at the Eye TV web site indicating that it is not compatible with Verizon FiOS. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mirror a drive
On Apr 11, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Dan wrote: At 3:52 PM +1000 4/11/2009, Brian Christmas wrote: To ensure that the HP printer was causing the problem we re-installed it on AppleTalk. Sure enough the server access slowed down again. Un-installed printer - still slow Turned off AppleTalk - still slow Re-booted - still slow. What else is running AppleTalk? What other traffic is on that LAN? Oh my, that dredges up horrible memories of the days when we were routing Appletalk (Ethertalk) across campus. Whenever they had to work on the routers, we had to run around and shut down every Appletalk device, because the first device to wake up on an Appletalk network is the network master, and seeds the network ID's for the rest of the devices. We had to make sure the router was the first device to wake up or face endless slowdowns and the router wouldn't route until we tracked down the rogue Mac Plus or LaserbleepingWriter that had woken up first and said, in their finest Al Haig impression, I'm in charge here!, turned it off, broke the fingers of the user who had ignored the sysadmin's orders, and rebooted the routeragain. This fun routine made Macs EVER so popular. The MOMENT that Appletalk over TCP/IP worked, we stopped routing Ethertalk, and cheers erupted all across campus. I think we had a New Year's-like countdown for the router update. :-) It might be possible you've got something like that going on. Shut down everything that speaks Appletalk, and if you have a server or router that's speaking 'Appletalk', make sure it's the *first* device like that your turn on; otherwise just find the fastest Mac speaking Appletalk in the network and make sure it's first. There's a nifty application called Trawler (or Trawl, I forget, this was the mid 90's) that will diagram and identify devices on Appletalk networks, but it's been a dogs age since I've seen it in the wild. Possibly the Wayback Machine may be harboring a copy... -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: question
On Apr 11, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: Hmm. I can't resist it. In Washington DC mother is well known to be only a half of a word. Should the acronym be MFB ? Only in certain cases; I'll wager that's Bill Connelly's description of his right now :-) -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sonnet sata controller PCI to Sata Optical drive ?
On Apr 11, 2009, at 9:55 AM, MacGuy wrote: Can I use my Sonnet sata controller pci card connections for sata optical drive as well? and if so, can I use the same sata cables for power data? Thanks, Jeff Absolutely, SATA is SATA. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Airport Extreme Card?
Hello All, I have upgraded to a G5 2.5 Dualie w/ 4GB RAM / 2 -320 GB HD’s and a 500 GB external HD / NETSCAPE 9.0.0.6 / OS X.5.4. I am currently connected to the internet with a Linksys WRT54G Wireless Router, however the G5 is using a wired port connection as it has no Airport Card. Someone above my pay grade please advise on the advantages of and which type of card to buy / install. Thank you, Dan II --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---