Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
I always advise people to avoid the Quicksilver. They seem to be the ones that suffer dead power supply problem. Particularly the 733mhz like I have which is now a door stop. Just go on ebay and see how many you find described as: parts only or won't power up or powers up then shuts down I'd go for the MDD every time, but if you have to get the QS, go for 900mhz and above. just my 2p worth. On Jan 20, 2010, at 01:18 am, Jeffrey Engle wrote: After adding up the dollars to put this MDD together, I'm wondering what the best quicksilver would be? I'm looking at 800mhz systems on ebay for around 100 dollars? sure they're only 800mhz single processor systems, but I can upgrade it later can't I? I just need a really good tiger/os9 machine for odds and ends what's the best q-silver to get? Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Mac OS 10.3 to 10.4 or 10.5?
At 4:03 PM -0500 1/15/10, Dana Collins wrote: 2) I use Tiger 10.4.11 on my *G3* 400MHz Pismo, and it runs flawlessly (inc. Safari 4.0.4), really an excellent OS, and my top vote. My G3 400 MHz Pismo also runs flawlessly on Tiger 10.4.11. It provides a compatible platform for visiting grandchildren to do their homework when visiting. - Maretta -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Subscribe
Subscribe to what? Sending blank emails? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Thinking about a quicksilver... Date:Mittwoch 20 Januar 2010N From:Christopher Icha the_i...@yahoo.co.uk To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I always advise people to avoid the Quicksilver. They seem to be the ones that suffer dead power supply problem. Particularly the 733mhz like I have which is now a door stop. Just go on ebay and see how many you find described as: parts only or won't power up or powers up then shuts down I've heard that before a lot from different sources. But why is that? I recieved a QS 2001 733 a year ago or so and upgraded it to be a Dual-800 with no problem at all. The system board is okay as is the power supply. At least until now. It was running regularly a few hours a day (with days off inbetween) for years, before that it was in an office where it was propably running all day during working hours. After such a long time I cannot imagine that there is a hidden weakness somewhere. IMHO if it hasn't broken down by now, it never will - at least not for the typical QuickSilver problem. Just for the record: mine was made in Cork, Ireland. That's where the european Macs are assembled... Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
Mine is 2002 with a 933 MHz and some added memory. It works well. I am not an expert though. -- From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:29 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thinking about a quicksilver... On 1/19/10 8:18 PM, Jeffrey Engle of macgu...@gmail.com sent After adding up the dollars to put this MDD together, I'm wondering what the best quicksilver would be? I'm looking at 800mhz systems on ebay for around 100 dollars? sure they're only 800mhz single processor systems, but I can upgrade it later can't I? I just need a really good tiger/os9 machine for odds and ends what's the best q- silver to get? Jeff Hello Jeff, This is easy - shoot for any of the 2002 models (800MHz, 933MHz, or the best of them all, 1GHz DP). The 2002 models introduced native, on-the-board large drive support. Conversely, avoid the initial QS model, the 733Mz unit of 2001 - this was actually slower than the 733MHz Dig. Audio because it dropped the L3 cache on the CPU. HTH, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
On Jan 20, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: I've heard that before a lot from different sources. But why is that? I recieved a QS 2001 733 a year ago or so and upgraded it to be a Dual-800 with no problem at all. The system board is okay as is the power supply. At least until now. It was running regularly a few hours a day (with days off inbetween) for years, before that it was in an office where it was propably running all day during working hours. After such a long time I cannot imagine that there is a hidden weakness somewhere. IMHO if it hasn't broken down by now, it never will - at least not for the typical QuickSilver problem. A professor here bought one new in 2002 or so, used it daily for 8-10 hours, and then turned it off and stuck it in a corner of his office when he got a new iMac about six months ago. Never had a problem with it. Last month he decided he would replace his crappy old PC at home with the QS, so he asked me to make sure it was up to date and to install the new version of Office on it. Deader'n a doornail. After testing it was the power supply, which had simply died just sitting there for a few months. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
I have 3 quicksilver door stops I would be happy to sell, up to and including a 2002 dual 1Ghz. Recently I purchased a MDD dual 1.42 Ghz on ebay and it performs like a dream. I never nothing but problems with the quicksilvers and I maxed out the ram, hard drives and the fastest video card, a 6200. I only paid $255 plus shipping for the MDD. Wayne On Jan 19, 7:18 pm, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: After adding up the dollars to put this MDD together, I'm wondering what the best quicksilver would be? I'm looking at 800mhz systems on ebay for around 100 dollars? sure they're only 800mhz single processor systems, but I can upgrade it later can't I? I just need a really good tiger/os9 machine for odds and ends what's the best q- silver to get? Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
I always advise people to avoid the Quicksilver. They seem to be the ones that suffer dead power supply problem. Particularly the 733mhz like I have which is now a door stop. Just go on ebay and see how many you find described as: parts only or won't power up or powers up then shuts down never heard that one, we've had two 733s at work, they were both used constantly (one was a file server from the start) Neither have stopped working, now they both have 1.8GHz processors(2-3years now IIRC) one is at work and the other is my current home computer (that one is running 4 drives, two video cards, USB2 card and an ATA/133 card.) I've had loads more issues with MDD powersupplies than QSs. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
