Re: Upgrade my Ge
For under $50 you could pick up a G4/500MHZ Sonnet processor on ebay. I had one in mine for awhile and it was great. Look on newegg.com for a dvd burner. You can get a DVD/RW DL for about $20. you may have to use patchburn. -Jonas On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.comwrote: thanks ksam 279 I really appreciate all you people are doing to help me. I know a little about my macs but not too much. I could not even begin to know how to upgrade or fix one. Robert Long -- From: kasm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Upgrade my Ge Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:32:54 -0700 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com yes, you have it right. On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Robert Long wrote: Here is what is on my G3 ser. SB913SWCG9D ETHERNET ID *00 50 E4D8 6A* 310 MHZ 512K CACHE 64 MB SDRAM HD CDR I thinkthis chip speed, cache and memory sdram and no dvd right? Robert Long -- From: kasm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Upgrade my Ge Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:24:16 -0700 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Try looking on the back, below the power plugs. There should be a sticker that has two barcodes and says something like 400MHZ/1MB CACHE/64MB SDRAM/6GB HD/DVD-ROM/KB This means that the machine has a 400MHz CPU, 1MB of CPU cache, 64MB of RAM, a 6GB hard drive, a DVD-ROM drive (and a DVD decoder card on the video card, same with DVD-RAM), and i have no idea about the KB. Those are the specs from the factory, and it should help with determining if your machine has a DVD drive. Also, you can flip the drive door down and if theres a DVD logo there, you have a DVD drive. If not, you most likely have a CD-RW drive. On Dec 21, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Mine is just blue side panels and front.I tried a OS 10 4 tiger and it won't read the disk. Robert Long I suspect that you BW is not equipped with a DVD drive. Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G3 all in one monitor bluury
I have a G3 266hz all in one and recently the monitor has started to jump from clear to blurry. Any help or ideas? Arne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
On Dec 21, 6:54 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 9:08 PM, Ross wrote: As regards the QS systems and the MDD, all have PCI-X slots.. PCI-X cards are usually backward compatible with PCI slots, though the actual bandwidth takes a considerable hit. Sorry, Ross. PCI X did not make an appearance until the G5s. And not in the low end 1.6GHz, that had regular PCI slots. Len Typo, Len. I meant to say the systems he referenced all have PCI-X _compatible 32/64 bit PCI_ slots. From the G3 on up, actually. True PCI-X 133MHz 64 bit did not appear until the G5/1.8GHz and faster. That is all to say that a PCI-X card will work in a 32/64 bit PCI slot, so what he is concerned with is NOT a problem. As I said, actual throughput will take a hit, but it works, and is way faster than PATA. The Acard, Firmtek/Seritek, Sonnet (and MacSense SUA-100, which is similar to the Acard 6293M, but SATA I) cards will all work in the systems he cited, i.e., from the G3 BW through the QS and MDD, and in most G5s up to the introduction of the PCI-e models. These cards are all bootable. Only the Acard AEC-6293M supports ATAPI devices on the SATA ports. There is one additional SATA card that will support both HDDs and ATAPI devices, but you cannot install the OS on any HDD attached to the card, nor can you boot from a HDD attached to the card, so I will not mention it by name/model. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
On Dec 21, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Clark Martin wrote: toothgrisle wrote: I'm looking for an PCI SATA controller card. snip I have the SeriTek/1S2 in my GigaBit Ethernet G4. I have the same card in my Digital Audio. Works fine for me in 10.3, . 4 and .5. Bootable with no problems. I have a 1TB and a 500GB drive hanging off of it. Same here in my DA Dual 533, under 10.5.8 from OWC. A little concerned if it should go bad, I'd be out of a system for awhile. I've considered buying one of those PATA (onboard IDE) to/from SATA adapters as a backup. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
I have a couple of points to add to this thread: In my experience with a Sonnet Sata card you can boot both G3 BW and G4 AGP's from it (panther and tiger), BUT in the case of the G3 only if its a simple volume. I tried to boot from a raid0 pair and it didn't work, but it does on a G4. The 32/64 pci slots work fine with PCI-X (not to be confused with PCIe, which is totally different). Also the Sonnet card will work in the 66MHz 32 bit G3 BW video pci slot. Since a 64bit PCI card will work twice as fast as a 32bit one there is a definite advantage to using a PCI-X card even if it's not being used at it max rated speed. I have used an Adaptech Firewire 800 PCI-X card (can't remember the model) in a G4 AGP 64bit PCI slot, which I then connected to an external FW800 sata drive box with two drives in the boxes raid0 configuration (Galaxy Metal Gear Hard Drive Enclosure). I used Carbon Copy Cloner to copy the internal drive to it and found that after booting from it, I didn't notice any significant reduction in usability. For a while I had a driveless Mac at work and a Mac at home and just moved the external drive from one to the other for a seamless workflow :-) Try doing that with a PC. --- On Tue, 12/22/09, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: A little concerned if it should go bad, I'd be out of a system for awhile. I've considered buying one of those PATA (onboard IDE) to/from SATA adapters as a backup. