Re: iTunes 9 on a G4
At 8:16 PM -0400 9/25/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Please remember to post *plain text* to these LEM Lists. [HTML, fonting, *and* colors removed] On 9/25/09 9:03 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.comdantear...@gmail.com sent iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall not that much slower than previous releases. If you need the latest store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to 8.2.1 for now. Any place online that still offers a download of 8.2.1? I found 8.2 at http://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-machttp://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-mac But no 8.2.1 - oldapps.com is defunct on iTunes. It is rarely a good idea to download software from anywhere other than its official repository. Failing to do so is how people got infected with the trojan, burried in the pirated iWorks, back in January. Like all things iTunes, start at http://www.apple.com/itunes Click on the download button. Scroll down, past the Requirements section. Notice that iTunes 9 is for PowerPC G4 or better - so click on the G3 Mac Users link. That will take you to an official page that offers version 8.2.1. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Please unsubscribe me
Jim's message appeared like this to me X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/157.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:23:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Snyder jimsnydermu...@yahoo.com Subject: Please unsubscribe me To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0-1393998871-1253978639=:44879 Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com X-Google-Loop: groups Mailing-List: list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com; contact g3-5-list+ow...@googlegroups.com List-Id: g3-5-list.googlegroups.com List-Post: mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com List-Help: mailto:g3-5-list+h...@googlegroups.com List-Unsubscribe: http://googlegroups.com/group/g3-5-list/subscribe, mailto:g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com With no message body - all headers. Apparently YahooMailClient is suppressing the headers that would make it easy for Jim to follow the suggestions. It goes on all the time and I blame the mail programs that are making a mess of things. Does the Yahoo client have a preference to show headers? Jim's empty message also came through in HTML format. Why in the world would a mail client add HTML headers to a blank message? More to the point, why would Google's list software pass such things on? Jim's message was sent by Yahoo services. Is there something competitive going on there? -- -- Life begins at ovulation. Ladies should endeavor to get every young life fertilized. -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another
On 9/24/09 10:42 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I know someone who DID add memory to a running G4 tower. Amazingly it all lived. It crashed immediately, but on a restart it all worked. The beauty of macs! I wonder what would happen on a PC? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Please unsubscribe me
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey, You have to go to googles website under g3-5-list to unsubscribe... CoolKat The G list ship is starting to list to port. Check the life rafts. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 26, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Nestamicky wrote: Bruce, I agree with you partially. But I also think this problem is caused by Flash 10 on older machines. I think Youtube and other such sites just keep moving along with flash. Actually, no. The 'flash' files served up by Youtube and the like are .mp4 and .flv files; only the embedded player is dependent on Flash 10. Once downloaded by Cosmopod, the resulting files can be played by Quicktime Player Along with that indispensable plug-in Perian (why Apple just doesn't include Perian as a standard part of QT I'll never know...it's all open source.) Perian DOES require 10.4, though; VLC has versions that work with OS X back to 10.1. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 on a G4
On 9/26/09 2:10 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent At 8:16 PM -0400 9/25/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Please remember to post *plain text* to these LEM Lists. [HTML, fonting, *and* colors removed] On 9/25/09 9:03 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.comdantear...@gmail.com sent iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall not that much slower than previous releases. If you need the latest store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to 8.2.1 for now. Any place online that still offers a download of 8.2.1? I found 8.2 at http://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-machttp://en.k ioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-mac But no 8.2.1 - oldapps.com is defunct on iTunes. It is rarely a good idea to download software from anywhere other than its official repository. Failing to do so is how people got infected with the trojan, burried in the pirated iWorks, back in January. Like all things iTunes, start at http://www.apple.com/itunes Click on the download button. Scroll down, past the Requirements section. Notice that iTunes 9 is for PowerPC G4 or better - so click on the G3 Mac Users link. That will take you to an official page that offers version 8.2.1. - Dan. Hi Dan, Thanks for the notes, and suggestions. I saw this a while back, but was concerned with the for G3 descriptive, which would certainly rule out my G5. Is that just a generic target-use moniker, where it does not matter on what machine it's installed on? Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 on a G4
This has me worried.I use a G4.Apple keeps updating iTunes all the time.I have a LOT of stuff in my iTunes,some I can't download again,I don't want to lose access to it. Roger --- On Sat, 9/26/09, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net Subject: Re: iTunes 9 on a G4 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 1:57 PM On 9/26/09 2:10 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent At 8:16 PM -0400 9/25/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Please remember to post *plain text* to these LEM Lists. [HTML, fonting, *and* colors removed] On 9/25/09 9:03 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.comdantear...@gmail.com sent iTunes 9 is slow on ALL Macs, regardless of their speed, but overall not that much slower than previous releases. If you need the latest store features, get it. Otherwise it's probably worth sticking to 8.2.1 for now. Any place online that still offers a download of 8.2.1? I found 8.2 at http://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-machttp://en.k ioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-241-itunes-for-mac But no 8.2.1 - oldapps.com is defunct on iTunes. It is rarely a good idea to download software from anywhere other than its official repository. Failing to do so is how people got infected with the trojan, burried in the pirated iWorks, back in January. Like all things iTunes, start at http://www.apple.com/itunes Click on the download button. Scroll down, past the Requirements section. Notice that iTunes 9 is for PowerPC G4 or better - so click on the G3 Mac Users link. That will take you to an official page that offers version 8.2.1. - Dan. Hi Dan, Thanks for the notes, and suggestions. I saw this a while back, but was concerned with the for G3 descriptive, which would certainly rule out my G5. Is that just a generic target-use moniker, where it does not matter on what machine it's installed on? Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On Sep 26, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Roger Kulp wrote: I use a G4.I have problems all the time with YouTube rebuffering.It seems to have only happened in the last month or so.Can you download a video from YouTube ? Cosmopod http://www.cocoamug.com is one way. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