mlitwin i just wanted to chime in and say i agree apple lost its appeal to me when it went intel i have a saing the last real mac os was leopard cause it runs on ppc On Jan 20, 2010, at 12:33 PM, mlitwin3797 wrote: In defense of the Quicksilver ,mine is great. I had a 933 MHz put in it and extra memory. I purchased those on Ebay. It has Leopard 5 on it. I paid $65 for it originally and it came with Leopard. Complete with upgrades ,it cost about $200 ,including labor fees. I can't tell you how the guy installed Leopard. Leopard is a little slow but ok. I am retired. I consider this my chance to get Leopard without all the expense. It so far has taken all of the updates with no problem. Besides that ,I consider that Apple lost some of it's appeal when it went to Intel. I already have a good Windows computer with Intel. This is just my 2 cents though. -- From: Christopher Icha the_i...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:07 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thinking about a quicksilver... I always advise people to avoid the Quicksilver. They seem to be the ones that suffer dead power supply problem. Particularly the 733mhz like I have which is now a door stop. Just go on ebay and see how many you find described as: parts only or won't power up or powers up then shuts down I'd go for the MDD every time, but if you have to get the QS, go for 900mhz and above. just my 2p worth. On Jan 20, 2010, at 01:18 am, Jeffrey Engle wrote: After adding up the dollars to put this MDD together, I'm wondering what the best quicksilver would be? I'm looking at 800mhz systems on ebay for around 100 dollars? sure they're only 800mhz single processor systems, but I can upgrade it later can't I? I just need a really good tiger/os9 machine for odds and ends what's the best q-silver to get? Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 analog audio-in Q
On 20 Jan 2010, at 11:13:43 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote: Does this take a line level or mic level input? Someone here wants to use Skype with their G5 tower...I know that Apple's old microphone with the extra long plug does not work as it does not fit. -- Macs for some time have required a powered input for sound in. To use a microphone, you will need to have a USB one. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
Down load Mactracker and it will show you a picture. Mactracker is shareware and an excellent reference On Jan 19, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
I don't know much about Quicksilvers,only my own whish is a desktop. Did they make quicksilver's in a laptop? -- From: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:20 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thinking about a quicksilver... -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Thinking about a quicksilver... Date:Mittwoch 20 Januar 2010N From:Christopher Icha the_i...@yahoo.co.uk To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I always advise people to avoid the Quicksilver. They seem to be the ones that suffer dead power supply problem. Particularly the 733mhz like I have which is now a door stop. Just go on ebay and see how many you find described as: parts only or won't power up or powers up then shuts down I've heard that before a lot from different sources. But why is that? I recieved a QS 2001 733 a year ago or so and upgraded it to be a Dual-800 with no problem at all. The system board is okay as is the power supply. At least until now. It was running regularly a few hours a day (with days off inbetween) for years, before that it was in an office where it was propably running all day during working hours. After such a long time I cannot imagine that there is a hidden weakness somewhere. IMHO if it hasn't broken down by now, it never will - at least not for the typical QuickSilver problem. Just for the record: mine was made in Cork, Ireland. That's where the european Macs are assembled... Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:47 PM, mlitwin3797 wrote: I don't know much about Quicksilvers,only my own whish is a desktop. Did they make quicksilver's in a laptop? No. Quicksilver is the code name for a particular line of Apple PowerMac G4-based desktop systems. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
OT iMac advice needed
the iMac list isn't responding soI am asking for help offlist here. I put a DVD into my new-used Blueberry. ( I know, I know it is a CD drive I just wanted to make sure) all the usual tricks wont eject it. I cannot find the usual pinhole. Also does anyone know if A DVD drive from the indigo is an easy swap? Thanks all, Flux -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT iMac advice needed
On Jan 20, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: the iMac list isn't responding soI am asking for help offlist here. I put a DVD into my new-used Blueberry. ( I know, I know it is a CD drive I just wanted to make sure) all the usual tricks wont eject it. I cannot find the usual pinhole. Also does anyone know if A DVD drive from the indigo is an easy swap? The manual eject button for the slotload DVD/CD/CDRW drive is on the far right of the slot. Or you can reboot and hold down the keyboard eject key and/or the mouse button. All three should work. All CD/DVD/CDRW drives in all G3 slotload iMacs (350-700 MHz) are interchangeable. If all else fails, you can remove the optical drive and remove the top to gain access. I've written about how to do this in past iMac list posts. Good luck! -- Jim Scott-- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT iMac advice needed
Thanks Jim! On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: The manual eject button for the slotload DVD/CD/CDRW drive is on the far right of the slot. Or you can reboot and hold down the keyboard eject key and/or the mouse button. All three should work. All CD/DVD/CDRW drives in all G3 slotload iMacs (350-700 MHz) are interchangeable. If all else fails, you can remove the optical drive and remove the top to gain access. I've written about how to do this in past iMac list posts. Good luck! -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT iMac advice needed
On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Jim Scott wrote: The manual eject button for the slotload DVD/CD/CDRW drive is on the far right of the slot. Or you can reboot and hold down the keyboard eject key and/or the mouse button. All three should work. I didn't know these had manual buttons. I would like to add that you can also use two credit cards to 'grab' the disc and pull it out. (look on youtube for CD stuck in slot load drive or something like that...) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT iMac advice needed
On Jan 20, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Jim Scott wrote: The manual eject button for the slotload DVD/CD/CDRW drive is on the far right of the slot. Or you can reboot and hold down the keyboard eject key and/or the mouse button. All three should work. I didn't know these had manual buttons. I would like to add that you can also use two credit cards to 'grab' the disc and pull it out. (look on youtube for CD stuck in slot load drive or something like that...) Now that's my kinda fix:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT iMac advice needed
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Jim Scott wrote: The manual eject button for the slotload DVD/CD/CDRW drive is on the far right of the slot. Or you can reboot and hold down the keyboard eject key and/or the mouse button. All three should work. I didn't know these had manual buttons. I would like to add that you can also use two credit cards to 'grab' the disc and pull it out. (look on youtube for CD stuck in slot load drive or something like that...) Thanks, I may have to use that. The internal eject is not working. I'm not ready to disassemble the unit quite yet. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