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: I have the same card in my Digital Audio. Works fine for me in 10.3, . 4 and .5. Bootable with no problems. I have a 1TB and a 500GB drive hanging off of it. Same here in my DA Dual 533, under 10.5.8 from OWC. A little concerned if it should go bad, I'd be out of a system for awhile. I've considered buying one of those PATA (onboard IDE) to/from SATA adapters as a backup. Does anyone know if these get around the 128GB barrier when hooked to the onboard ATA? I did not partition my 1TB when I installed it (but back in the day I did partition my 20MB drive on my Plus) and I would hate to have to go back and do that after the fact. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Does anyone know if these get around the 128GB barrier when hooked to the onboard ATA? No they do not. All the adapter does is make the PATA controller think it's a PATA drive, the 128gb limitation is with the controller on the motherboard. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
spaces desktops
Hi All A few day's ago someone asked about different desktop patterns to distinguish which space you're on when using spaces, a real handy item if you're tracking stocks and email at once on your PowerBook. It looked like the topic died out too soon. there must be someone besides myself inerested it this subject:-) John wtmm -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Does anyone know if these get around the 128GB barrier when hooked to the onboard ATA? No they do not. All the adapter does is make the PATA controller think it's a PATA drive, the 128gb limitation is with the controller on the motherboard. I figured as much, but I thought I would ask. Thanks, Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Lost finder and desktop Indo
Hello all. I re-ran the Tiger disc install at the genius bar at the Braintree Apple Store. Not only diid it work but he found all these apps that were unnecessary and yes freed up 27gigs of space WAHOO \Thanks folks and i wont rtun DW any more Sincerely, André Stark President BlackShark Films Inc. 23 Chilton Park Milton, MA 02186 617-206-7061 360-242-7648(f) www.blacksharkfilms.com On Dec 21, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Clark Martin wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 21, 2009, at 2:42 PM, BlackShark Films wrote: Hi All: I Used Disk Warrior (on my MAc G4 notebook) to clean up some disc slowness Don't do that. Disk Warrior does not 'fix some disk slowness'. Disk Warrior is NOT a 'maintenance tool', any more than removing the cylinder head and pistons and reboring the cylinders should be a routine step in auto maintenance. You can do it but the chances of catastrophic failure is vastly higher than with just changing the oil. DiskWarrior should be reserved for those times when you have major directory issues that Disk Utility cannot repair. It is unlikely that Disk Warrior could fix any 'slowness' in any case, as system lags and such are typically caused by issues that DW doesn't even touch. Back in the OS 9 epoch I run various disk utilites regularly (well often if not regular). With OS X I only run Disk Utility's Disk Repair or Permission Repair if there is a specific problem. Only if Disk Repair fails to fix things do I resort to Disk Warrior. I think there have been two cases when Disk Repair didn't fix the problem. In one case Disk Warrior fixed the problem. In the other case DW tried and produced a whole mess of recovered files, most of which were junk. In that case the iBook's disk controller broke and really trashed the drive. and somehow lost all my non MAc apps and desltop screen. I am limited to Safari, calculator and MacMail. If I download something like Quicktime update it goes through but i cannot see it. I cannot use the finder and i cannot get to disk utility to repair disc permissions or anything lke that. The apps appear in the dock but they won't open. It will be sub-optimal, but try running Permissions repair from the OS installer disk. OH, OH, Bruce recommended Permissions Repair. THE END IS NEAR :) It might get you up to the point where things will work again enough to finish the repair. If that doesn't work, you're looking at an ArchiveInstall of the OS. Given the possibility of disk structure corruption I'd seriously consider backup then Nuke and Pave (Re-initializing the disk and a full install). -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Lost finder and desktop Indo
