Re: G3 9200 dying?
On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Stewie de Young wrote: There is nothing wrong with these old machines. My 8 yr old daughter uses a black 1996 Directors Edition 5500/180 upgraded to a 5500/250 logicboard( sold only here in Australia and Japan and kinda like the old Mac TV you have there in the States ) with a G3/500 upgrade Sonnet CPU and a Radeon 32mb card and it runs fine with OS9.1 It has Office '98 , Daisy Maths 4, KidsPix deluxe, Me and My Horse and a couple of other programs she uses that I can't recall. She loves it. Im over here on a G3 400MHz BW PowerMac with dual Rage 128's, maxed out RAM, a DL DVD-RW and a 40GB Hard Drive. I have no problems with the machine, it is wonderful for browsing, IRC, music, and mail. Oh, it has Tiger on it. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 BlueWhite
On Nov 29, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: ok the Rev.2 ones have 16MB of video RAM (use system profiler.) Um.BW G3s use a separate graphics card, so there could be any sorts of card in there and thus any amount of VRAM, so that is no guide. For instance, mine has a Radeon 7000 in there, so I can use Quartz Extreme. The stock video cards are 16MB, and most people don't replace them And finally, they can run Tiger. (btw thats what im on, a 400MHz one.) Mine too. And it's a Rev 1. Both types can run 10.4 - all you need is a Firewire DVD drive and XPostFacto to kick off the installer (BW's can't boot off Firewire.) I meant that all the BW's can do this... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple USB Extended Keyboard Extension
Hi Mike, I mean the PCI USB cards can cause problems like booting with the keyboard plugged into them and the system may not be able to use sleep mode. No, I already had a feeling like you said so my Apple stuff like kb and mouse are always in the on-board USB-ports. I recently had big problems after having booted into OS9 after I had installed the latest software via the program updater in OS9. Both my Panther partitions and my Tiger partition didn't boot anymore after starting up with the Alt-key pressed. With my internal Tiger partition I got a log-in screen which I never do as I'm admin. When I filled in my proper name and password I got a denial! I then chose my external Firewire Tiger partition in the startup control panel in OS9 and low and behold, the darn thing started. Then I repaired permissions on all OSX boot partitions and everything is back to normal. Phew! Three perfectly working boot-partitions refused to start. You can never have too much options, do you? I have an MDD with 2 internal Panther partitions and one Tiger part. on different drives and one Tiger on a Firewire drive which I regularly clone to and fro plus two OS9 boot partitions ... Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple USB Extended Keyboard Extension
Hi Mike, I mean the PCI USB cards can cause problems like booting with the keyboard plugged into them and the system may not be able to use sleep mode. No, I already had a feeling like you said so my Apple stuff like kb and mouse are always in the on-board USB-ports. I recently had big problems after having booted into OS9 after I had installed the latest software via the program updater in OS9. Both my Panther partitions and my Tiger partition didn't boot anymore after starting up with the Alt-key pressed. With my internal Tiger partition I got a log-in screen which I never do as I'm admin. When I filled in my proper name and password I got a denial! I then chose my external Firewire Tiger partition in the startup control panel in OS9 and low and behold, the darn thing started. Then I repaired permissions on all OSX boot partitions and everything is back to normal. Phew! Three perfectly working boot-partitions refused to start. You can never have too much options, do you? I have an MDD with 2 internal Panther partitions and one Tiger part. on different drives and one Tiger on a Firewire drive which I regularly clone to and fro plus two OS9 boot partitions ... Regards, Jörg. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Mac Mail
Another Anomaly Every time I attach a jpeg or PDF to mac mail it changes the file size - wether send windows friendly is checked or not. When sending pix to pre-press this causes great embarrasment. I have to use thunderbird for that reason,but multiple mailboxes is not good for me. Cannot see in the prefs anything that stops Mac Mail from enctrypting the attachment. Any ideas welcome ... welcome... Geoff b -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Entourage onMac - identity crisis
