Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?

2009-06-24 Thread Ralph Green

Howdy,
  As Peter said, the connectors for 2.5 and 3.5 SATA drives are the
same.  But, the power draw is almost always a lot more on the 3.5
drives.  A single USB port can supply 2.5 watts(.5 amps at 5V).  For
example, a Seagate 3.5 ST3500320AS 500 GB takes .65 amps at 5V and .42
ams at 12V.  USB does not supply 12V at all.  2.5 drives are almost
always 5V only and take around 2.5 watts(I've seen up to 5 watts).  So,
a 2.5 drive may work and a 3.5 almost never will.  Some higher power
2.5 drives need power from 2 USB ports.  I have burned out a USB port
from drawing too much power.
Good luck,
Ralph  

On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 19:55 -0400, John Martz wrote:

 If the 2.5 drive works with USB, then I would think there is no
 problem with USB. In other words, I'd expect the SATA-USB logic to
 either work or not work.



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Re: 9150/120 Monitor Dark + Network

2009-06-24 Thread Ralph Green

Howdy,
  I don't know anything about the first problem.  Networking the
computers should be possible.  The 9150 only comes with an Apple AAUI
connector for a network, by default.  There were Nubus cards to supply
CAT5(CAT3, really or 10 base T, if you prefer).  I found someone selling
them at http://www.welovemacs.com/m0417lla.html for $30.  I don't know
the seller, and I remember someone offering a Nubus ethernet card on the
swap list recently, so check those options.
 The 8600 and 9600 come with ethernet connectors.  So, a little cabling
and a switch and you should be OK.  Ideally, you would hook your ATT
modem to a router and that would then talk to your other machines.
There are several good reasons for this.
  I know I used OS 8.6 on a Beige G3 through a router like this, but I
don't remember much about configuring OS8 and OS9 network stacks.
Others here can help with that, I think.
Good luck,
Ralph

On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 03:30 -0500, Stephen Maltz wrote:

 
 Problem #2 HARDWIRED NETWORK SETUP OR REGAIN EMAIL CAPABILITIES
 
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Re: sata 2.5 plugged into a 3.5 sata enclosure?

2009-06-24 Thread John Martz

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Ralph Greensfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  As Peter said, the connectors for 2.5 and 3.5 SATA drives are the
 same.  But, the power draw is almost always a lot more on the 3.5
 drives.  A single USB port can supply 2.5 watts(.5 amps at 5V).

My understanding when I read Jeff's note was that his enclosure was
powered from an external 5v  12v AC-DC power supply, not from the
USB port.

What was confusing to me about Jeff's situation is that apparently the
2.5 drive worked with USB (and I assumed also with eSATA ... though
he may not have checked this).

However, when he put the 3.5 drive into the enclosure it did not work
with USB but it *did* work via eSATA.

If it was strictly an enclosure power supply issue then I would expect
the 3.5 drive to never work in the enclosure. Or USB to not work for
either drive.

I can't come up with a good rational for why the 3.5 drive would work
with eSATA but *not* work with USB, other than possibly the 3.5 drive
exceeded some GB capacity limit of the SATA-USB adapter/converter??

Oh, well. Maybe it's gremlins? Makes as much sense to me as anything
else at this point.

-irrational john

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Re: 9150/120 Monitor Dark + Network

2009-06-24 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jun 24, 2009, at 4:49 AM, Ralph Green wrote:


 Howdy,
  I don't know anything about the first problem.  Networking the
 computers should be possible.  The 9150 only comes with an Apple AAUI
 connector for a network, by default.  There were Nubus cards to supply
 CAT5(CAT3, really or 10 base T, if you prefer).

This is cheaper http://www.welovemacs.com/aaui-10t.html It's an  
Asante AAUI- 10-BaseT transceiver.

I originally went looking for the Farallon Etherwave models, but  
they're really pricey these days.


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Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread tonycd

Hi. Just upgraded a Blue  White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768
RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4.

The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11
Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X
appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS
X on this disk.

?!
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Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote:


 Hi. Just upgraded a Blue  White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768
 RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4.

 The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11
 Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X
 appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS
 X on this disk.


Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel  
and PPC versions.

Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net?

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Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread tonycd

Specifically chose the PPC version.

Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a
wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's
AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think
maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN).


On Jun 24, 2:01 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote:



  Hi. Just upgraded a Blue  White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768
  RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4.

  The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11
  Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X
  appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS
  X on this disk.

 Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel
 and PPC versions.

 Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net?

 --
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
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Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread tonycd

Specifically chose the PPC version.

Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a
wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's
AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think
maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN).