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:45 PM, BlackShark Films an...@blacksharkfilms.com wrote: Hello all. I re-ran the Tiger disc install at the genius bar at the Braintree Apple Store. Not only did it work but he found all these apps that were unnecessary and yes freed up 27gigs of space WAHOO Unnecessary?? Could you expand on that a tad more? How were they unnecessary? Time limited trials that had all expired? Apps no longer supported in your version of OSX/Tiger? Y2K utilities? No real reason for asking other than I'm just curious. 27 GB is a fair piece of storage no matter how youy count it. ;-) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Large format printer
Does anyone know of a large format LASERJET printer? I have a friend who wants to replace her Epson 2000 with a Laserjet equivalent and I have never heard of such a beast. Any help would be appreciated. She's wealthy so cost probably doesn't matter. --- The first time Microsoft produces something that doesn't suck will be when they start making vacuum cleaners --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
On Dec 22, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: Does anyone know of a large format LASERJET printer? I have a friend who wants to replace her Epson 2000 with a Laserjet equivalent and I have never heard of such a beast. Any help would be appreciated. She's wealthy so cost probably doesn't matter. How large? The largest lasers I know of are for 11 x 17, the largest standard cut sheet paper size. Last ones I know about are the 4MV, but I know newer ones exist. Does she need CADD size, 24 x 36 or even 36 x 48? A quick google brings up this one, I am sure there are others. http://usa.kyoceramita.com/americas/jsp/Kyocera/productdetails.jsp? pid=19250cid=10574 Which is a laser and will print up to 36 x 48. The problem is the drivers. This one only lists windows drivers. My guess is that most monochrome large format jobs are CADD, and the defacto CADD standard is AutoCADD, not on the Mac for a number of years. Is MacPlot still around? You may want to check with the Mac CADD vendors to see what they might recommend. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
On Dec 22, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: Does anyone know of a large format LASERJET printer? I have a friend who wants to replace her Epson 2000 with a Laserjet equivalent and I have never heard of such a beast. Any help would be appreciated. She's wealthy so cost probably doesn't matter. There are a number of laser printers that do up to tabloid size printing. http://www.printershowcase.com/#11x17 Of these the most reliable are probably the Xerox Phaser wax printers.Dan's got a lot of experience with those IIRC. Depending on the 'cost doesn't matter' thing, we have a nice Canon Color Network copier/printer that does up to 11 x 17 full bleed, but that's a $50K printer, I think...we're just leasing it. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
On 12/22/09 2:25 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Spew into the cybertrough: Depending on the 'cost doesn't matter' thing, we have a nice Canon Color Network copier/printer that does up to 11 x 17 full bleed, but that's a $50K printer, I think...we're just leasing it. I think 10k is about the limit. I didn't think there was a LaserJet option in that wide of a format. Even the ones I am seeing in your posts are ink based. --- The first time Microsoft produces something that doesn't suck will be when they start making vacuum cleaners --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
On Dec 22, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Does anyone know if these get around the 128GB barrier when hooked to the onboard ATA? No they do not. All the adapter does is make the PATA controller think it's a PATA drive, the 128gb limitation is with the controller on the motherboard. I figured as much, but I thought I would ask. Thanks, Len Thanks for the heads up ... would have to move the adapter and large SATA drive to my QS 2002, or do the LBA48 (sp?) Firmware mod discussed elsewhere, on the DA. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
Xerox 7360... Best one you can buy... A3 Duplex printer... Consider it as top choice... She can print even magazine with it. 2009/12/22 Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net Does anyone know of a large format LASERJET printer? I have a friend who wants to replace her Epson 2000 with a Laserjet equivalent and I have never heard of such a beast. Any help would be appreciated. She's wealthy so cost probably doesn't matter. --- The first time Microsoft produces something that doesn't suck will be when they start making vacuum cleaners --- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Baha Ata -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
Greetings! I use an HP color inkjet CP1700 via an ethernet network. Jobs are porcessed with HO's RIP software. Sheet sixe is 13 x 19 so I can bleed 11 x 17s. Excellent machine. it handles all paper stocks from 20 lb to highcloss photo paper. I have seen 13 x 19 photo paper in my l\ocal Staples. Gil -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
Fuji makes a thing called a Pictroproof or Pictroprint. Dunno if that is what you might want. It is geared more towards images not text. 12x18 It would be at the high end of your price range or higher. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