On 9/26/09 3:12 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Can you download a video from YouTube ? And another way that's free is use Firefox and get the VideoDownload Helper plugin. It's really easy to use. It starts to motion if a website has content it can download, click on it when it does it motion and within minutes, secs, hours, depending on your network speed, you'd have the video on your drive. It also, I think, does automatic conversion to avi, and other formats. So, you'd for sure be able to play the resulting video in lots of other players. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My G4 seems to be running slow
Can you download a video from YouTube ? Not legally, I don't believe. In Safari, once the YouTube video has started playing, open the Activity window and scroll down to where the video clip is shown to be downloading/playing. Double click that, and a blank Safari window will open, and the clip will start downloading to your Desktop, or wherever you have told Safari to download to. You can then see it happening in the Download window. But you didn't hear it from me ... ; ) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 on a G4
At 3:57 PM -0400 9/26/2009, Dana Collins wrote: On 9/26/09 2:10 AM, Dan of dantear...@gmail.com sent Like all things iTunes, start at http://www.apple.com/itunes Click on the download button. Scroll down, past the Requirements section. Notice that iTunes 9 is for PowerPC G4 or better - so click on the G3 Mac Users link. That will take you to an official page that offers version 8.2.1. Thanks for the notes, and suggestions. I saw this a while back, but was concerned with the for G3 descriptive, which would certainly rule out my G5. Is that just a generic target-use moniker, where it does not matter on what machine it's installed on? AFAIK, it is the normal build - the same offered via SU originally. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 on a G4
At 1:39 PM -0700 9/26/2009, Roger Kulp wrote: This has me worried. I use a G4.Apple keeps updating iTunes all the time.I have a LOT of stuff in my iTunes,some I can't download again,I don't want to lose access to it. this? You can run iTunes 9 on a G4, so just use iTunes 9. If you're worried Apple is going to screw you, then it won't matter what version of iTunes you run - you're always going to have that fear. The only soln there is to buy real CDs and DVDs... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: memory placement
At 5:31 PM -0400 9/25/2009, Al boone wrote: I have a power mac G5 2.0 and was wondering if it make any difference where you place different memory sizes. I have 2x512 installed first and then I added 2x1gb for a total of 3gb. Will it make any difference if I move the 2x512 in the first slots or not? TIA, elbert. Just so long as the dimms are installed as matched pairs, it won't make any diff. Remember to always be properly grounded when foolin around inside your Mac... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: firefox/t-bird/apple menu bar issue issues
At 8:47 AM -0600 9/26/2009, Nestamicky wrote: On 9/22/09 7:40 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: That build page has very specific PPC builds listed, not a general PPC. A G3, 2 G4s (for 7400 and 7450 based chips), a G5 and an intel build. Since the main Firefox community does not currently build or develop for OS9, there are no 601, 603 or 604 builds. I think I will go back to the RPM builds if I can find Minefield for G4. RPM's are only *release* builds. On Furby's page, you will see there are 3.6 and 3.7 builds. Version 3.6 is Namoroka - the next thing to be released. 3.7 is Minefield, the developer trunk. Note that Minefield now requires OS X 10.5 or better. The Furbism builds refuse to work for me. One version worked for a short while, and I updated it last night. But when restarted it crashed, repeatedly. I uninstalled it, reinstalled the older un updated version, and that one kept crashing as well. Is there a Minefield for G4? refuse to work is a bit too generic to help diagnose the problem. How can I completely uninstall FF from my machine now? I fear some files are laid back that may corrupt future installs. Drag the app to the trash. Drag the Mozilla and Firefox folders from ~/Library to the trash. eg: ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: memory placement
tks for the info, i'll leave it along/ On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 5:31 PM -0400 9/25/2009, Al boone wrote: I have a power mac G5 2.0 and was wondering if it make any difference where you place different memory sizes. I have 2x512 installed first and then I added 2x1gb for a total of 3gb. Will it make any difference if I move the 2x512 in the first slots or not? TIA, elbert. Just so long as the dimms are installed as matched pairs, it won't make any diff. Remember to always be properly grounded when foolin around inside your Mac... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 on a G4
On Sep 26, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Dan wrote: If you're worried Apple is going to screw you, then it won't matter what version of iTunes you run - you're always going to have that fear. The only soln there is to buy real CDs and DVDs... Or any song out of Apple's catalog now...it's all DRM-free, has been for quite a while. AAC is an open, standard format. http://tinyurl.com/d2uex And let us be extremely clear..it's NEVER been APPLE that could screw us, it was the music publishers who forced DRM on us. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes 9 on a G4
At 6:14 PM -0700 9/26/2009, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Sep 26, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Dan wrote: If you're worried Apple is going to screw you, then it won't matter what version of iTunes you run - you're always going to have that fear. The only soln there is to buy real CDs and DVDs... Or any song out of Apple's catalog now...it's all DRM-free, has been for quite a while. AAC is an open, standard format. And let us be extremely clear..it's NEVER been APPLE that could screw us, it was the music publishers who forced DRM on us. WRT DRM itself, I agree. But Apple's control of said DRM (?Fairplay?) will leave you with unplayable music if the iTunes Store should be closed. Really tho, I wasn't thinking of the DRM. I was thinking about the poor quality of Apple's music tracks, in the first place. For that xtra $, they may be be DRM-free now, but they're *still* pre-equalized / sampled / tuned for ear buds -- so they smell like padadodo on a real sound system or when compared to a half-decent CD rip. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