On Jun 24, 2:01 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote:



  Hi. Just upgraded a Blue  White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768
  RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4.

  The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11
  Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X
  appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS
  X on this disk.

 Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel
 and PPC versions.

 Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net?

 --
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 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

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Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread tonycd

Specifically chose the PPC version.

Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a
wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's
AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think
maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN).


On Jun 24, 2:01 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote:



  Hi. Just upgraded a Blue  White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768
  RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4.

  The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11
  Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X
  appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS
  X on this disk.

 Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel
 and PPC versions.

 Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net?

 --
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

 Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
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Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread Kris Tilford

 On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote:

 Hi. Just upgraded a Blue  White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768
 RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4.

 The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11
 Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X
 appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install  
 OS
 X on this disk.

 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edureplied:

 Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel
 and PPC versions.

 tonycd replied:

 Specifically chose the PPC version.

 Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net?

 Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a
 wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's
 AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card --
 I think maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek  
 Wireless LAN).

Did you open System PreferenceNetwork to be sure the Realtek wireless  
port has been detected?

You may need to reinstall the Realtek software, and also if the  
connection requires a wireless utility you may need to launch the  
utility manually if it's not automatically launching.

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Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread tonycd

Specifically chose the PPC version.

Don't have the net -- it's a kids' computer, and it's connected via a
wireless card (non-Apple, from Headgap) that taps into the house's
AirPort network. The software's not recognizing the card -- I think
maybe the update itself kayoed the software (Realtek Wireless LAN).


On Jun 24, 2:01 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
 On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:40 AM, tonycd wrote:



  Hi. Just upgraded a Blue  White G3 (Radeon PCI 7000, 1.0 GB G3, 768
  RAM) from 10.3 to 10.4.

  The upgrade went seamlessly. But when I followed up with a 10.4.11
  Combo Updater from CD (freshly burned from Apple.com), the red X
  appeared over my hard drive with a message that you can't install OS
  X on this disk.

 Are you positive you got the PPC combo updater? There are both Intel
 and PPC versions.

 Any reason you're not letting Software Update do it over the net?

 --
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group

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Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread tonycd

I'll check the Network preference pane. Later today, when I get back
there.

I agree about re-installing the Realtek client software. Of course, if
it doesn't run under Tiger, I guess I'm in deeper doo-doo than I
figured...but let's cross that doo-doo bridge when we come to it.


 Did you open System PreferenceNetwork to be sure the Realtek wireless
 port has been detected?

 You may need to reinstall the Realtek software, and also if the
 connection requires a wireless utility you may need to launch the
 utility manually if it's not automatically launching.
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Re: Smurf won't let me install Tiger updates

2009-06-24 Thread tonycd

I'll check the Network preference pane. Later today, when I get back
there.

I agree about re-installing the Realtek client software. Of course, if
it doesn't run under Tiger, I guess I'm in deeper doo-doo than I
figured...but let's cross that doo-doo bridge when we come to it.


 Did you open System PreferenceNetwork to be sure the Realtek wireless
 port has been detected?

 You may need to reinstall the Realtek software, and also if the
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 utility manually if it's not automatically launching.
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Re: Strange Boot Problem

2009-06-24 Thread dc

What kind of video card is installed? The boot delay sounds  alot like
what happens with some flashed pc Nvidia cards.

On Jun 24, 6:03 pm, Bruce bsugarb...@core.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I was given an MDD to fix up.  The MDD came with no hard drive,
 no memory, and no PRAM battery.  I took a hard drive, memory,
 and a PRAM battery from a good working QS, and put it in the MDD
 to try it out.  The MDD booted and ran normally.  I then put
 everything back in the QS, and ordered replacements from the LEMSWAP list.

 When the hard drive and memory came, I put them in the MDD,
 booted off of my Tiger DVD, and installed 10.4 on the hard drive.
 Then I installed all of the updates through Java 9.  After all
 of this was done, the MDD still booted and ran normally.

 Today the new PRAM battery arrived.  I put it in the MDD, which
 up until now had not had a PRAM battery in it.  I then powered
 on the MDD, it chimed, and then did nothing for what seemed a
 long time, with nothing showing on the monitor, then suddenly
 started.  I removed the PRAM battery, and started the machine
 without it.  The MDD acted exactly the same, which really made
 me wonder.  So, I put the PRAM battery back in the MDD.

 I shut the MDD down, then rebooted, holding down the Command-
 Option-P-R keys until the MDD chimed a 2nd time.  After this,
 the MDD acted exactly the same as before I did this.