On 12/22/09 4:29 PM, Kyle Hansen of pi...@speakeasy.net sent Does anyone know of a large format LASERJET printer? I have a friend who wants to replace her Epson 2000 with a Laserjet equivalent and I have never heard of such a beast. Any help would be appreciated. She's wealthy so cost probably doesn't matter. Hi Kyle, We use an HP LJ 5200 - GB-networkable, mucho RAM, hard drive, 3 trays including the requested 11x17 - hardy and easy as pie to link up with Macs. My 2¢ Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
On Dec 22, 3:15 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Does anyone know if these get around the 128GB barrier when hooked to the onboard ATA? No they do not. All the adapter does is make the PATA controller think it's a PATA drive, the 128gb limitation is with the controller on the motherboard. I figured as much, but I thought I would ask. Thanks, Len Thanks for the heads up ... would have to move the adapter and large SATA drive to my QS 2002, or do the LBA48 (sp?) Firmware mod discussed elsewhere, on the DA. If you are installing a SATA PCI or PCI-X controller card to which you are attaching 128GB SATA drives, you can partition and use the entire drive as a single volume, or multiple 128GB drives in a RAID 0/1 volume. These add-in SATA cards all support 128GB drives, are not affected by the limitations of the built-in, on main logic board, PATA controller, or firmware limitations. All current add-in PATA PCI/PCI-X controller cards also support drives 128GB in any partition scheme, as well as software RAID 0/1 volumes. The limitations of the main logic board built-in PATA/IDE controller do not affect PCI/PCI-X controllers cards. The limitations of the main logic board built-in PATA/IDE controller can be avoided by use of an Open Firmware hack that enables large drive support. The only drawback to using the large drive hack is if the PRAM/NVRAM is reset, the on-board IDE controller limitations on drive and partition size are reinstated until the hack script is run again. This is true on all Macs prior to the 2002 QS, which supports 128GB drives natively, as do all Mac systems since. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Help diagnosing a hardware failure...lots of possibly helpful info.
My home Mac has been running rock solid for months with only rare software crashes. My system is a DA with the following: OWC Dual 1.2GHz processor 1GB (2 matching 512MB sticks) Radeon 9600 pro with the pin traces cut Firmtek SATA card with 1TB (boot volume) and 500GB 120GB Seagate on main ata All drives have a bootable OS 10.5 install Running 10.5.8 (or whatever the latest is) with all updates. This morning got the 4 language kernel panic message to restart. Restarted and all was well Came home and tried to start it up and it would not get very far. I have tried with one stick of ram (tried both) in various slots. I have pulled the pram and plug for a few minutes. Hit the cuda with pram in. None of the above helped. Here are the error messages and states that came up on restarts. There does not appear to be a pattern to how they pop up. They are almost in order of how they appeared. Separating each instance with a blank line. System Failure cpu=1 code 0001 Corrupt stack Backtrace: Backtrace terminated Backtrace not mapped or invalid Bunch of text that ends with We are Hanging here. Includes a message saying invalid pmap. Echoing startup chime. Hear about 4 of them Grey Apple with no spinning daisy-hangs here for a couple of minutes. Four language You need to restart... On restart get a perpetual spinning daisy for a couple of minutes. Disconnect the STA drives to force ata drive to boot. get the following System Failure cpu=0 code 0001 BSD Process corresponding to current thread kernel_task Panic CPU 0 (Caller 0x000DXE6C) System failure cpu=0 on restart- Grey Apple with no spinning daisy Reconnected SATA drives and hold option key to choose startup drive. See 2 of the 3 drives with a restart arrow on the left and an arrow to the right (for more drives). Mouse is a frozen watch (old OS 9 looking) and does not move. No keyboard response either. Any ideas? Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
Ross wrote: On Dec 22, 3:15 pm, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Does anyone know if these get around the 128GB barrier when hooked to the onboard ATA? No they do not. All the adapter does is make the PATA controller think it's a PATA drive, the 128gb limitation is with the controller on the motherboard. I figured as much, but I thought I would ask. Thanks, Len Thanks for the heads up ... would have to move the adapter and large SATA drive to my QS 2002, or do the LBA48 (sp?) Firmware mod discussed elsewhere, on the DA. If you are installing a SATA PCI or PCI-X controller card to which you are attaching 128GB SATA drives, you can partition and use the entire drive as a single volume, or multiple 128GB drives in a RAID 0/1 volume. These add-in SATA cards all support 128GB drives, are not affected by the limitations of the built-in, on main logic board, PATA controller, or firmware limitations. The question involved a SATA drive with a PATA - SATA adapter connected to the on board PATA controller. In this case the 128Gb limitation does still apply. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
How to configure an airport base station snow?