Microsoft Entourage had built up a 16 Gb Identities folder in Entourage office 2004. I upgraded to MSO 2008 and it transferred the identity to the new version. None of the mail wants to open. It reccomends a rebuild of the database when i try to re-import this file, but the identity or database will not list as a database in the MSO import dialogue box. The installer of MSO 2008 deleted the older version od MSO - however I always have a backup. To me the identity file of 16 Gb is far too big. When i try to copy the database it reports a corrupt file. and stops copying. How do I get my mail back. This is the only mac I have used entourage on. Is there anyway of disecting the file found in UsersUSERNAME DocumentsMICROSOFT USER DOCSIDENTITIES This runs a Powerbook - 2.3 Ghz DC intel, 250gb hdd and OS X 10.4 9. MSO was 2004 upgraded to MSO 2008 Import identity database fails. Rgds geoff b -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mail
On 30 Nov 2009, at 04:39:18 PST, Geoff Black wrote: Another Anomaly Every time I attach a jpeg or PDF to mac mail it changes the file size - wether send windows friendly is checked or not. When sending pix to pre-press this causes great embarrasment. I have to use thunderbird for that reason,but multiple mailboxes is not good for me. Cannot see in the prefs anything that stops Mac Mail from enctrypting the attachment. Any ideas welcome ... welcome... --- An anomaly indeed. According to Mail Help, When you attach images to a message, Mail displays the total size of the message and all attached images at the bottom of the message window. If your message exceeds the maximum size allowed by your email provider, the message size appears in red, along with the allowed limit (when Mail is able to get that information from the email provider). Are you seeing the adjusted file sizes before the message is sent or is the recipient complaining that the received file is wrong? Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Entourage onMac - identity crisis
On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:49 AM, Geoff Black wrote: It reccomends a rebuild of the database when i try to re-import this file, but the identity or database will not list as a database in the MSO import dialogue box. The installer of MSO 2008 deleted the older version od MSO - however I always have a backup. To me the identity file of 16 Gb is far too big. When i try to copy the database it reports a corrupt file. and stops copying. How do I get my mail back. Let me preface this by saying Entourage Suxrox!...for this precise reason. The whole Identity as a gigunda binary database file requires perfect behavior from every part of the software chain. Perfect...and Microsoft in the same sentence? Can anyone spot the flaw in the reasoning? Your best bet is to go back to MS Office 2004, and hope and pray and shake a rubber chicken at it that it will let you repair/compact that identity, that the Office 2008 installer did not partially convert the identity to the new Entourage format then give up. If it did, you need to back up to a version of that identity before the Office 2008 mucked with it, restore that and use Office 2004 to repair and compact it before re-migrating to 2008. Which would be simple as pie if you had 10.5 and Time Machine :-( Asa general rule, 10.5 (and now 10.6) are *MUST HAVE* updates for intel-based Macs. 10.4 on Intel systems is kludgy. I know this is closing the barn door post horse escape, but for anyone else out there in that situation...note that the $29 10.5-10.6 'upgrade' works perfectly well with 10.4 systems. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mail
On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Geoff Black wrote: Another Anomaly Every time I attach a jpeg or PDF to mac mail it changes the file size - wether send windows friendly is checked or not. When sending pix to pre-press this causes great embarrasment. I have to use thunderbird for that reason,but multiple mailboxes is not good for me. What version of Mail are you using? In addition to Geoff's advice, in Mail 3 (at least) there's a drop down menu at the bottom of the window that appears when you attach or drop in a photo. It defaults to 'Medium Size', but you can select 'Actual Size' from the menu. You do still have to be aware that most ISP's place a limit on the size of individual email messages. This is why printing houses generally maintain FTP servers for people to upload their files. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 9200 dying?