 I shut the MDD down, then rebooted, holding down the Command-
 Option-O-F keys until I got the Open Firmware prompt.  I typed:

 reset-nvram     (return)        received ok
 set-defaults    (return)        received ok
 reset-all       (return)        MDD rebooted.

 This also made no difference.  I tried different memory - this made
 no difference.

 I timed it.  I press the power button, the chime sounds, the screen
 remains blank.  Nothing further happens.  Exactly 2 minutes later,
 (something times out, allowing the boot to resume?), the screen goes
 grey, next the Apple appears, next the spinning wheel under the Apple
 appears and spins.  Suddenly the blue screen appears, and the boot
 finishes quickly.  Once booted, the MDD acts normally.

 Suggestions anyone?

 Thank you,

 Bruce Sugarberg
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Re: Arrrggh! G4 dies from just sitting there?

2009-06-24 Thread dc

On Jun 18, 4:46 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote:

 You are telling me... that THE Bruce Johnson doesn't have a dozen or so
 Macs sitting around that he could pirate a battery from, at least long
 enough to fire it up.

Bruce Johnson, you just dropped out of the top ten on my Heroes list,
now you're down there just above the List Nanny who demands bottom
posting (oh, no I didn't start THAT again!). One more hint of human
frailty and you'll drop to the bottom of my list, alongside Rafael
I've never used steroids Palmeiro.
But seriously, I have a MDD that does the same thing. Try unplugging
the power cord for 10 seconds then plugging it in and immediately
pressing the power startup button. It starts my MDD every time. I
suspect I have a totally dead PRAM battery but it's easier to unplug
it than order and install a $4.99 PRAM battery from OWC.
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Re: Strange Boot Problem

2009-06-24 Thread Bruce



dc wrote:
 What kind of video card is installed? The boot delay sounds a lot like
 what happens with some flashed pc Nvidia cards.
==
Hello,

The video card is the stock video card that the MDD shipped with from Apple.

Bruce S.

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Re: Strange Boot Problem

2009-06-24 Thread insightinmind


On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Bruce wrote:


 Len Gerstel wrote:

 On Jun 24, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Bruce wrote:
 snip

 I timed it.  I press the power button, the chime sounds, the screen
 remains blank.  Nothing further happens.  Exactly 2 minutes later,
 (something times out, allowing the boot to resume?), the screen goes
 grey, next the Apple appears, next the spinning wheel under the  
 Apple
 appears and spins.  Suddenly the blue screen appears, and the boot
 finishes quickly.  Once booted, the MDD acts normally.



Have you tried starting up with cmd-V (I believe that's right) to see  
what the log displays? where it is hanging up at Startup? or just  
look at the system log to see where the 2 minute gap is?

Does it do a RAM check at Startup, when a new PRAM has been cmd-opt-P- 
R'ed?

Is the startup disk ATA connection good?

Have you re-seated the AGP Video card and maybe PCI cards? or removed  
any PCI cards? blown out any dust in the slots?

Is the PRAM battery inserted in the right direction?

Does it have Airport connected? well?

Really just Guessing ...

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Digital Camera

2009-06-24 Thread Stephen Conrad

So far this is the best I can do with finding how to get pics off this camera.
I did download the .pdf but it only mentions having a PC to use it.
Any ideas?

http://www.camerahacker.com/Forums/DisplayComments.php?file=Digital%20Camera/Sakar/

Sakar_16380_on_Mac
Sakar 16380 on Mac

My daughter got this camera for x-mas, but I have a mac and the
software is not compatible. My machine won't even see it as a drive,
is there some way of getting this thing to work?

Ben
Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:30:42 +

Ha. Good luck. I've got a PC (running WinXP) and can't even get it to
work on that.

Wesley
Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:57:19 +

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Re: Digital Camera

2009-06-24 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jun 24, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 So far this is the best I can do with finding how to get pics off  
 this camera.
 I did download the .pdf but it only mentions having a PC to use it.
 Any ideas?

We went through this once before back in 2007. These are the Crayola/ 
Disney kids cameras and don't seem to have Mac drivers. Since the  
cameras have no removable memory card, there isn't an easy solution.  
Macam has recently added support for some webcams by the same  
manufacturer Sakar, but I don't think these are digital still cameras,  
but rather webcams. Still, installing Macam 0.9.2 couldn't hurt, and  
adds functionality to your Mac, so I'd go ahead and install Macam  
0.9.2 and see what happens, but I don't think it will help?

Macam 0.9.2:
http://webcam-osx.sourceforge.net/downloads.html

Also, if you look in System ProfilerUSB what device ID # and vendor  
ID # does it show? (I think the vendor ID # should be 10026 decimal or  
0x2770 hex, but don't know the device ID?)

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