Hi all! I just picked up an Airport Base Station for $7. It is all white except for the graphite apple. I've never used one before. How do you configure it? Reset it? Thanks!! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help diagnosing a hardware failure...lots of possibly helpful info.
On Dec 22, 9:18 pm, Len Gerstel lgers...@gmail.com wrote: My home Mac has been running rock solid for months with only rare software crashes. My system is a DA with the following: OWC Dual 1.2GHz processor 1GB (2 matching 512MB sticks) Radeon 9600 pro with the pin traces cut Firmtek SATA card with 1TB (boot volume) and 500GB 120GB Seagate on main ata All drives have a bootable OS 10.5 install Running 10.5.8 (or whatever the latest is) with all updates. This morning got the 4 language kernel panic message to restart. Restarted and all was well Came home and tried to start it up and it would not get very far. I have tried with one stick of ram (tried both) in various slots. I have pulled the pram and plug for a few minutes. Hit the cuda with pram in. None of the above helped. Here are the error messages and states that came up on restarts. There does not appear to be a pattern to how they pop up. They are almost in order of how they appeared. Separating each instance with a blank line. snip Any ideas? OK, Just tried starting after pulling the pram and plug for 15 minutes. Got the 4 language restart, Then the kernel panic with cpu faulure, then finally a grey apple with the spinning daisy. Went out to dig out what the plows just covered my driveway with. After 10 minutes, still had the spinning daisy. Forced a restart and got a grey apple with no spinning daisy. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help diagnosing a hardware failure...lots of possibly helpful info.
At 6:48 PM -0800 12/22/2009, Len Gerstel wrote: OK, Just tried starting after pulling the pram and plug for 15 minutes. [etc] Ahm assumin it still bongs? Strip the machine - one DIMM, one HD, and just KVM. See if it will run on that much. Boot on an external then after it panics, put that drive on another machine so you can get to the panic and system logs See if it will boot and continue to run on an OS DVD. Try a AHT disc. http://www.info.apple.com/support/aht.html HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to configure an airport base station snow?
On 22 Dec 2009, at 18:40:44 PST, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Hi all! I just picked up an Airport Base Station for $7. It is all white except for the graphite apple. I've never used one before. How do you configure it? Reset it? Thanks!! -Jona - You need the Airport software on your Mac. Not sure about the Snow but my old Graphite requires you to connect via wire for the initial setup. After that, you can administer the Airport via wireless. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help diagnosing a hardware failure...lots of possibly helpful info.
On Dec 22, 10:01 pm, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 6:48 PM -0800 12/22/2009, Len Gerstel wrote: OK, Just tried starting after pulling the pram and plug for 15 minutes. [etc] Ahm assumin it still bongs? Yep, still bongs. No echo bongs, just a single/ Strip the machine - one DIMM, one HD, and just KVM. See if it will run on that much. Got it there and tried both dimms in different slots. Left the Firmtek SATA card in, though, but disconnected the drive cables. Boot on an external then after it panics, put that drive on another machine so you can get to the panic and system logs Will try that tomorrow, no bootable externals at home. See if it will boot and continue to run on an OS DVD. Tried an retail 10.5. did not boot, but do not remember if the drive is bootable. Try a AHT disc. http://www.info.apple.com/support/aht.html Tomorrow, no other Mac at home to burn a dmg. HTH, - Dan. Thanks, Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help diagnosing a hardware failure...lots of possibly helpful info.
Len, do you by any chance have the original CPU from that machine to swap back in? I know my MDD started acting almost exactly like that when my CPU was dying. Just a thought. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to configure an airport base station snow?