Hello again! Unfortunately the party didn't last and I'm getting artifacts and horizontal lines with the 9200 and FWIW I did Zap the PRAM. This time though the card was much, much cooler than ever since I'm using the slot cooler when I removed it. I've got the ATi Rage 128 stock card in it now. It'll be interesting to see what all my G4 coming in the mail has in it, it's going to be a surprise! :+] Also, thanks for sharing about your G3 uses and enjoyment! This is what it's all about; making use of a useful machine and sharing, that's really awesome! I think part of the reason these G3s last so long and well is because they run so cool and have relatively low power requirements! Too bad Apple discontinued the G3 and RAVE, I can only imagine what a 2.0 GHz G3 or Dual G3 would have been like! Always fun to imagine. RAVE had a lot of hope too, as did Altivec. I wonder how long OpenCL will last ;)? cheers! -Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mail
recipient complaining. Recipient is set to receive files up to 8mb. I am sending a 4mb jpen - ... it arrives at pre=press (recipient) 460kb g On 30 Nov 2009, at 6:01 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 30 Nov 2009, at 04:39:18 PST, Geoff Black wrote: Another Anomaly Every time I attach a jpeg or PDF to mac mail it changes the file size - wether send windows friendly is checked or not. When sending pix to pre-press this causes great embarrasment. I have to use thunderbird for that reason,but multiple mailboxes is not good for me. Cannot see in the prefs anything that stops Mac Mail from enctrypting the attachment. Any ideas welcome ... welcome... --- An anomaly indeed. According to Mail Help, When you attach images to a message, Mail displays the total size of the message and all attached images at the bottom of the message window. If your message exceeds the maximum size allowed by your email provider, the message size appears in red, along with the allowed limit (when Mail is able to get that information from the email provider). Are you seeing the adjusted file sizes before the message is sent or is the recipient complaining that the received file is wrong? Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 9200 dying?
Hello! I'm going to look into some other things with this card tonight when I get home from work. One thing I hope is that I didn't actually damage the card in some way and for some reason I don't think I did, but I'm going to look into some things like the firmware, software reinstall for the card, cleaning more and possibly a clean install of Mac OS 9. Thank you! Cheers! -Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mail
On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Geoff Black wrote: recipient complaining. Recipient is set to receive files up to 8mb. I am sending a 4mb jpen - ... it arrives at pre=press (recipient) 460kb Geoff, You can always ZIP the file in which case nothing can touch the content. I'm not sure why your file is being tampered with although I remember AOL being notorious for resampling graphics attached to emails. Bruce mentions the drop down selector giving the option of Actual Size for your file. You might look into one of the file hosting services especially for files that exceed ISP limits (typically 5-10MB). I recently upgraded my Stuffit license to see what their file hosting service Stuffit Connect was like. So far it seems OK. Service Bureau ftp sites are often a maze of assigned passwords, required pre-registration and time limits. I hate to deal with them. Dale -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Other, unwanted intruders
At 4:56 PM -0500 11/29/2009, Al boone wrote: I really can't figure out if this is a serious conversation or not. Is it possible to end it because it doesn't seem to be going anywhere? just my 2 cents. Works for me. John and I will never agree anyway. :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 BlueWhite
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: ok the Rev.2 ones have 16MB of video RAM (use system profiler.) Um.BW G3s use a separate graphics card, so there could be any sorts of card in there and thus any amount of VRAM, so that is no guide. For instance, mine has a Radeon 7000 in there, so I can use Quartz Extreme. The stock video cards are 16MB, and most people don't replace them That is an absurd generalisation and not a safe guide. And finally, they can run Tiger. (btw thats what im on, a 400MHz one.) Mine too. And it's a Rev 1. Both types can run 10.4 - all you need is a Firewire DVD drive and XPostFacto to kick off the installer (BW's can't boot off Firewire.) I meant that all the BW's can do this... [Shrug] It seemed to me that you were saying that only Rev 2s could. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac Mail
Thank you - thank you - hats the little menu that did the trick. On 30 Nov 2009, at 6:22 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: In addition to Geoff's advice, in Mail 3 (at least) there's a drop down menu at the bottom of the window that appears when you attach So busy checking all the prefs and isp settings... thanx again Geoff b On Nov 30, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Geoff Black wrote: Another Anomaly Every time I attach a jpeg or PDF to mac mail it changes the file size - wether send windows friendly is checked or not. When sending pix to pre-press this causes great embarrasment. I have to use thunderbird for that reason,but multiple mailboxes is not good for me. What version of Mail are you using? In addition to Geoff's advice, in Mail 3 (at least) there's a drop down menu at the bottom of the window that appears when you attach or drop in a photo. It defaults to 'Medium Size', but you can select 'Actual Size' from the menu. You do still have to be aware that most ISP's place a limit on the size of individual email messages. This is why printing houses generally maintain FTP servers for people to upload their files. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