Were would I be able to find that software for download? Thanks! -Jonas On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Ken Daggett kadagg...@verizon.net wrote: On 22 Dec 2009, at 18:40:44 PST, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Hi all! I just picked up an Airport Base Station for $7. It is all white except for the graphite apple. I've never used one before. How do you configure it? Reset it? Thanks!! -Jona - You need the Airport software on your Mac. Not sure about the Snow but my old Graphite requires you to connect via wire for the initial setup. After that, you can administer the Airport via wireless. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 all in one monitor bluury
It might be the video card or the slot on the motherboard it plugs into??? One way to rule out the monitor is to hook it up to another computer... I went through something like this on my daughters PC, I have a parts computer for hers and swapped out the video card and the spare one worked for only about an hr then it happened again... So I found a gamers card on ebay that plugged in a different slot on the board and that fixed her problem!!! It was a gamble on my part but the new card was cheap!!! Her computer is 10yrs old... -Original Message- From: captarne arnechristian...@gmail.com Sent: Dec 22, 2009 9:05 AM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: G3 all in one monitor bluury I have a G3 266hz all in one and recently the monitor has started to jump from clear to blurry. Any help or ideas? Arne -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help diagnosing a hardware failure...lots of possibly helpful info.
Len Gerstel wrote: My home Mac has been running rock solid for months with only rare software crashes. My system is a DA with the following: OWC Dual 1.2GHz processor 1GB (2 matching 512MB sticks) Radeon 9600 pro with the pin traces cut Firmtek SATA card with 1TB (boot volume) and 500GB 120GB Seagate on main ata All drives have a bootable OS 10.5 install Running 10.5.8 (or whatever the latest is) with all updates. This morning got the 4 language kernel panic message to restart. Restarted and all was well Disconnect the STA drives to force ata drive to boot. get the following System Failure cpu=0 code 0001 BSD Process corresponding to current thread kernel_task Panic CPU 0 (Caller 0x000DXE6C) System failure cpu=0 on restart- Grey Apple with no spinning daisy Reconnected SATA drives and hold option key to choose startup drive. See 2 of the 3 drives with a restart arrow on the left and an arrow to the right (for more drives). Mouse is a frozen watch (old OS 9 looking) and does not move. No keyboard response either. That it hung with two different drives and in the boot select screen implies it's NOT the software. Possible problems, in likely order, bad memory, corrupt NVRAM or PRAM, wonky devices on any drive bus (ATA, SATA,...), wonky PCI cards, motherboard gone BAD, sick processor card. Try resetting NVRAM (and thus PRAM). Pull first one then the other RAM cards, booting after each. In general start disconnecting things, working your way toward the motherboard and then boot to test it. I would boot with the option key held down each time. It seems to be the shortest route to the kernel panic and it doesn't involve the HD booting so it's safe to restart at that point if needed. Keep debugging like this until you get to the point where you can disconnect one item and only one item and eliminate the problem. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to configure an airport base station snow?
On 22 Dec 2009, at 19:21:56 PST, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Were would I be able to find that software for download? Thanks! -Jonas -- Check your Applications folder/Utilities folder for AirPort Admin Utility.app. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple DVI Adapter query
Greetings all. I have a question for those who have dealt with an adapter from Apple that is being sold these days. We purchased a new Mac Pro and MacBook Pro recently. Both were to have been provided with a Mini Display Port to DVI adapter (not the former mini-DVI to DVI adapter) - they were, but the DVI end was unlike any DVI configuration I had seen (and indeed, no DVI monitor that we own can connect to this adapter). I called Apple, and they were, citing possible production issues, willing to send me two new ones, which they did. Darned if the new ones didn't have the same questionable design. I go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface for a visual of various DVI grid arrangements - all our adapters look like none of these (on the left side of the female face is supposed to be at the very least a slot - ours has nothing, nada, zip). So, my question: for those of you who have such an adapter, what kind of DVI adapter should I be expecting? Should I contact Apple *again* and ask for new ones (I'm inclined to do so, but want to know what type of adapter to cite). Thank you much; Happy Holidays to all, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help diagnosing a hardware failure...lots of possibly helpful info.
On Dec 22, 10:14 pm, Chance Reecher cnrtechh...@gmail.com wrote: Len, do you by any chance have the original CPU from that machine to swap back in? I know my MDD started acting almost exactly like that when my CPU was dying. Just a thought. Nope, but I may be hitting the swap list for one. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 all in one monitor bluury
On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: It might be the video card or the slot on the motherboard it plugs into??? One way to rule out the monitor is to hook it up to another computer... I went through something like this on my daughters PC, I have a parts computer for hers and swapped out the video card and the spare one worked for only about an hr then it happened again... So I found a gamers card on ebay that plugged in a different slot on the board and that fixed her problem!!! It was a gamble on my part but the new card was cheap!!! Her computer is 10yrs old... Video card? Plug an internal display into another computer? o.O I have one of these that a made a youtube video of and someone commented that they fixed theirs by pulling it apart and cleaning it (just the computer tray.) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrade my Ge
On Dec 21, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Robert Long wrote: thanks ksam 279 Kasm279 . -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help diagnosing a hardware failure...lots of possibly helpful info.
On Dec 22, 10:33 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: Len Gerstel wrote: My home Mac has been running rock solid for months with only rare software crashes. My system is a DA with the following: snip That it hung with two different drives and in the boot select screen implies it's NOT the software. My thoughts, unfortunately Possible problems, in likely order, bad memory, 2 matching sticks and tried swapping them around with no help. corrupt NVRAM or PRAM, wonky devices on any drive bus (ATA, SATA,...), wonky PCI cards, motherboard gone BAD, sick processor card. Try resetting NVRAM (and thus PRAM). Reset the NVRAM and got the following: On automatic restart, it immediately went to the 4 language restart and then shut down. Restarted again. This time came up with a 680 x 480 screen LARGE grey apple, but no daisy. Twice. Boot into open firmware and get the following: WARNING MSSCR Values mismatch Googling turns up nothing on msscr Date was reset to 1904, so the resetting worked. In general start disconnecting things, working your way toward the motherboard and then boot to test it. I would boot with the option key held down each time. It seems to be the shortest route to the kernel panic and it doesn't involve the HD booting so it's safe to restart at that point if needed. Keep debugging like this until you get to the point where you can disconnect one item and only one item and eliminate the problem. Will try stripping down the system further tomorrow. Will also try booting off a firewire drive just with all internals disconnected, just in case. Thanks all, Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 all in one monitor bluury
If you can find the parts, the video cards in those machines are replaceable. By swapping in a different card from another AIO you could have a better idea of whether its the motherboard, card, or perhaps the monitor that is bad? Note that there are two versions of those video cards, one that has audio in/out ports and a simpler one that didn't have those ports. Since the video connector that goes to the built-in monitor in the AIO is not the standard 15 pin connector used for external monitors on other macs of that era, it will be more difficult if not impossible to try an external monitor (neither card has an external 15 pin video out port to attach an external monitor). The internal video cable uses a different port/connector that doesn't fit the external monitors...so you would have to adapt the connectors somehow to try an external monitor? ~~~ On 12/22/09 11:08 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: It might be the video card or the slot on the motherboard it plugs into??? One way to rule out the monitor is to hook it up to another computer... I went through something like this on my daughters PC, I have a parts computer for hers and swapped out the video card and the spare one worked for only about an hr then it happened again... So I found a gamers card on ebay that plugged in a different slot on the board and that fixed her problem!!! It was a gamble on my part but the new card was cheap!!! Her computer is 10yrs old... Video card? Plug an internal display into another computer? o.O I have one of these that a made a youtube video of and someone commented that they fixed theirs by pulling it apart and cleaning it (just the computer tray.) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 all in one monitor bluury
On Dec 22, 2009, at 9:52 PM, Jack Countryman wrote: If you can find the parts, the video cards in those machines are replaceable. By swapping in a different card from another AIO you could have a better idea of whether its the motherboard, card, or perhaps the monitor that is bad? Note that there are two versions of those video cards, one that has audio in/out ports and a simpler one that didn't have those ports. By the way those are not the video cards, those are called Personality Cards. The beige G3's used integrated video chips. Since the video connector that goes to the built-in monitor in the AIO is not the standard 15 pin connector used for external monitors on other macs of that era, it will be more difficult if not impossible to try an external monitor (neither card has an external 15 pin video out port to attach an external monitor) There is a video out plug on the back of the AIO . The internal video cable uses a different port/connector that doesn't fit the external monitors...so you would have to adapt the connectors somehow to try an external monitor? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI _ SATA Controller cards
On Dec 22, 6:19 pm, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: The question involved a SATA drive with a PATA - SATA adapter connected to the on board PATA controller. In this case the 128Gb limitation does still apply. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway My post got cut off, but there was more than sufficient info in my post re PATA to SATA adapters for you or anyone else to understand that there is no limitation on PCI/PCI-X SATA or PATA controller cards as to total capacity, or partition size. There is also sufficient present info to inform the reader that PATA-- SATA adapters can work with Open Firmware hacks to enable 48bit LBA mode, which eliminates the 128GB capacity and partition size limitations of the on-board main logic board PCI/IDE controller and firmware. I also pointed out that if the PRAM was reset, the hack script would need to be run again to enable LBA48. Peter Haas has provided open firmware workarounds in previous posts to this group, one of which I'll quote here: [begin quote] The known-to-work patches are: ATA4 (DA and early QS HD channel) #! /bin/bash - if kextstat -lb com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA | grep -F -q KeyLargoATA ! ioreg -rStp IODeviceTree -n ata-4 -w0 | grep -F -q lba-48 thenread -rd $'\000' nvram nvramrc `nvram nvramrc 2-` if sudo nvram 'use-nvramrc?=true' \ nvramrc='dev mac-io/ata-4 0 0 lba-48 property device-end' $nvramrc then echo '48-bit LBA support will be enabled on the next reboot.'; fi fi ATA3 (DA and early QS optical channel, and some other HD channels) #! /bin/bash - if kextstat -lb com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA | grep -F -q KeyLargoATA ! ioreg -rStp IODeviceTree -n ata-3 -w0 | grep -F -q lba-48 thenread -rd $'\000' nvram nvramrc `nvram nvramrc 2-` if sudo nvram 'use-nvramrc?=true' \ nvramrc='dev mac-io/ata-3 0 0 lba-48 property device-end' $nvramrc then echo '48-bit LBA support will be enabled on the next reboot.'; fi fi ATA2 (some other HD channels and some other optical channels) #! /bin/bash - if kextstat -lb com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA | grep -F -q KeyLargoATA ! ioreg -rStp IODeviceTree -n ata-2 -w0 | grep -F -q lba-48 thenread -rd $'\000' nvram nvramrc `nvram nvramrc 2-` if sudo nvram 'use-nvramrc?=true' \ nvramrc='dev mac-io/ata-2 0 0 lba-48 property device-end' $nvramrc then echo '48-bit LBA support will be enabled on the next reboot.'; fi fi [end quote] Or this from a user on another forum: [begin quote] You should now be at the Open Firmware prompt. Note that this is NOT the BASH prompt, so don’t try anything here. * Type in the following, exactly. Please note that the Underscore “_” is used to indicate a space. nvedit dev_hd dev_..___lba-48_property device-end * Press Ctrl+C to exit from nvedit. nvstore setenv_use-nvramrc?_true reset-all [end quote] I recommend following the advice given here: http://tinyurl.com/ydbsc36 and to download the automated script file here: http://www.box.net/shared/ift1khpq8s -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to configure an airport base station snow?
On Tuesday, December 22, 2009, Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: Were would I be able to find that software for download? Thanks! http://support.apple.com/kb/DL839 -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Large format printer
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Kyle Hansen pi...@speakeasy.net wrote: Does anyone know of a large format LASERJET printer? I have a friend who wants to replace her Epson 2000 with a Laserjet equivalent and I have never heard of such a beast. Any help would be appreciated. She's wealthy so cost probably doesn't matter. I looked up the specs on the epson and I don't think there is a Laserjet equivalent? It really depends on what she is wanting to print. The Epson prints 13 inches by 44 inches and I don't know a laser that does that (in color). Also the Epson uses pigmented inks which are much more finely milled than laser toner. So for quality photos that last a long time the Epsons are better. I suspect, for archival colors, that the Xerox thermal wax printers might come close. However I don't think any of those come in 13 inch wide. Most people who use the Epsons are printing photos and using the 13 inch wide feature of the printers. There are good laser printers that do a good job on photos but I don't know of any larger than 11X17. What is she trying to print? Pax -- Paxton Hoag Astoria, OR USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
